OKC Energy FC

[Jersey Boss]

According to the link, it says if its equipped for soccer. I was surprise that UCO's Chad Richison Stadium was not equipped for soccer. Each stadium says whether or not its equipped for soccer. Link: https://stadiumconnection.com/ok/reg...x.php?region=3

Fwiw the varsity soccer clubs of NHS play at a soccer complex a few miles from the campus. North also has a field of their own. There is no soccer being played at The Harve

[Laramie]

Fwiw the varsity soccer clubs of NHS play at a soccer complex a few miles from the campus. North also has a field of their own. There is no soccer being played at The Harve

Caught that error on The Harve--edit - You are correct--its not equipped for soccer.

[BoulderSooner]

The only options right now outside of 13,000 seat Bricktown Ballpark would be:

Capacity - 6,860 - Putnam City Pirate Stadium, Oklahoma City
Capacity - 6,803 - Moses F. Miller Stadium, Douglass High School, Oklahoma City
Capacity - 6,000 - Millers Stadium, Yukon
Capacity - 5,000 - Husky Stadium, Edmond
Capacity - 4,500 - Eagles Stadium, Del City
Capacity - 4,000 - Mustang High School Stadium
Capacity - 4,000 - Edmond Memorial Stadium, Edmond
Capacity - 4,000 - Jim Thorpe Stadium, Shawnee
Capacity - 3,822 - Carl Albert Titans Football Field, Oklahoma City
Capacity - 3,558 - Putnam City West Patriots Stadium, Oklahoma City
Capacity - 3,600 - C. B. Speegle Stadium, Capitol Hill
Capacity - 3,105 Moore High School Stadium, Moore

BTW: Capacity - 12,000 Chad Rickison Stadium, UCO campus is not equipped for soccer.

Metro Oklahoma City area stadiums: https://stadiumconnection.com/ok/reg...x.php?region=3

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no the option is to spend 5 mil or so on a temp stadium ...

[Laramie]

no the option is to spend 5 mil or so on a temp stadium ...

Who has $5 million to spend on a temporary stadium... Doubt if Echo paid $5 million for the USL franchise rights?

We won't likely see any USL soccer in OKC until the MAPS 4 multipurpose stadium is completed in 2027.

[BoulderSooner]

Who has $5 million to spend on a temporary stadium... Doubt if Echo paid $5 million for the USL franchise rights?

We won't likely see any USL soccer in OKC until the MAPS 4 multipurpose stadium is completed in 2027.

usl championship expansion fees are currently 20 mil

[Laramie]

usl championship expansion fees are currently 20 mil

IIRC (Energy FC) built a nice training facility near N.E. 63rd.

Many of us are hungry for soccer's return; looks like that won't happen until 2027.

Kanady sounds ambitious:

On the Stadium District thread there's mention of a $ billion stadium development. Hope (won't hold my breath) that comes to fruition.

[CaptDave]

Surely John Crain field at OU would be sufficient as an interim home. I can't find definite dimensions but it certainly appears to meet USL requirements.

[jn1780]

no the option is to spend 5 mil or so on a temp stadium ...

And they could just build that temp stadium beside the location of the future new stadium. But, its probably not going to happen.

[Richard at Remax]

The Thunder branding is well worse than many high schools.

I think this is what happens when you have so many owners and chefs in the kitchen and then insist on using a local firm like Ackerman McQueen.

To be fair, I got to see at least 10 designs that AM proposed to them and the one the thunder chose was the worst of all of them. I think even AM was surprised.

[Rover]

To be fair, I got to see at least 10 designs that AM proposed to them and the one the thunder chose was the worst of all of them. I think even AM was surprised.

When you have so many involved you get the least common denominator. And, there is no assurance that because you have money or position that you have taste or marketing chops.
I was in the business for a very long time and when boards made the choices it was usually a watered down or populist style that was chosen. Everyone thinks branding is opinion, but it is a science, and having an opinion isn't the same as taste or talent.

[dankrutka]

To be fair, I got to see at least 10 designs that AM proposed to them and the one the thunder chose was the worst of all of them. I think even AM was surprised.

We need someone to leak the other designs!

[warreng88]

I found the old Oklahoman story where it was discussed.

https://www.oklahoman.com/story/spor...o/60988616007/

[Dob Hooligan]

We need someone to leak the other designs!

I have never heard anyone say...say...a bad word about the Thunder logo and brand besides locals. And then it is maybe on local sports talk radio, or social media. I have never heard anything on any gamecast or national NBA related broadcast. Never.

I gotta think the Thunder brand and logo is number 200 on the top 100 things for the Thunder organization to deal with.

[Snowman]

But all these stadiums do not have the right field size ! It has been the issue for soccer in OKC for years and the reason the Energy has to be on hold.
All of the football field in the USA are too narrow for soccer. As a consequence tracks around are not the same as international regulations. The straights are too long and the turn too narrow.

It seems bizarre that tier 3 or 4 soccer leagues chose international width as the hill to die on, when there is a plethora of field they could play on that are long enough but a bit narrow, with expanding to where teams usually stand probably could get to around 90% of international standard.

[dankrutka]

I have never heard anyone say...say...a bad word about the Thunder logo and brand besides locals. And then it is maybe on local sports talk radio, or social media. I have never heard anything on any gamecast or national NBA related broadcast. Never.

I gotta think the Thunder brand and logo is number 200 on the top 100 things for the Thunder organization to deal with.

Whenever national commentators discuss logos/branding, OKC is universally at the bottom. For example, Zack Lowe ranked all thirty NBA logos and OKC's was dead last. Here's what he said:

Like, what is this? Thunder higher-ups hoped fans would think of two things when they heard the name — storms and rampaging bison — but they didn’t want to commit visually in either direction. A stormy logo might marginalize the bison, a key symbol for local Native Americans, and the staid Thunder thought it would be silly to have mature adults wear jerseys with animals on them. “We didn’t feel like having professional players represented by [an] animal was where we wanted to be,” says Brian Byrnes, the team’s senior vice-president for sales and marketing. Besides, Byrnes says, “the bull was already taken.”

Straddling the fence resulted in this vanilla mishmash. “It might be the best D-League logo ever made,” says Tom O’Grady, who served as the NBA’s first creative director before leaving to found Gameplan Creative, a Chicago-based branding consultancy. Team officials say the shield hints at a leader charging into battle, and that the upward rising “bolts,” which don’t look like bolts at all, symbolize a young franchise growing up.

No team has worse art, top to bottom, and Nike will push for an overhaul once it replaces Adidas as the league’s apparel partner in 2017. Nike and the Thunder are already talking, and the Thunder “haven’t ruled out” a more explicit weather-related secondary mark, Byrnes says.

Bad news: Oklahoma City seems locked into the shield motif and likely won’t replace it with a bison — or anything else. “To some extent, we are committed to the idea we have,” Byrnes says. “But we would not dismiss good feedback, particularly from Nike. We’re open to modernizing the logo, but we don’t have an appetite to overhaul it.”

OKCBISONThey already have plenty of nice bison illustrations, courtesy of Dick Sakahara, a California designer who consulted with the Thunder during the team’s creation.

“I have a lot of bison that never got to be,” Sakahara says.

The Thunder logo is the worst professional logo I've ever seen except for the OKC Blue logo. They should change both of them. Is the world going to end if they don't? No. Does it reflect bad on the city? Yeah, a little bit.

[Dob Hooligan]

Whenever national commentators discuss logos/branding, OKC is universally at the bottom. For example, Zack Lowe ranked all thirty NBA logos and OKC's was dead last. Here's what he said:



The Thunder logo is the worst professional logo I've ever seen except for the OKC Blue logo. They should change both of them. Is the world going to end if they don't? No. Does it reflect bad on the city? Yeah, a little bit.

A 2015 Grantland article that has the Clippers number 29, the Pistons 28 and the Knicks 26 is your source?

[jn1780]

It really all started with the name. Not sure who thought it was good idea to name the team after a sound. That would be a challenge in a game of pictionary.

[dankrutka]

A 2015 Grantland article that has the Clippers number 29, the Pistons 28 and the Knicks 26 is your source?

Yes, from literally the most respected NBA writer. The point is that it’s incorrect that the disdain for OKC’s logo and branding is not just local; It’s unanimous. You’re welcome to find another source that doesn’t have OKC last, but they’d be the exception.

[Rover]

Whenever national commentators discuss logos/branding, OKC is universally at the bottom. For example, Zack Lowe ranked all thirty NBA logos and OKC's was dead last. Here's what he said:



The Thunder logo is the worst professional logo I've ever seen except for the OKC Blue logo. They should change both of them. Is the world going to end if they don't? No. Does it reflect bad on the city? Yeah, a little bit.

I didnt realize Zach Lowe is a marketing and design communications expert… i thought he is a sports writer.

[Dob Hooligan]

The number 1 or 2 most iconic team in NBA history plays in Los Angeles and is named for Minnesota’s “Land of 10,000 Lakes”; an NBA team has for about 40 years played in Salt Lake City Utah, and is named for New Orleans Jazz music; another team that plays in Memphis Tennessee is named for Grizzly bears from the Pacific Northwest area in Canada.

[dankrutka]

I didnt realize Zach Lowe is a marketing and design communications expert… i thought he is a sports writer.

Y'all keep moving the goal posts. The original premise was that people outside of OKC didn't think the Thunder logo and branding was bad. I provided an example from the most influential writer on the NBA. Now, you're demanding "a marketing and design communications expert." First, public perception matters. That's the point. Expert opinion is not the only opinion. Second, I guarantee you all the experts agree too. But you can use the internet too instead of just adding snarky comments without any supporting evidence. You're not added anything to the discussion.

[Dob Hooligan]

Y'all keep moving the goal posts. The original premise was that people outside of OKC didn't think the Thunder logo and branding was bad. I provided an example from the most influential writer on the NBA. Now, you're demanding "a marketing and design communications expert." First, public perception matters. That's the point. Expert opinion is not the only opinion. Second, I guarantee you all the experts agree too. But you can use the internet too instead of just adding snarky comments without any supporting evidence. You're not added anything to the discussion.

I will suggest the story you linked is the basis of my argument. It is a puff-piece used to fulfill the writer's NBA article count during the deadest period in the NBA year. July 2015 was the period after the playoffs and draft, with no Olympics.

The Detroit Pistons logo that is #28 in the Grantland article is the same item that is all over the court and warm ups on the Bad Boys documentary playing on my TV. The Knicks logo is #26. Nobody is realistically suggesting those logos are an embarrassment that should be changed.

I do not believe that the Thunder brand and logo is harming the Oklahoma City standing on the world stage, the Thunder image within the NBA organization, the Thunder revenue stream, or the Thunder ability to win games.

[Laramie]

First you didn't like the logo; now you don't like the patch--what's next, the new arena.

It's really time to move on past the logo and patch. I'm glad we have an NBA franchise that represents OKC and Oklahoma.

Thank you to The Professional Basketball Club, LLC; a new day is coming. Forgive me for getting off topic.

[citywokchinesefood]

First you didn't like the logo; now you don't like the patch--what's next, the new arena.

It's really time to move on past the logo and patch. I'm glad we have an NBA franchise that represents OKC and Oklahoma.

Thank you to The Professional Basketball Club, LLC; a new day is coming. Forgive me for getting off topic.

The branding is arguably the worst in professional sports internationally. Would you suck a dick that had herpes on it for the love of the game? Thats basically what you are saying you would do lol.

[Laramie]

^ ^ ^

The branding arguably is the worst in the NBA; not international professional sports. The example you gave about what you would suck or wouldn't suck--that IMO sucks.

How did we get this far off OKC Energy FC into a conversation about the NBA and OMG male penile satisfaction.

Let's get back on topic to USL OKC Energy FC.