Yes, that’s why I loaded my post up qualifiers, i.e. “…depending upon corresponding elevations and elimination of visual obstructions..”
And that’s why I described the tower as “currently fictitious.”
I do believe the first phase happens, FWIW. I’ve been talking with some of the people involved in this project from the outset. The people here are for real. The supertall, who knows…
Yeah I think it's highly likely a 2 or 3 tower space gets built. Honestly I'd like something a little taller than planned even if that means two towers simply to help balance DVN. We need something in between Bancfirst and DVN in height. The discrepancy there is pretty dramatic.
But that's unlikely for this project. We need Chevron to move their HQ to OKC...well that's probably unlikely too lol.
Or Chase bank .....
Made national news. Mostly rehash and ends with OKC isn't ready for this.
https://www.cnn.com/2024/01/27/inves...ity/index.html
The biggest OKC development dissappointment of the 2010s. When that was announced, the developer and the city were pretty confident that at least one of the towers would get built. The other three were more aspirational. In hindsight, it appears that rendering may have simply been a means to quiet public opposition to the demolition of the Stage Center.
This was on the front page of CNN today.
As quoted from iccsafe.org: As indicated in the definition for a high-rise building in Section 202 of the 2015 International Building Code (IBC), a building is considered a high-rise when there is an “occupied floor” more than 75 feet above the lowest level of fire department vehicle access.
Then, the way I interpret that is, any building where there's an occupied floor 75 feet or higher off the ground. You don't even need to be 10 stories up for that. I stick with the generic less than 5, 5-9, and 10+ building definitions. Less than 5 being low rise. 5-9 being mid rise. 10 or greater being a high rise. By my definition, we've had 5 high rises built in OKC since the completion of Devon. BOK Park Plaza, Omni Hotel, the hotel in Bricktown, Okana Resort's hotel, and The Citizen.
My wife and I were completely bummed when the Stage Center closed and then demo'd. The plans for what was to replace softened the loss, but when it fell through, we knew the rug of lies was pulled. Def felt that this was done just to get rid of SC and shut people up like BChris02 said.
The OAK hotel and the Innovation District hotel both count by means of the IBC definition. And BTW, the Empire State Building is not a highrise, it's a 'supertall' by the means of the international benchmark of 300 meters (984 feet). A 'megatall' goes by the benchmark of 600 meters (1968 feet). So this proposed development barely shaves under the 'megatall' status.
That's insanity. If developers hypothetically decide to make it 1995 feet as a means to commemorate the bombing, we would have the country's first and only megatall.
I think by lowest level of vehicle access you're probably looking at 75' above what your tallest ladder truck with pumping apparatus can reach... in big cities that's pretty high... I used to work with guys who used a French made fire truck (fiberglass work on wind turbine blades) with 300'+ of reach. I would assume 75' above that.
as far as Oklahoma city goes, you'd have to look up what kind of trucks we have servicing the downtown area and what their reach is to service or execute entry/egress from a burning building I would say...
https://www.usatoday.com/story/money...r/72371121007/
Haha check this one out.
This snark and incredulity really represents the bulk of the response I've seen from this wave of national stories.
And using the TIF award as evidence of local optimism for the tower seems disingenuous. Wasn't that approved for the original plans that showed no such tower? I'm not saying it wouldn't have been awarded if this has been in the original plans but the logic seems reversed here.
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