Crossroads Mall

[SEMIweather]

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[Pete]

None of this has anything to do with Crossroads Mall.

I will delete future off-topic posts.

[jn1780]

Crazy going back to the first posts on this thread and seeing talk about interchange construction 19 years ago! I had just graduated high school. I guess it wasn't the interchange or Pole road closure doing them in. It will probably be the completion of the interchange that finally triggers something new going in at the Crossroads mall property.

[mugofbeer]

The biggest waste of prime industrial property in OKC. Clear the thing off and prepare it for an ideal industrial candidate..

[jn1780]

Crossroads was built next door to a landfill(or maybe the landfill came after?) that gradually got larger and larger over the years. That's a big hurdle that has to be overcome for anything non-industrial.

[TheTravellers]

Crossroads was built next door to a landfill(or maybe the landfill came after?) that gradually got larger and larger over the years. That's a big hurdle that has to be overcome for anything non-industrial.

What actual physical restrictions/problems/etc. does this landfill actually cause for the location and is a big hurdle to overcome (smell, noise, ...)? Or is it just perception?

[jn1780]

What actual physical restrictions/problems/etc. does this landfill actually cause for the location and is a big hurdle to overcome (smell, noise, ...)? Or is it just perception?

Perception. Not that it can't be improved if you position future buildings in a way that blocks the view of the landfill.

[Mesta Parker]

Crossroads was built next door to a landfill(or maybe the landfill came after?) that gradually got larger and larger over the years. That's a big hurdle that has to be overcome for anything non-industrial.

The landfill was there before Crossroads.

[SEMIweather]

The smell from that landfill can be pretty awful at times, but shouldn’t serve as a major impediment for the Crossroads location because OKC so rarely gets due easterly winds.

[jdg78]

How many landfills are in North OKC?

[jn1780]

There is one landfill in NE OKC. There is also one semi close to the outlet shops. I think that isn't as old so it's not as tall in height. Plus, outlet shops isn't built on a hill.

[jn1780]

The smell from that landfill can be pretty awful at times, but shouldn’t serve as a major impediment for the Crossroads location because OKC so rarely gets due easterly winds.

I live a few blocks to the west of the Purina plant. It would nice if something besides warehouses, body shops, or dealerships went in along that stretch of memorial. Closest we got was some Warren theater rumors. I don't know how much is due to occasional Purina smells drifting back to the west.

[bombermwc]

I live in north Moore and worked out at the old Lucent Plan (7725 Connect) and also on South Meridian over the years. I will tell you that if you hit the wind right, you can smell the stockyards and both dumps. But 99% of the time, you can't smell any of those from the residential or commercial areas surrounding them.

It's actually funny that on 240, when you're driving west at sundown, the sun sort of hits behind Mt. Trashmore and it also looks like a little mountain skyline view. Of course, you travel another mile and you realize what it is. But from far away, it can almost look "nice". hahahahaha.

Crossroads has plenty of other undesirable things nearby though. Valley Brook for sure. That entire NE corner of the land is industrial grossness. The mostly abandoned strip mall to the SW. I mean honestly, there isn't anything nice near it at all. It really is a zone of dead grossness. And it's been that way for at least 30 years.

[Shortsyeararound]

I live in north Moore and worked out at the old Lucent Plan (7725 Connect) and also on South Meridian over the years. I will tell you that if you hit the wind right, you can smell the stockyards and both dumps. But 99% of the time, you can't smell any of those from the residential or commercial areas surrounding them.

It's actually funny that on 240, when you're driving west at sundown, the sun sort of hits behind Mt. Trashmore and it also looks like a little mountain skyline view. Of course, you travel another mile and you realize what it is. But from far away, it can almost look "nice". hahahahaha.

Crossroads has plenty of other undesirable things nearby though. Valley Brook for sure. That entire NE corner of the land is industrial grossness. The mostly abandoned strip mall to the SW. I mean honestly, there isn't anything nice near it at all. It really is a zone of dead grossness. And it's been that way for at least 30 years.

Close, I would say 26 years. 30 years ago it was thriving- Okc Sports, Best Buy, Luby's, Toy's R Us- all making money on the periphery.

[PhiAlpha]

Would be a great spot for the new jail.

[oklip955]

Since nothing has ever come of all the so called plans, I think it needs to just be torn down. With that said I agree it would be a good spot to put the county jail.

[unfundedrick]

Close, I would say 26 years. 30 years ago it was thriving- Okc Sports, Best Buy, Luby's, Toy's R Us- all making money on the periphery.

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[unfundedrick]

I live in north Moore and worked out at the old Lucent Plan (7725 Connect) and also on South Meridian over the years. I will tell you that if you hit the wind right, you can smell the stockyards and both dumps. But 99% of the time, you can't smell any of those from the residential or commercial areas surrounding them.

It's actually funny that on 240, when you're driving west at sundown, the sun sort of hits behind Mt. Trashmore and it also looks like a little mountain skyline view. Of course, you travel another mile and you realize what it is. But from far away, it can almost look "nice". hahahahaha.

Crossroads has plenty of other undesirable things nearby though. Valley Brook for sure. That entire NE corner of the land is industrial grossness. The mostly abandoned strip mall to the SW. I mean honestly, there isn't anything nice near it at all. It really is a zone of dead grossness. And it's been that way for at least 30 years.

I can't disagree that it would be nice to have better neighbors but , in my many years of going there, I never gave a minute of thought about what else was in the area. My only concern was what was in the mall that I was interested in.

[bombermwc]

I can't disagree that it would be nice to have better neighbors but , in my many years of going there, I never gave a minute of thought about what else was in the area. My only concern was what was in the mall that I was interested in.

Except you can't ignore that fact. The area around where a commercial district is, does impact the likelihood of customers going there and it's longevity. Crossroads is in an area that did not fare well over the years and is (even without Crossroads closing) quite economically depressed. Now, you don't have to go far to exist that depressed area, but it certainly focused pretty hard right in that area. I would say that Penn is good example of the opposite. The schools (PCO) in that area are not particularly good, but the area around it has stayed on the nicer side. There's been continual development right up against it for decades, and RE-development. The surroundings there absolutely are important for how Penn continues.

At this point, i just wish they would doze the whole thing and start over. It's better as a dirt mound that an ongoing reminder of failure after failure and the inability of people to cooperate towards a common goal. Like Heritage, it's just going to continue to fester and rot until someone condemns it.

[unfundedrick]

Except you can't ignore that fact. The area around where a commercial district is, does impact the likelihood of customers going there and it's longevity.

I wasn't ignoring anything. I just said it had no bearing at all on me. I don't pretend to know how other people felt.

[mugofbeer]

Would be a great spot for the new jail.

Respectfully, no. Its way too valuable a property and way too prominent for okcs image.

[Pete]

Just noticed today that "AMC Classic Crossroads" has permanently closed; I know it was open a month ago so not exactly sure when it was shuttered:

https://www.amctheatres.com/amc-clas...oads-16-closed

[bison34]

So many memories of seeing movies there. Saw all 3 LOTR premiers there. Just kinda crazy. AMC didn't really do much to keep it modern or profitable, and the mall dying really hurt it, as well.

So much fanfare when it opened.

[Rover]

Respectfully, no. Its way too valuable a property and way too prominent for okcs image.

Why do so many think this is such a valuable location? The market doesn’t agree,

[Ginkasa]

Just noticed today that "AMC Classic Crossroads" has permanently closed; I know it was open a month ago so not exactly sure when it was shuttered:

https://www.amctheatres.com/amc-clas...oads-16-closed

I posted about it 10 days ago which is what brought this thread back up and got people arguing, lol

The AMC Crossroads 16 has permanently closed according to the AMC website.

Pretty sure it had just closed at that point, but I don't a specific day.