Perle Mesta in the Skirvin Hotel

[OKCRealtor]

Agree with everything said on the original Vast opening. It couldn’t have been all Chef Black though. They brought in people from around the country to help open this & failed spectacularly. Mario the original GM I believe he was from Vegas told me this would be the best restaurant West of the Mississippi & Michelin stars would be easily attainable. The Egos & hubris involved in that deal was off the charts.

[TheTravellers]

Agree with everything said on the original Vast opening. It couldn’t have been all Chef Black though. They brought in people from around the country to help open this & failed spectacularly. Mario the original GM I believe he was from Vegas told me this would be the best restaurant West of the Mississippi & Michelin stars would be easily attainable. The Egos & hubris involved in that deal was off the charts.

As well as stupidity/lying (either intentionally or not) - Michelin doesn't do OKC.

[Rover]

As well as stupidity/lying (either intentionally or not) - Michelin doesn't do OKC.

There is nothing in Michelin’s criteria regarding location. It’s about the restaurant and their product. However, there is no Michelin chapter her, in Texas and in many other states.

[TheTravellers]

There is nothing in Michelin’s criteria regarding location. It’s about the restaurant and their product.

Maybe not officially, but do you *really* think OKC will have a Michelin-starred restaurant in the foreseeable future?

[Rover]

Maybe not officially, but do you *really* think OKC will have a Michelin-starred restaurant in the foreseeable future?

No. But most other states won’t either.

[Mballard85]

Michelin just awarded their first stars to Colorado this year, they are growing, but it's very very slowly. The only restaurants in OKC that would likely stand a chance would be Nonesuch or Grey Sweater, they fit the style that Michelin typically goes for. It's not written in stone, but tasting menu's with a lot of ingenuity are where they typically go. I've been to two and they both were tasting menu's.

[TheTravellers]

Michelin just awarded their first stars to Colorado this year, they are growing, but it's very very slowly. The only restaurants in OKC that would likely stand a chance would be Nonesuch or Grey Sweater, they fit the style that Michelin typically goes for. It's not written in stone, but tasting menu's with a lot of ingenuity are where they typically go. I've been to two and they both were tasting menu's.

Having been to both Nonesuch and Grey Sweater, I don't think either one would rate a star right now. Chipped bowls, too salty lamb, and a few other things at Grey Sweater would preclude that. Nonesuch has been a long time ago, and the food was better there, but not sure if it's at a Michelin-star level. Have never been to a Michelin-starred restaurant, but from what I've read, Nonesuch probably isn't one.

[Mballard85]

Having been to both Nonesuch and Grey Sweater, I don't think either one would rate a star right now. Chipped bowls, too salty lamb, and a few other things at Grey Sweater would preclude that. Nonesuch has been a long time ago, and the food was better there, but not sure if it's at a Michelin-star level. Have never been to a Michelin-starred restaurant, but from what I've read, Nonesuch probably isn't one.

Nonesuch could very well get the recommendation but not the distinction, the thing they have going for them right now is they just got taken over by the best group in the region who have stars in the Colorado guide. There will undoubtedly be some tightening up of things that will help. One thing about the two that I have dined at is they both have provided something that stands out, a dish that really changed the way I look at certain foods. Nonesuch has done that before, so I'm a big fan.

This is all for not though if they do not award here, which we would be lumped into a TX guide if they do one, so it could happen.

[Rover]

Nonesuch could very well get the recommendation but not the distinction, the thing they have going for them right now is they just got taken over by the best group in the region who have stars in the Colorado guide. There will undoubtedly be some tightening up of things that will help. One thing about the two that I have dined at is they both have provided something that stands out, a dish that really changed the way I look at certain foods. Nonesuch has done that before, so I'm a big fan.

This is all for not though if they do not award here, which we would be lumped into a TX guide if they do one, so it could happen.

Don’t believe they rate Texas either. Regardless, consistency is one of the criteria. Michelin is very demanding. Ive eaten at starred restaurants and i don't believe any OK restaurant would stand up to their criteria.

[Mballard85]

Don’t believe they rate Texas either. Regardless, consistency is one of the criteria. Michelin is very demanding. Ive eaten at starred restaurants and i don't believe any OK restaurant would stand up to their criteria.

Correct, but the guide is starting to expand further, so I was meaning if they decided to go into TX we would likely fall under that.

In regards to the second part, you are correct, but given the track record of Id Est it's certainly possible that they reach that level.

[TheTravellers]

Correct, but the guide is starting to expand further, so I was meaning if they decided to go into TX we would likely fall under that.

In regards to the second part, you are correct, but given the track record of Id Est it's certainly possible that they reach that level.

We're definitely going back to Nonesuch in a bunch of months after they get settled in, not so much for Grey Sweater (we'll try his other restaurants, though).