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    The friendship gate is what exactly?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boop View Post
    The friendship gate is what exactly?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HOT ROD View Post
    Don't race bait. I do understand and appreciate that OKC is a diverse and integrated city. But if the 'mall' were in/near the Asian district it'd help make the area more of a destination - that was my point.
    You might look up the meaning of "race bait" before attempting to use it as an insult next time.

    My use of census data to counter your moot point was hardly encouraging racism or anger towards any race.

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    I didn't use race bait as an insult, perhaps you might need to look up the definition since you're to touchy. Furthermore, only YOU think my point was moot.
    Oklahoma City, the RENAISSANCE CITY!

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    Quote Originally Posted by HOT ROD View Post
    I didn't use race bait as an insult, perhaps you might need to look up the definition since you're to touchy. Furthermore, only YOU think my point was moot.

    You're point is moot... The mall isn't in the Asian District... So there is only your speculation that it could be a destination.

    I could make a moot point and say if the Asian District was around Crossroads Mall it could be a destination.... That statement having little or no practical relevance, typically because the subject is too uncertain to allow a decision is also moot.

    As far as the term "race bait".... I used multiple words verbatim from the definition.

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    Personally, i think the space is going to be best served after dozing the thing down. I dont think you can find many examples of where a mall closed and then re-opened successfully. Yes, i'm sure there are a few, but in most cases i think you'll find that it doesn't happen. We've had what, 3 failed re-launches already.

    Now that we know the industrial reserve is going to be developed, maybe the city should acquire this space for a new reserve. It's got highway and rail access. Crossroads Blvd is kind of dumb and the whole Pole Rd thing is weird. but if the city really wanted to, they could make that all better.

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    Surely, the biggest reason why enclosed malls fail is because it's too costly to heat and cool them. Store owners don't want to pay the higher rent to cover those costs, so much prefer the cheaper rent of open strip malls. I would suggest enclosed malls try to save themselves by turning to solar, heat pumps and windmills to cover the cost of heating and cooling them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bombermwc View Post
    Personally, i think the space is going to be best served after dozing the thing down. I dont think you can find many examples of where a mall closed and then re-opened successfully. Yes, i'm sure there are a few, but in most cases i think you'll find that it doesn't happen. We've had what, 3 failed re-launches already.

    Now that we know the industrial reserve is going to be developed, maybe the city should acquire this space for a new reserve. It's got highway and rail access. Crossroads Blvd is kind of dumb and the whole Pole Rd thing is weird. but if the city really wanted to, they could make that all better.
    Where is this industrial reserve you are speaking of?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaddyShack View Post
    Where is this industrial reserve you are speaking of?
    A new industrial park just to the east of Crossroads on the south side of I-240. Here's the OKCTalk thread: OKC 577 Industrial Reserve

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    Quote Originally Posted by bombermwc View Post
    Personally, i think the space is going to be best served after dozing the thing down. I dont think you can find many examples of where a mall closed and then re-opened successfully. Yes, i'm sure there are a few, but in most cases i think you'll find that it doesn't happen. We've had what, 3 failed re-launches already.

    Now that we know the industrial reserve is going to be developed, maybe the city should acquire this space for a new reserve. It's got highway and rail access. Crossroads Blvd is kind of dumb and the whole Pole Rd thing is weird. but if the city really wanted to, they could make that all better.
    I agree with that

  11. #311

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    The oklahoman is saying the the semi-pro football team OKC Wranglers is building a football arena on the Crossroads Mall Property.

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    It will be an 8,400-seat temporary facility that will be moved later.

    It be in the southern part of the parking lot; likely in the southwest area as the other lots are owned by Santa Fe charter school.


    There are several dozen very nice HS football stadiums in OKC. Not sure why they would want to build a temporary facility in a mall parking lot.

    Especially since this league will be in the spring.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete View Post
    It will be an 8,400-seat temporary facility that will be moved later.

    It be in the southern part of the parking lot; likely in the southwest area as the other lots are owned by Santa Fe charter school.


    There are several dozen very nice HS football stadiums in OKC. Not sure why they would want to build a temporary facility in a mall parking lot.

    Especially since this league will be in the spring.
    oh wow, i wasnt able to read the article since I dont want to pay haha. That is odd to build a temp I was hoping for a nice size permanent stadium.

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    Wranglers to Play in Temporary Stadium



    Link: https://www.okcwranglers.com/news/wr...porary-stadium

    The UFL website https://www.uflfootball.com/home, a number of teams will be playing ^ in temporary stadiums using this same placeholder pictured above.

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    ^

    Ah, didn't realize it was arena league, which is why they can't use HS stadiums.

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    Why does the arena league want to play arena-league football outdoors. . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laramie View Post
    Why does the arena league want to play arena-league football outdoors. . .
    in spring.... in places that are known to have bad spring weather....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete View Post
    ^

    Ah, didn't realize it was arena league, which is why they can't use HS stadiums.
    This is not the Arena League. The Arena League played indoors and has been out of business since 2019. The UFL plays outside. Like the XFL this will be the third time a group launched an entity called the UFL. Like the XFL the 2 previous launches did not succeed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jersey Boss View Post
    This is not the Arena League. The Arena League played indoors and has been out of business since 2019. The UFL plays outside. Like the XFL this will be the third time a group launched an entity called the UFL. Like the XFL the 2 previous launches did not succeed.
    https://www.uflfootball.com/about

    The new United Football League is a United States-based spring football league that plays an outdoor-arena football brand of football from April to August.
    You can see by the image of the stadium this league does not play on a full-size football field, hence my point about not using existing high school stadiums.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete View Post
    https://www.uflfootball.com/about



    You can see by the image of the stadium this league does not play on a full-size football field, hence my point about not using existing high school stadiums.
    Will they tear out the concrete and play on grass or install some type of artificial turf?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeepnokc View Post
    Will they tear out the concrete and play on grass or install some type of artificial turf?
    I'm sure they just lay the artificial field over the pavement, with some sort of underlayment.

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    The field is sixty (60) yards (180 feet) long by thirty-four and one-third (34 1/3) yards (103 feet) wide.

    https://digitalshift-assets.sfo2.cdn...20Rulebook.pdf

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    ^

    That's only 10 yards longer than the arena league.

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    They are going to pay $1.1 million to build a temporary outdoor stadium for one year? Which has to be 10x more than it would cost to rent a similar sized indoor arena with the same sized field and out of the weather?

    What? Why?

  25. #325

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete View Post
    It will be an 8,400-seat temporary facility that will be moved later.

    It be in the southern part of the parking lot; likely in the southwest area as the other lots are owned by Santa Fe charter school.


    There are several dozen very nice HS football stadiums in OKC. Not sure why they would want to build a temporary facility in a mall parking lot.

    Especially since this league will be in the spring.
    So they are going to pay 1.1 million and play for 1 year and move to another location? That makes zero sense and that is a huge waste of 1.1 million

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