Boardwalk at Bricktown / Dream Hotel

[Oski]

I think it will eventually be built. If that doesn't happen, it doesn't really matter to me. They're not knocking down anything for this; it's always been empty land. Chill, guys!

[ChrisHayes]

Seeing the "sportsbook entrance" along with the full body, 4 sides of digital boards makes me think this is a development that was originally made for Vegas but never saw the light of day and is now being peddled on OKC. I wish I was more positive about it, but it just doesn't add up.

Maybe, but at the same time, design for projects can change at any time. Even during the building process.

[OkieinGeorgia]

Maybe, but at the same time, design for projects can change at any time. Even during the building process.

Of course, but to already assume it will have a sportsbook seems to me as it's just an item they forgot to change when updating the plans from Vegas to OKC. Just sayin.

[Pete]

Of course, but to already assume it will have a sportsbook seems to me as it's just an item they forgot to change when updating the plans from Vegas to OKC. Just sayin.

Yes, very strange they included a "sportsbook lobby".

Also if you look closely at the latest submission, what had been labeled Yard House is now just 'Brewery'.

[warreng88]

I am still of the opinion that I hope the 35 story buildings will get built (from my understanding, that is still the case). If the Legends Tower gets built, I would be very surprised. Three 35 story buildings in that area would be a huge boom for BT/DT and taking an empty parking lot to a development is icing on the cake.

For now, I am just ignoring all of the madness surrounding the Legends Tower in a believe it when I see it kind of thought process.

[warreng88]

Oklahoman article published this morning. A couple of notes:

The Oklahoma City Planning Commission on Thursday recommended the city council approve zoning for a proposed 1,907-foot-high tower but warned they do not like renderings showing extensive use of LED signage throughout the four-tower development.

Two people voiced concerns about the development, specifically the height of the project’s Legends Tower and LED signage that appears on renderings to be at the same height of the nearby 50-story Devon Energy Center.

“The billboards, the flashing lights, are a bit tacky for Oklahoma City,” Ciancarelli said.

Matteson, who attended the meeting with local partners Randy and Brad Hogan, indicated the signage discussion was not a deal breaker for his project.

Matteson said Thursday he still plans to start site work this summer on the first phase of the $1.2 billion development, which will consist of two towers, named Ruby and Emerald, that will be 23 stories above a parking and retail podium.

The presentation showed the (Legends) tower will include 904 luxury residences, 352 Hyatt Hotel rooms, and 99 residences by Hyatt.

[jdg78]

I have been to the Yard House out at Red Rock in Vegas.

[April in the Plaza]

First off stop calling it Oklahoma City’s pipe dream!! The citizens of Oklahoma City are not financing any of this!

How do you figure that? The City approved $200 million in TIF funds.

[HOT ROD]

Maybe 'Yard House' was removed due to t'heir relizing 'The Yard' development being nearby.

As for the Vegas elements shown in the recent renderings, the developer has always indicated this would be a Vegas-style development in OKC. ....

[Bowser214]

I meant the citizens didn’t vote to use a one cent sales tax as part of a MAPS package.
Yes the City government voted on a TIF package.

[HOT ROD]

I'm so glad that the leaders don't fall for these very uninformed arguments about weather, natural and un-natural disasters, whetever comes to mind - arguments trying to kill development. It is very clear that skyscraper designs today have been enhanced to allow buildings to withstand just about any disaster, possibly including an unnatural plane attack.

I think it was disgusting of the former NY resident to even bring that up, she opened the wounds not the developer. WTC was a completely different type of skyscraper, that was exposed during the attack. I hate to say it but WTC was a sitting duck for the type of unnatural attack - but towers are not built that way anymore. Why try to use that even to discourage a tower here? It'd almost be similar to saying someone could park a truck bomb near the tower and we'd have 1995 again. ...

As for the light polution. You're downtown, there will be light and sound pollution - thats where we want it. The billboards, if approved, will likely follow the same restrictions as the other skyscrapers in OKC - they'd have to turn off at midnight or whever Devon and BOKPP turn theirs off. I suspect they may even need to follow First National - especially since it is the current benchmark for OKC/Luxury Highrise - when they turn theirs off at 10:30ish. Arguing over seeing the tower in Del City - yes you will be. But the lights wont be much different in intensity than the Devon Tower, and IMO it's part of the allure of the tower. Now, should there be so many lights/billboards; probably not.

But to use many false pretenses (Oklahoma weather, tornadoes, earthquakes, terrorism??, lights/billboards) to me just speaks of nymbiasm moreso than a real concern that the building shouldn't be built.

[Laramie]

How do you figure that? The City approved $200 million in TIF funds.

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Thanks for pointing that out. Everything comes with a price tag including the TIF funds given when benchmarks are met.

Like many of you, just get the three 345' tall buildings under construction; upon completion they will add more height and horizon to the skyline.

[Laramie]

List of tallest buildings in Oklahoma City: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o..._Oklahoma_City

Scroll down v near the bottom (Approved and proposed buildings), surprised to see Legends Tower listed with ground breaking in 2026.

[Midtowner]

I think something serious will be built. At least it seems further along in the news over whether the $5.5 billion new refinery will really be built in Cushing.

My family is originally from Cushing. Great Great grandfather came there and started the furniture store which is still downtown. Cherry Street is named after his cherry orchard.

Cushing is a strange place. If you were to plop a refinery in the middle of 99% of U.S. towns, people would scream bloody murder. In Cushing, it would be welcome. It's not just home to those folks unless you have the odor of petrochemicals in the air.

[bison34]

List of tallest buildings in Oklahoma City: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o..._Oklahoma_City

Scroll down v near the bottom (Approved and proposed buildings), surprised to see Legends Tower listed with ground breaking in 2026.

Haha, anyone can edit Wikipedia pages. Hard to take a lot of stock in wiki. But it is weird it has its on Wikipedia page.

[HOT ROD]

In all fairness, the wiki author(s) cite sources on Legends Tower and the rest of the development. Ironically, they got the naming of the other two towers wrong; they say 'Dream Hotel project' 'Res 1 tower', 'Res 2 tower' when the developer/source(s) have already noted the towers as 'Emerald' and 'Ruby' towers of the 'Boardwalk at Bricktown'.

[Laramie]

Haha, anyone can edit Wikipedia pages. Hard to take a lot of stock in wiki. But it is weird it has its on Wikipedia page.

Have you tried to edit anything on Wikipedia. Only saw one item on the tallest buildings in OKC that raised an eyebrow, that was the info listed about the Legends Tower in 2026; I've never edited anything in Wikipedia; however I know they have to be approved. IIFC when OKC completed BOK Park Plaza it wasn't listed until several posters addressed the issue calling it to Wikipedia's attention.

[Swake]

Have you tried to edit anything on Wikipedia. Only saw one item on the tallest buildings in OKC that raised an eyebrow, that was the info listed about the Legends Tower in 2026; I've never edited anything in Wikipedia; however I know they have to be approved. IIFC when OKC completed BOK Park Plaza it wasn't listed until several posters addressed the issue calling it to Wikipedia's attention.

There's an edit button on the top right of every wiki page where you can edit the page, right then, no waiting.

[Laramie]

There's an edit button on the top right of every wiki page where you can edit the page, right then, no waiting.

Familiar with the edit button, I've never attempted to edit anything on Wiki; does the edit show up on everyone's page. Edit something like the height of a building, and see if the changes are made universally.

Example: Try editing the height of Devon Tower from 844 to 921. Let's see if any changes are made or does Wiki validate or proof the edit.

[Swake]

Familiar with the edit button, I've never attempted to edit anything on Wiki; does the edit show up on everyone's page. Edit something like the height of a building, and see if the changes are made universally.

Example: Try editing the height of Devon Tower from 844 to 921. Let's see if any changes are made or does Wiki validate or proof the edit.

Your edit will show globally. But, if you don't follow the rules or cite your changes wiki editors may remove your change.

[Laramie]

Your edit will show globally. But, if you don't follow the rules or cite your changes wiki editors may remove your change.

Okay, I thought there was more to making an edit than anyone simply being able to make Global changes.

[Ryan]

Your edit will show globally. But, if you don't follow the rules or cite your changes wiki editors may remove your change.

Not necessarily the city place tower is 440ft tall but it’s listed on Wikipedia as 391ft. And it uses a thread like this one as a source. . You can visibly discern from seeing the first Natl and city place across the street that they’re virtually the same height. And the information on height is easily found on search. So I don’t think Wikipedia is too reliable or the information is vetted too well

[Laramie]

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So true, but do they count the antenna atop a build as height. . .

If so, that would account for the difference in height between First National (443) and City Place (391). If they exclude the antenna, and use the shoulders' of the building--there's very little height difference between the two.

List of tallest buildings in Oklahoma City: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o..._Oklahoma_City

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[PhiAlpha]

Not necessarily the city place tower is 440ft tall but it’s listed on Wikipedia as 391ft. And it uses a thread like this one as a source. . You can visibly discern from seeing the first Natl and city place across the street that they’re virtually the same height. And the information on height is easily found on search. So I don’t think Wikipedia is too reliable or the information is vetted too well

Depends on what standard they’re using for building height.

[Ryan]

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So true, but do they count the antenna atop a build as height. . .

If so, that would account for the difference in height between First National (443) and City Place (391). If they exclude the antenna, and use the shoulders' of the building--there's very little height difference between the two.

List of tallest buildings in Oklahoma City: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o..._Oklahoma_City

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With the antennae first national is 496’ it is 443’ foot to the top of the roof.