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    Quote Originally Posted by mugofbeer View Post
    Wouldn't this fact invalidate any claim from Cusack that the value of that parcel is remotely close to the amount being asked?
    Not necessarily. maybe a lawyer can clarify this better or set me straight, but municipal takings like this one are different than State takings (ODOT, OTA, etc.). O.S. 11, Section 22-104 says

    Every municipality shall have the right to: . . . 3. Exercise the right of eminent domain for any municipal purpose, within or without its corporate limits, and to establish, lay, and operate any plant or pipeline upon any land or right-of-way taken pursuant to eminent domain. Any business or profession which is affected by the right of eminent domain as exercised pursuant to the provisions of this section shall be considered as a property right of the owner thereof and proper allowance therefor shall be made; (Bold for emphasis)

    In takings by the State, damages to the business are not compensatory. Therefore, it is my understanding in this instance, if Cusack's has a good argument that their business is damaged or rendered unfeasible at that location, it is less about the value of the real estate. Rather, what is the cost to cure the existing building deficiencies or relocated the business to a substitute property with equal utility on top of compensation for a loss of business income.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T. Jamison View Post
    Not necessarily. maybe a lawyer can clarify this better or set me straight, but municipal takings like this one are different than State takings (ODOT, OTA, etc.). O.S. 11, Section 22-104 says

    Every municipality shall have the right to: . . . 3. Exercise the right of eminent domain for any municipal purpose, within or without its corporate limits, and to establish, lay, and operate any plant or pipeline upon any land or right-of-way taken pursuant to eminent domain. Any business or profession which is affected by the right of eminent domain as exercised pursuant to the provisions of this section shall be considered as a property right of the owner thereof and proper allowance therefor shall be made; (Bold for emphasis)

    In takings by the State, damages to the business are not compensatory. Therefore, it is my understanding in this instance, if Cusack's has a good argument that their business is damaged or rendered unfeasible at that location, it is less about the value of the real estate. Rather, what is the cost to cure the existing building deficiencies or relocated the business to a substitute property with equal utility on top of compensation for a loss of business income.
    this is correct they were going to argue that their business couldn't continue in the current location with out his lot for trucks to back in to deliver/pick up ..

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    The drive north on Robinson Avenue from Wiley Post Park, you can see the construction of the remaining acres of lower Scissortail Park to the upper park--with Skydance Bridge and as you cross over I-40 it leads you to the circle right in front of our beautiful new convention center and Omni Hotel. Beautiful sight to see. Now the remains of the old hub cap & muffler shops to the right of your drive is a grim reminder of the grave yard of activity that use to be a vibrant hub cap alley.

    If you're in Capitol Hill visit Coney Island 240 S. W. 25th Street (across from old John A. Browns) some of the best hot dogs with chili & onions and a selection of pasta dishes--well worth your trip.

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    Vibrant? Do we have pics of this vibrant hubcap alley? Legit curious to see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shawnw View Post
    Vibrant? Do we have pics of this vibrant hubcap alley? Legit curious to see.
    ...use to be

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    I hope they can get the grass established before the July/August heat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laramie View Post
    ...use to be
    I understood that part, still curious if there are pics, historic or othereise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Canoe View Post
    I hope they can get the grass established before the July/August heat.
    +1.

    Thanks for the pics and the updates Pete.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shawnw View Post
    I understood that part, still curious if there are pics, historic or othereise.
    http://oliveweb-02.newsok.com/Defaul...&ViewMode=HTML

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    cool, thanks!

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    From today (Wednesday). The camera on my drone is messed up which is why the photos look weird.








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    when is the south end suppose to open?

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    Does anyone know what that little patch of dirt is in the lake in that last pic? I've walked by it several times and I've been wondering.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shartel_ave View Post
    when is the south end suppose to open?
    This fall

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    Whatever happened with the proposed feather sculpture that was supposed to go in the corner of the park by the Omni?

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    Quote Originally Posted by therhett17 View Post
    Whatever happened with the proposed feather sculpture that was supposed to go in the corner of the park by the Omni?
    I asked about this and was told it was in fabrication.

    I believe it will be installed later in the year.

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    Some better photos from yesterday (Saturday 5/14).








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    https://twitter.com/hillcienda/statu...15982923554816

    Update at yesterday’s OKC Arts Commission meeting: The “Light As A Feather” sculpture is scheduled for installation in September. Cool addition to OKC’s public arts collection.

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    Did anyone get to see Amythyst Kiah as the sissortail park? I missed this concert on the 8th.

    This weekend is LeAnn Rimes if anyone is interested.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Canoe View Post
    Did anyone get to see Amythyst Kiah as the sissortail park? I missed this concert on the 8th.

    This weekend is LeAnn Rimes if anyone is interested.
    I did. She was very good. Unfortunately there were some sound issues that hopefully get ironed out the more frequently they do these. Also, she had to pause and wait for some ATVs to drive past during a solo acoustic song....

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3nglnd View Post
    I did. She was very good. Unfortunately there were some sound issues that hopefully get ironed out the more frequently they do these. Also, she had to pause and wait for some ATVs to drive past during a solo acoustic song....
    Those ATVs are quite loud when they go past downtown/Bricktown. I don't know if it is a tour company or just the same private users. I am not sure I am a fan of the unlimited ATV usage on streets quite yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaddyShack View Post
    Those ATVs are quite loud when they go past downtown/Bricktown. I don't know if it is a tour company or just the same private users. I am not sure I am a fan of the unlimited ATV usage on streets quite yet.
    I think it's some sort of private club. Earlier that day they were riding on the river trails which was annoying and unsafe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shawnw View Post
    I think it's some sort of private club. Earlier that day they were riding on the river trails which was annoying and unsafe.
    I was driving near downtown on Saturday 5/7 and they blew through a red light. Since there were at least 100 (maybe 200+?) ATVs and dirt bikes, I just sat there as my light was green and watched them go through. Took awhile and was pretty annoying/unsafe.

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