OAK (formerly Penn Central)

[HangryHippo]

Based on that sign rendering, it looks like they'll be paying attention to the details.

[BoulderSooner]

These detailed plans show the sign that will be located at the corner of Penn & NW Expressway.

Also, it now shows they plan to demolish part of the Registry building for the new alignment of NW 50th. You can also see the area south of 50th will be (what I assume is temporary) parking lot.

it will be interesting to follow but it looks like they are going to demo that entire building and that parking south of 50th will be build to stay long term

[Pete]

Some very good news: the plans for the hotel are out for bid.

Looks very similar to all the renderings we've seen and shows a large bar and restaurant on the ground floor facing south, and three large retail bays facing the central area to the west.

The 2nd level will include a large hotel bar and restaurant and open to a big outdoor patio also facing inward toward the rest of the development. There will be a pool on this level at the north end.

In that second image, all the retail and restaurant space is shown as hollowed out; will be leased to other operators.

Not sure of the operator of the hotel but it all looks very nice so I'm sure it will be a luxury or near-luxury flag.

There are 3 pad sites along NW Expressway that should be built around the same time as the apartments and hotel, which means everything north of NW 50th will be largely complete in this first phase.

[Rover]

A little disappointed the hotel renderings show through the wall Hvac. That usually means it’s not a very upscale property. It’s the cheaper way to go. Also way less energy efficient. At this location one would hope for a more polished property.

[MagzOK]

Where do you see 'through the wall' HVAC? Those squares on the outside of the building? I interpreted that to just be exterior design. But I don't know, I'm not in that industry.

[Pete]

On the bid plans, those boxes are labeled as 'VTAC Louvers"; which indicates Terminal Air Conditioner and/or heat pump.

And that is a through-the-wall system.

[MagzOK]

On the bid plans, those boxes are labeled as 'VTAC Louvers"; which indicates Terminal Air Conditioner and/or heat pump.

And that is a through-the-wall system.

Thank you very much. You know how some of these buildings just have different colored bricks or stone for designs, etc. quite frankly i just don't know any better when it comes to that kind of stuff.

[Urbanized]

^^^^^^^
Rover is a very trustworthy source related to HVAC trade

[tvkokc]

Perhaps its the base bid with ad alternate to be a fancier style system based on availability of the units for the start of construction? I'm not by any means an HVAC person, I work with dirt

[soonerguru]

A little disappointed the hotel renderings show through the wall Hvac. That usually means it’s not a very upscale property. It’s the cheaper way to go. Also way less energy efficient. At this location one would hope for a more polished property.

Ugh.

[Rover]

Perhaps its the base bid with ad alternate to be a fancier style system based on availability of the units for the start of construction? I'm not by any means an HVAC person, I work with dirt

Since the current system spec’d involves actually putting a whole in the building for each and every unit, alternate central systems would require changes to the actual construction. Central chilled/hot water hvac systems are internal to the walls.

And buildings are almost always “value engineered” down, not up.

[tvkokc]

Since the current system spec’d involves actually putting a whole in the building for each and every unit, alternate central systems would require changes to the actual construction. Central chilled/hot water hvac systems are internal to the walls.

And buildings are almost always “value engineered” down, not up.

Very true about VEs, I've seen it a few times but usually not happening during construction. Just figured I'd ask though, it happens to me on the civil side of things frequently enough.

[Rover]

Very true about VEs, I've seen it a few times but usually not happening during construction. Just figured I'd ask though, it happens to me on the civil side of things frequently enough.

VE is usually done when bids come in and aggregate to an amount larger than the budget amount. Re-design/engineering then and alternate systems bid. Overruns in some areas can lead to VE in others.

[warreng88]

Drove by yesterday and had a small fenced in area on the west side of Penn, just north of 50th. Not sure how big, but didn’t look big enough for a pad site. Any idea what that is for?

[Pete]

Drove by yesterday and had a small fenced in area on the west side of Penn, just north of 50th. Not sure how big, but didn’t look big enough for a pad site. Any idea what that is for?

It's to protect the few existing oak trees.

[soonermike81]

I noticed that as well. I was driving and was at a bad angle, but looked like there was one tree that was outside the fenced area. Poor guy didn’t make the cut.

[David]

I noticed that as well. I was driving and was at a bad angle, but looked like there was one tree that was outside the fenced area. Poor guy didn’t make the cut.

On the contrary it sounds like he's the only one that's going to eventually get the cut.

[Pete]

This photo shows the fence near Penn:

[Urbanized]

Looks like there appear to be two trees outside of the fence. The one nearest the camera (and possibly the other one outside of the fence) appears to be in poor health, so that might have been a deciding factor also. R.I.P., trees!

[HOT ROD]

to bad the trees can't be moved or repurposed.

[Pete]

The developer told me that in order to accommodate the new alignment of NW 50th as shown below, the eastern third of the Registry building (which is rectangular) will be demolished.

Then, over the next couple of years as the existing tenants relocate, they'll demolish the rest.

[shawnw]

So weird, let's just go ahead and demolish part of this occupied building to make way for a street we can't not have for a bit. Spend the money to buy them out of their leases or something, jesus.

[Rover]

So weird, let's just go ahead and demolish part of this occupied building to make way for a street we can't not have for a bit. Spend the money to buy them out of their leases or something, jesus.

So, do you know something about the logistics and project management of this project? Do you think they are just doing this for the heck of it? Just curious as to your objection.

[Bellaboo]

There is actually a state agency in that building. It's a small one though.

[Pete]

A building permit application has been filed for the hotel.

Plans reveal the operator will be Gatehouse Capital which is based in Dallas and has a large hotel portfolio: https://www.gatehousecapital.com/

It will be called The Hotel at Oak and be part of the Tapestry Collection by Hilton, a first for the state: https://www.hilton.com/en/tapestry/


They have started to mark out the new alignment for NW 50th and work on the hotel should coincide with the apartments and first phase of restaurants and retail. Drone photo is from yesterday: