Over the air TV and sub-channels

[Roger S]

How many channels did you get after rescanning?

I don't remember off the top of my head and I walked off while it was scanning so I didn't see the final count but I'd say I was in the 60-70 range.... Getting a lot of duplicates in the area too... I know I have multiple channels of DABL, GRIT, and Court TV now and a couple of others that slip my mind.

Something else I find odd is that channel 9 hasn't jumped on the bandwagon. They only offer 9-2 and it just shows rebroadcasts of the most recent news broadcast. All of the other local stations, including PBS, have multiple sub-channels offering different programming.

[Dob Hooligan]

I don't remember off the top of my head and I walked off while it was scanning so I didn't see the final count but I'd say I was in the 60-70 range.... Getting a lot of duplicates in the area too... I know I have multiple channels of DABL, GRIT, and Court TV now and a couple of others that slip my mind.

Something else I find odd is that channel 9 hasn't jumped on the bandwagon. They only offer 9-2 and it just shows rebroadcasts of the most recent news broadcast. All of the other local stations, including PBS, have multiple sub-channels offering different programming.

Remember channel 9 owns channel 52 now. I think they put the Scripps block of sub channels on 52 a couple years ago after they bought one or more radio stations in Tulsa from Scripps IIRC. however, I think Scripps bought ION TV since then and that is why Bounce and GRIT are on both 52 and 63.

[Roger S]

Remember channel 9 owns channel 52 now. I think they put the Scripps block of sub channels on 52 a couple years ago after they bought one or more radio stations in Tulsa from Scripps IIRC. however, I think Scripps bought ION TV since then and that is why Bounce and GRIT are on both 52 and 63.

Ahhhhh.... Yeah, I forgot that 52 had been bought by 9.

[scottk]

Something else I find odd is that channel 9 hasn't jumped on the bandwagon. They only offer 9-2 and it just shows rebroadcasts of the most recent news broadcast. All of the other local stations, including PBS, have multiple sub-channels offering different programming.

NEWS9 recently upgraded the over the air signal quality of 9.2, it's less compressed. I'm not technical, but basically it looks like they went from 480p widescreen to 720p , it's not as clean as their main signal for news, but much better than what it was. I still see many businesses running 9.2 in their lobby or coffee shop style setting. It's a quick way to get a detailed local weather forecast and catch up on headlines. (and it doesn't really costs much for News 9 to operate compared to the syndicated programs on other sub channels)
I wish KFOR and KOCO would do a similar news on demand sub channel. KFOR and KOCO use to have 24/7 weather on their sub channels, but that went away years ago.

[Dob Hooligan]

NEWS9 recently upgraded the over the air signal quality of 9.2, it's less compressed. I'm not technical, but basically it looks like they went from 480p widescreen to 720p , it's not as clean as their main signal for news, but much better than what it was. I still see many businesses running 9.2 in their lobby or coffee shop style setting. It's a quick way to get a detailed local weather forecast and catch up on headlines. (and it doesn't really costs much for News 9 to operate compared to the syndicated programs on other sub channels)
I wish KFOR and KOCO would do a similar news on demand sub channel. KFOR and KOCO use to have 24/7 weather on their sub channels, but that went away years ago.

This kinda off in the weeds, but I wonder if channel 9 owner Griffin Communications made a deal with Cox when sub-channels first started along the lines of-

Griffin will provide 24 hour local news in exchange for an enhanced placement in the basic package and lower channel number. This is how we have it on channel 53 on Cox, while the other local sub-channels were in the 200s until the last couple years. Even though some of the sub-channels are in the 100s on Cox nowadays, it still is a challenging and fragmented area of the lineup.

[scottk]

This kinda off in the weeds, but I wonder if channel 9 owner Griffin Communications made a deal with Cox when sub-channels first started along the lines of-

Griffin will provide 24 hour local news in exchange for an enhanced placement in the basic package and lower channel number. This is how we have it on channel 53 on Cox, while the other local sub-channels were in the 200s until the last couple years. Even though some of the sub-channels are in the 100s on Cox nowadays, it still is a challenging and fragmented area of the lineup.

Before Digital TV was main stream and sub channels were common, and when everyone still had cable...KWTV partnered with COX in 1996 to provide NewsNow53, which was placed on channel 53 on the analog COX cable system. It was originally only in OKC, but when the Multimedia Cablevision and Cox merger happened , News Now 53 spread out to the suburbs. A similar agreement occured in Tulsa with Griffin's KOTV and a looping newscast channel.

25 years later and News Now 53 is News 9 Now, but COX keeps it at channel 53...because well...it's always been that way. Same reason KOCO 5 remains at Channel 8 on the COX lineup, it's bleed over from the analog days when 5 on the cable system didn't look as good as channel 8, same could be said for FOX on channel 12 instead of 25. Which is where the "basic cable" lineup would drop out.