Crossroads Mall

[Boop]

I am glad it is reopening but it is sad to see the mall in terrible shape

[ourulz2000]

Wasn't Steve and Barry's in the Montgomery Ward space for a little bit?

The greatest store brand in the history of Crossroads Mall. You go into Steve and Barry's with $100 and you were literally a king.

[Pete]

As far as reopening the mall, they are now aiming for late October/early November.

[HOT ROD]

very nice to see this. Wow - has a regional mall the size of Crossroads come back to life as a mall?

I nope now, that they resolve the security issues AND capitalize on what malls are now without canibalizing from Capital Hill and downtown. Make crossroads the unique draw with offerings not found in the metro/state/region.

[Jesseda]

With the store leases that are going in the mall it looks like a lot of it is going to be more of a Old Paris Flea market type stores. Im glad its being used as a mall again instead of being vacant. Hopefully it makes a go of it but it looks like the same style shops when they tried making it a cultural center mall. Hopefully with the asian area going into the old Jcpennys area it will help the mall part with customers.

[Pete]

Yeah, just being open and having some businesses inside is probably the best we can hope for at this point.

[SouthSide]

Sadly, I240 as a retail center is on a downward slide. Too bad Envision 240 never received the support it deserves and needs. It may well go the way of Crossroads.

[macfoucin]

Exclusive sneak peek of abandoned Crossroads Mall in South Oklahoma City set to soon reopen
https://kfor.com/news/exclusive-snea...o-soon-reopen/

[Pete]

Construction has started on the Friendship Gate.

The operators of the mall told me they plan to reopen in mid-November.

[josefromtulsa]

I see CRoads being very valuable in 10 years or so once the commuter line starts up if they were to put a stop at CRoads. Its literally in one of the best spots for transportation to get around the city. You got the BNSF line, I-240, I-35, and Shields Blvd all nearby.

Imagine some nice transit oriented development and what could be done with the mostly industrial area around.

[HOT ROD]

I love the fact that Crossroads is reopening with a new life, but I still can't help but think the Asian mall and gate would have been better to have gone to Shepherd Mall; it's closer to the Asian District and the dense population base. Yes, crossroads will be a destination but I would love to see OKC get some synergy and critical mass that helps feed/sustain development rather than having hodge podge here and there that's likely doomed to fail.

Anyway, wishing Crossroads a HUGE success.

[Roger S]

it's closer to the Asian District and the dense population base.

I'm assuming by dense population base that you are accounting for all races but... Take a look at the latest census data and you'll see that the Asian population is higher on the south side of town than it is anywhere else.

There is already another unofficial Asian District on the south side in the 89th and Penn area and there are other Asian groceries, restaurants, and churches scattered all around the south side of I-240.

Then when you get to the Moore/Mid-Del area there is a strong Korean presence there.

[HOT ROD]

population density of the n-central city is the highest in the city for the size of the area.

Don't race bait. I do understand and appreciate that OKC is a diverse and integrated city. But if the 'mall' were in/near the Asian district it'd help make the area more of a destination - that was my point.

[Boop]

The friendship gate is what exactly?

[Pete]

The friendship gate is what exactly?

[Roger S]

Don't race bait. I do understand and appreciate that OKC is a diverse and integrated city. But if the 'mall' were in/near the Asian district it'd help make the area more of a destination - that was my point.

You might look up the meaning of "race bait" before attempting to use it as an insult next time.

My use of census data to counter your moot point was hardly encouraging racism or anger towards any race.

[HOT ROD]

I didn't use race bait as an insult, perhaps you might need to look up the definition since you're to touchy. Furthermore, only YOU think my point was moot.

[Roger S]

I didn't use race bait as an insult, perhaps you might need to look up the definition since you're to touchy. Furthermore, only YOU think my point was moot.

You're point is moot... The mall isn't in the Asian District... So there is only your speculation that it could be a destination.

I could make a moot point and say if the Asian District was around Crossroads Mall it could be a destination.... That statement having little or no practical relevance, typically because the subject is too uncertain to allow a decision is also moot.

As far as the term "race bait".... I used multiple words verbatim from the definition.

[bombermwc]

Personally, i think the space is going to be best served after dozing the thing down. I dont think you can find many examples of where a mall closed and then re-opened successfully. Yes, i'm sure there are a few, but in most cases i think you'll find that it doesn't happen. We've had what, 3 failed re-launches already.

Now that we know the industrial reserve is going to be developed, maybe the city should acquire this space for a new reserve. It's got highway and rail access. Crossroads Blvd is kind of dumb and the whole Pole Rd thing is weird. but if the city really wanted to, they could make that all better.

[Bunty]

Surely, the biggest reason why enclosed malls fail is because it's too costly to heat and cool them. Store owners don't want to pay the higher rent to cover those costs, so much prefer the cheaper rent of open strip malls. I would suggest enclosed malls try to save themselves by turning to solar, heat pumps and windmills to cover the cost of heating and cooling them.

[PaddyShack]

Personally, i think the space is going to be best served after dozing the thing down. I dont think you can find many examples of where a mall closed and then re-opened successfully. Yes, i'm sure there are a few, but in most cases i think you'll find that it doesn't happen. We've had what, 3 failed re-launches already.

Now that we know the industrial reserve is going to be developed, maybe the city should acquire this space for a new reserve. It's got highway and rail access. Crossroads Blvd is kind of dumb and the whole Pole Rd thing is weird. but if the city really wanted to, they could make that all better.

Where is this industrial reserve you are speaking of?

[David]

Where is this industrial reserve you are speaking of?

A new industrial park just to the east of Crossroads on the south side of I-240. Here's the OKCTalk thread: OKC 577 Industrial Reserve

[Boop]

Personally, i think the space is going to be best served after dozing the thing down. I dont think you can find many examples of where a mall closed and then re-opened successfully. Yes, i'm sure there are a few, but in most cases i think you'll find that it doesn't happen. We've had what, 3 failed re-launches already.

Now that we know the industrial reserve is going to be developed, maybe the city should acquire this space for a new reserve. It's got highway and rail access. Crossroads Blvd is kind of dumb and the whole Pole Rd thing is weird. but if the city really wanted to, they could make that all better.

I agree with that

[Jesseda]

The oklahoman is saying the the semi-pro football team OKC Wranglers is building a football arena on the Crossroads Mall Property.

[Pete]

It will be an 8,400-seat temporary facility that will be moved later.

It be in the southern part of the parking lot; likely in the southwest area as the other lots are owned by Santa Fe charter school.


There are several dozen very nice HS football stadiums in OKC. Not sure why they would want to build a temporary facility in a mall parking lot.

Especially since this league will be in the spring.