Winstar World Casino

[Ward]

I remember an old job I used to have, I'd have to go down to Dallas a couple of times a week. On the way back I'd take Exit 1, stop in and get fuel, and take a break at the casino. The casino was basically a couple 2 or 3 doublewide office type trailers. Full of smoke, not too crowded, I'd play the penny slot machine for awhile. IIRC they were just starting to build something where the current Winstar is now. It was a very humble beginning.

This was back in 2007-2009 ish, my employer at that time is no longer in business. But it was fun while it lasted.

[ourulz2000]

If they could invest more in the golf courses and get a big time tour event there that would bring additional appeal.

[chssooner]

If they could get some upscale shopping, that would help them withstand some of the loss when Texas eventually opens up for corporate casinos and resorts.

[catch22]

Having a massive head start in time only helps the Winstar. People who are used to going there and having their lucky parking space, their lucky machine, passing by their lucky gas station on the way etc. Comps might have to increase, but I think it is becoming a destination of its own where some casinos closer to Dallas wouldn't be a huge factor. Overall it might be welcome to temper some of the cheaper crowds who only want to spend $60 and leave (me).

In other words, how many people do you know in OKC that drive by several casinos on their way south just to get to the Winstar? I would imagine there would be similar loyalty going north out of Dallas, especially if they can nail down the entertainment dollar.

[soonergolfer]

It boggles my mind that the tribe doesn’t do anything with the newscastle location. The whole casino is a bunch of pre-fab buildings put together. That place should have been flattened a log time ago and rebuild a large high end hotel, gaming destination center like winstar. Add golf, shopping, spa dine dining and they would kill.

[Snowman]

It boggles my mind that the tribe doesn’t do anything with the newscastle location. The whole casino is a bunch of pre-fab buildings put together. That place should have been flattened a log time ago and rebuild a large high end hotel, gaming destination center like winstar. Add golf, shopping, spa dine dining and they would kill.

It seems like constructing RIverwinds may have been a form of that, they have the same ownership but Riverwinds is closer to population and it's freeway has more traffic.
That also gives closer to 3x the space verses just the 2x of the new building, along with expanding how many people are in a short drive of a casino.
Plus most commercial buildings it will be at least 30 years before need either major refurbishment or replacement, granted given how few other types allow smoking it may be sooner for casinos.

[Dob Hooligan]

It boggles my mind that the tribe doesn’t do anything with the newscastle location. The whole casino is a bunch of pre-fab buildings put together. That place should have been flattened a log time ago and rebuild a large high end hotel, gaming destination center like winstar. Add golf, shopping, spa dine dining and they would kill.

I think the Chickasaw are waiting for the final turnpike configuration to be set. Possibly even waiting for construction to start. I heard somewhere they are planning a health complex in the area, as well.

[GoGators]

I'm Very curious to see how the passing of SQ820 will affect Windstar if it does in fact pass. It would be a huge opportunity for Windstar to get yet another advantage they could exploit to entice Texans to cross the border and spend their money in Oklahoma. They are set up perfectly to take advantage of the new law if it gets enough votes to pass.

[Jersey Boss]

I'm Very curious to see how the passing of SQ820 will affect Windstar if it does in fact pass. It would be a huge opportunity for Windstar to get yet another advantage they could exploit to entice Texans to cross the border and spend their money in Oklahoma. They are set up perfectly to take advantage of the new law if it gets enough votes to pass.

I'm guessing the land this sits on is under the auspices of the Federal government. If that is the case then it won't have any effect.

[GoGators]

I'm guessing the land this sits on is under the auspices of the Federal government. If that is the case then it won't have any effect.

I didn't mean that the casino itself would sell marijuana from its casino property. I meant that it would be used as selling point to get more people to cross the border on regular basis. SQ820 passing would make the idea of a quick trip north of the river for the weekend that much more enticing for a lot of people.

[FighttheGoodFight]

Seems like Texas is slowly moving to legalized gaming. https://txdra.com/destination-resort...ighter-groups/

[Laramie]

Don't see anything like this coming to fruition.

Texas is not looking for anything that will take away from their entertainment non gaming resorts like the Gaylord Texan--they don't want the destructive baggage that comes with legalized casino gambling. IMO this would lead to organized crime and a threat to the non gaming resorts.

Winstar is a convenient alternative across the border to wet the appetite of gamblers who might otherwise be spending their dollars in Las Vegas--who gets its share in tourism dollars.

[soonergolfer]

Whether they legalize gaming or not in Texas, it has nothing to do with the Gaylord Texas or any other resort. Haha, organized crime? This isn't the 1950's. There is more "organized crime" in the Oklahoma pot industry that there ever would be in a legitimate Texas gaming industry.

[ourulz2000]

Texas online sports betting bill last month failed. If they can't get online sports betting to pass then in-person gambling is a long way off. Next online sports betting vote won't be until 2025. By then, Winstar may have another tower or two already under construction.

[chssooner]

Texas online sports betting bill last month failed. If they can't get online sports betting to pass then in-person gambling is a long way off. Next online sports betting vote won't be until 2025. By then, Winstar may have another tower or two already under construction.

They need to focus on amenities and entertainment, since those hotel rooms will be empty if DFW gets a mega Vegas-style resort.

[gjl]

Back to discussing Winstar. We stayed at the new Spa Tower last week. Really didn't seem like a new building at all. We actually like the North and South Pool Towers better. And they are advertising a lot of acts coming soon to the new event center. A few big names. Rod Stewart, Katt Williams are a couple.

[okatty]

Was at Winstar last night and saw Chickasaws are building a new casino and hotel near Ardmore / Lake Murray. It was getting some press on the local news. This may be discussed somewhere else but had not seen anything about it.

[Pete]

Was at Winstar last night and saw Chickasaws are building a new casino and hotel near Ardmore / Lake Murray. It was getting some press on the local news. This may be discussed somewhere else but had not seen anything about it.

Here's more on it; it's called Lakecrest:

https://www.500nations.com/casinos/o...ray-casino.asp

[mugofbeer]

Just imagine if Winstar had been built on Lake Texoma .....

[BG918]

Just imagine if Winstar had been built on Lake Texoma .....

I’ve wondered when one of the tribes will finally build a casino-resort on one of the lakes with a beach, marina, golf course, etc. surprised it hasn’t happened on either Texoma, Eufaula or Grand

[okatty]

The Lucas Oil Live venue at Winstar looks impressive and the acts being promoted from now thru spring ‘24 should get a lot of attendance.

https://www.winstar.com/entertainment/events

[oklip955]

If Texas allows gambling, will the tribes that use to live there be allowed to open casinos?

[chssooner]

If Texas allows gambling, will the tribes that use to live there be allowed to open casinos?

They will go with the corporate style. Think Vegas-style mega resorts. They might have some tribal casinos, but they want to have those mega resorts. 100%.

[PhiAlpha]

Just imagine if Winstar had been built on Lake Texoma .....

Obviously not Winstar but the Chickasaw's built West Bay Casino in the middle of the Point Vista Development.

I think the main issue with that is that Winstar's location on I-35 is way more accessible to Dallas/Fort Worth than anything on Texoma would be. Would be way cooler though.

[kukblue1]

The Lucas Oil Live venue at Winstar looks impressive and the acts being promoted from now thru spring ‘24 should get a lot of attendance.

https://www.winstar.com/entertainment/events

Saw Miranda Lambert. It was really nice. Sound was great not really a bad seat in the house unless maybe way way up top. Would see a show there again problem is being a casino and small venue ticket prices seem higher. Food was resealable. Water $4 Pizza slice $7 Pretzel $7 pop $5 beer I think was $9