NW 43rd & Francis

[SEMIweather]

That's the point. It is supposed to feel tight so people slow down. This makes pedestrians safer.

It also has the pleasant side effect of being maybe the one road in the city travelling through a pedestrian-heavy area where one can drive the speed limit without getting tailgated like crazy. Just try driving down 23rd Street at 25 mph sometime to see how absurd it is that they lowered that speed limit without making any other pedestrian-friendly improvements to the road. Arguably more dangerous now with a few people trying to go the speed limit, while many people fly past at 35 mph since that's still what the road was designed for.

[barrettd]

That's the point. It is supposed to feel tight so people slow down. This makes pedestrians safer.

When people don't slow down, it makes it more challenging to turn onto Western without hitting the curb or crossing over the middle line. Maybe it's specific to some of the corners I happen to frequent when driving. When I visit a business on Western, I do appreciate the walkability, once parked.

[barrettd]

For real. If you drive a normal size vehicle and are driving an inappropriate speed, you shouldn't have any issue navigating the street without hitting things. They already had to remove the chicanes in the road because people couldn't manage that. I'm all for removing street parking in general, but I'm sure the surrounding neighborhoods would have protested having business parking spill even further into their neighborhood and the street is otherwise not wide enough to accommodate both 2 lanes of car traffic plus bike lanes.

I'm talking about turning right on to Western, in either direction, from a stop sign off one of the numbered streets. I'm not flying down Western bouncing off of things. No big deal, I just avoid it now.

[Plutonic Panda]

Raised crosswalks would also be nice here in some areas.

[Mississippi Blues]

Raised crosswalks would also be nice here in some areas.

Great suggestion. This would be one of the most fitting areas in Oklahoma City for a raised crosswalk. I’m almost surprised there isn’t at least one yet.

[onthestrip]

NW 42 St directly to the south is part of Crown Heights, a historical preservation district. My guess is that is where the opposition is coming from. Personally, I don't see the addition of multi unit housing on a block of single family dwellings as good. It is out of character with the neighborhood.

But the massive parking lot for Will Rogers theater is in character? What a ridiculous stance. As someone already pointed out, Crown Heights, Mesta, Heritage, they all have many multi family properties within the neighborhood and have since their beginning. Just typical selfish NIMBY arguments.

[Mesta Parker]

Who’s said anything about the Will Rogers parking lot being in character? What a ridiculous statement! As you stated, the multi family properties have been there since the beginning and therefore do match the character of the neighborhood. This project design does not.

[SEMIweather]

Neighborhood character can and does change over time. The core of the city is increasing in population and growing denser.

[onthestrip]

Who’s said anything about the Will Rogers parking lot being in character? What a ridiculous statement! As you stated, the multi family properties have been there since the beginning and therefore do match the character of the neighborhood. This project design does not.

I mention the parking lot because, while out of character, it exists and hasnt harmed the neighborhood. All the tear down rebuilds for single family homes, some of them with more than 1 dwelling per lot, in varying styles, all dont fit the "character." This isnt in Crown Heights, its outside of it, so character really shouldnt even be an argument. Its one block east of what you could say is OKC's original urban district, its absurd to block denser housing one block from a stretch of multiple restaurants, bars, shops, etc. Again, classic selfish NIMBY arguments.