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    Northwest OKC NW 43rd & Francis

    New infill project is being proposed. Don't know if it will be rental or condos.













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    Nice.

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    Lots of tear downs and new construction in this whole area east of Western on over to Shartel, but most close to Western. Quietly starting to gut the neighborhood and rebuild.

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    Gonna guess Omega Investments and Common Works Architects.

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    The opposition for this on the Planning Commission's schedule is fierce. Not sure if I've ever seen this many protest forms filed for a single project. I'll be curious to see if it results in any changes to the design.

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    I actually like this design. That stretch of 43rd was nothing special. It fits aesthetically with Will Rogers Theatre and increases density in a tasteful way.

    Certainly understand why other developments of this nature are not desired, but this one should be approved.

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    What is that giant parking lot for? It would be nice to see that turned into a mixed use development with subterranean parking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Plutonic Panda View Post
    What is that giant parking lot for? It would be nice to see that turned into a mixed use development with subterranean parking.
    Parking for will Rogers theatre to the west

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    It is kinda cheap looking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by warreng88 View Post
    Parking for will Rogers theatre to the west
    I feel so dumb I couldn’t peace together where this was at until I went to google maps and looked at the area and realized. SMH lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by LocoAko View Post
    The opposition for this on the Planning Commission's schedule is fierce. Not sure if I've ever seen this many protest forms filed for a single project. I'll be curious to see if it results in any changes to the design.
    What is the basis for the opposition? In a nutshell

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bowser214 View Post
    It is kinda cheap looking.
    Not necessarily. Lots of brick and some detail. Probably depends on the quality of the siding used. Looks appropriate for the neighborhood.

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    They’re just renderings, but I actually like the look of them quite a bit. Unfortunately, in person could be completely different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rover View Post
    What is the basis for the opposition? In a nutshell
    Significantly denser than the offsetting uses, although I'm not necessarily sure that is a bad thing in and of itself. I would guess there is strong demand for this sort of housing. And I love the idea of being able to walk to Neko and pick up a sixer or two at Freeman's.

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    NW 42 St directly to the south is part of Crown Heights, a historical preservation district. My guess is that is where the opposition is coming from. Personally, I don't see the addition of multi unit housing on a block of single family dwellings as good. It is out of character with the neighborhood.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rover View Post
    What is the basis for the opposition? In a nutshell
    Density/height (and associated parking/traffic) with it being out of place for the neighborhood, and proposed use of a communal dumpster for trash.

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    Quote Originally Posted by April in the Plaza View Post
    Significantly denser than the offsetting uses, although I'm not necessarily sure that is a bad thing in and of itself. I would guess there is strong demand for this sort of housing. And I love the idea of being able to walk to Neko and pick up a sixer or two at Freeman's.
    There is already a trend to higher density development in the area seeping in from Western. It seems good to have this type of infill start to develop on and around Western as a main artery.

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    Western between 36th and 50th cannot be a main artery without ripping out the street improvements added a few years ago between 41st and 45th to make Western more pedestrian friendly for businesses and restaurants.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mesta Parker View Post
    Western between 36th and 50th cannot be a main artery without ripping out the street improvements added a few years ago between 41st and 45th to make Western more pedestrian friendly for businesses and restaurants.
    Agreed. What a ridiculous design. Should’ve had bus or bike lanes with expanded sidewalks and a parking garage built to replace street parking.

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    Good news, hopefully it compliments the new multifamily developments immediately northwest of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mesta Parker View Post
    Western between 36th and 50th cannot be a main artery without ripping out the street improvements added a few years ago between 41st and 45th to make Western more pedestrian friendly for businesses and restaurants.
    I actively avoid that stretch of Western. I'm not sure exactly what they did to it, but it feels very tight now, getting on and off of Western. I almost always nick a curb in my little Civic. I just stay off of it from 36-50th.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mesta Parker View Post
    NW 42 St directly to the south is part of Crown Heights, a historical preservation district. My guess is that is where the opposition is coming from. Personally, I don't see the addition of multi unit housing on a block of single family dwellings as good. It is out of character with the neighborhood.

    Without being too snarky, I would like to point out that your very own Mesta Park has *tons* of legacy high-density buildings nestled in among single-family housing and it has worked out pretty well there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by barrettd View Post
    I actively avoid that stretch of Western. I'm not sure exactly what they did to it, but it feels very tight now, getting on and off of Western. I almost always nick a curb in my little Civic. I just stay off of it from 36-50th.
    That's the point. It is supposed to feel tight so people slow down. This makes pedestrians safer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mesta Parker View Post
    NW 42 St directly to the south is part of Crown Heights, a historical preservation district. My guess is that is where the opposition is coming from. Personally, I don't see the addition of multi unit housing on a block of single family dwellings as good. It is out of character with the neighborhood.
    There's already four or five newer multi-family dwellings less than 500 feet away from this proposal, and they're all at the high end of the mutli-family market.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoGators View Post
    That's the point. It is supposed to feel tight so people slow down. This makes pedestrians safer.
    For real. If you drive a normal size vehicle and are driving an inappropriate speed, you shouldn't have any issue navigating the street without hitting things. They already had to remove the chicanes in the road because people couldn't manage that. I'm all for removing street parking in general, but I'm sure the surrounding neighborhoods would have protested having business parking spill even further into their neighborhood and the street is otherwise not wide enough to accommodate both 2 lanes of car traffic plus bike lanes.

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