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Thread: Covid-19 in OKC (coronavirus)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete View Post
    The City Council meeting turned into an embarrassing circus.

    Carol and Robert Hefner (who are anti-vaccine and said they used ivermectin to treat their Covid) and a group they organized shouted down the discussion about the mask ordinance to the point where police officers had to get involved.

    I simply can't believe the divide in this city/state/country.
    It was extremely embarrassing. Carol and Robert Hefner should be ashamed of themselves for being unabashed liars. She claimed that her husband has cancer, didn't take the vaccine, instead took Ivermectin, and now has a stronger immune system than anyone she's seen. She's lost her mind--and she perfectly encapsulates the majority of the people that were there.

    There was another person who threatened the mayor and was clearly hoping the police officer tried to expel him so he could fight.

    The City-County public health expert, who has over 30 years of experience in public health, got shouted down and heckled when he dared to speak the truth that the vaccine is highly effective.

    On the YouTube live stream, there were dozens of commenters calling Mayor Holt, James Cooper, Nikki Nice, and Jo Beth Hammon traitors and saying they need to be removed.

    It's not just that we are a divided people. We are. It's also that a substantial portion of our people live in a fantasy world, have rejected the basic principles of a polite society, and are therefore willing to become violent in order to protect their fantasy, which is contributing to the deterioration of our culture and civil society.

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    Quote Originally Posted by king183 View Post
    It was extremely embarrassing. Carol and Robert Hefner should be ashamed of themselves for being unabashed liars. She claimed that her husband has cancer, didn't take the vaccine, instead took Ivermectin, and now has a stronger immune system than anyone she's seen. She's lost her mind--and she perfectly encapsulates the majority of the people that were there.

    There was another person who threatened the mayor and was clearly hoping the police officer tried to expel him so he could fight.

    The City-County public health expert, who has over 30 years of experience in public health, got shouted down and heckled when he dared to speak the truth that the vaccine is highly effective.

    On the YouTube live stream, there were dozens of commenters calling Mayor Holt, James Cooper, Nikki Nice, and Jo Beth Hammon traitors and saying they need to be removed.

    It's not just that we are a divided people. We are. It's also that a substantial portion of our people live in a fantasy world, have rejected the basic principles of a polite society, and are therefore willing to become violent in order to protect their fantasy, which is contributing to the deterioration of our culture and civil society.
    Wow! Just wow! I almost hate to say my wife and I were pretty good friends of the Hefner family. Watched the kids grow up. But we haven't seen them in a number of years which right now I'm pretty happy about. I can't believe the Hefners I knew have become like this.

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    Every time I watch one of these I start looking at homes in other states. I'm getting tired.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Robertson View Post
    Wow! Just wow! I almost hate to say my wife and I were pretty good friends of the Hefner family. Watched the kids grow up. But we haven't seen them in a number of years which right now I'm pretty happy about. I can't believe the Hefners I knew have become like this.
    Just look at her Facebook page or read one of the many Lost Ogle articles about her.

  5. #11255

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete View Post
    City council votes down the mask mandate 4 votes to 5; they needed 7 to pass.

    https://www.oklahoman.com/story/news...id/5655867001/
    keep in mind a 5-4 vote would have passed this also ... it just wouldn't have gone into effect right away ..

  6. #11256

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    The 4 'yes' votes were Hamon, Cooper, Nice and Holt.

    The other 5 all voted against it.

  7. #11257

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    Quote Originally Posted by FighttheGoodFight View Post
    Every time I watch one of these I start looking at homes in other states. I'm getting tired.
    I started to feel that way last summer when I was real active in the fight for a mask mandate in Edmond, after sitting through all the crazy council meetings... until I started seeing videos from other states and I realized that crazy and ignorant isn't limited to geography. The only thing that really made me feel better is that I noticed it was the same, very loud, very obnoxious dozen or so anti-science nuts at all the meetings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoulderSooner View Post
    keep in mind a 5-4 vote would have passed this also ... it just wouldn't have gone into effect right away ..
    this is not the entire story ... if this had passed 5-4 or 6-3 it would have expired the same day it started ... so really it did need 7 votes ...

  9. #11259

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete View Post
    The 4 'yes' votes were Hamon, Cooper, Nice and Holt.

    The other 5 all voted against it.
    cooper moved to extend the date for the mask requirement to end NOV 1st instead of Oct 1 ( that was voted down 6-3 ) hamon nice cooper were the yes votes

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete View Post
    Just look at her Facebook page or read one of the many Lost Ogle articles about her.
    She became scary. Last time I saw them was probably 2010ish. If she was like this then I completely missed it. I wouldn't hang out with them now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Robertson View Post
    She became scary. Last time I saw them was probably 2010ish. If she was like this then I completely missed it. I wouldn't hang out with them now.
    I noticed family members going off the deep end in about the last two Obama years as they started to get addicted to Facebook and YouTube conspiracies. I am sure it has only grown from there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoulderSooner View Post
    this is not the entire story ... if this had passed 5-4 or 6-3 it would have expired the same day it started ... so really it did need 7 votes ...
    Cooper tried to amend it but that was voted down. Disgusted with these bullying morons. It is a clown circus.

    NEVER MIND. I see your post above.

  13. #11263

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    There are a whole bunch of idiots out there. I guess the delta variant will take care of some of them.

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    After seeing these comments I went online to watch it. The audience reminded me of the bar scene in Star Wars.

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    The Hefners used to live in my neighborhood. Our neighborhood FB page was highly entertaining to say the least

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard at Remax View Post
    The Hefners used to live in my neighborhood. Our neighborhood FB page was highly entertaining to say the least
    At what point does "highly entertaining" become "dangerous" (assuming you're talking about posts by the Hefners)? I'd say that line has been crossed...

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    Quote Originally Posted by king183 View Post
    It was extremely embarrassing. Carol and Robert Hefner should be ashamed of themselves for being unabashed liars. She claimed that her husband has cancer, didn't take the vaccine, instead took Ivermectin, and now has a stronger immune system than anyone she's seen. She's lost her mind--and she perfectly encapsulates the majority of the people that were there.
    He definitely did have Stage 4 Esophageal Cancer a few years ago though the last I'd heard, he's been in remission for a year or two (which hopefully is still the case). Knowing them, I'm sure the claim that they didn't take the vaccine is also true. The rest obviously is wildly speculative at best LOL. Didn't watch the meeting but it sounds like a three ring circus. Some general civility would go a long way though it seems that's been largely missing from society for awhile now.

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    Mayor Holt shared these two graphs at a presser today:






  20. #11270

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    Quote Originally Posted by FighttheGoodFight View Post
    Every time I watch one of these I start looking at homes in other states. I'm getting tired.
    With much research, I think you'd be almost as disappointed in most states, countries, etc. You just live here and see it everyday.

  21. #11271

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    Yep, and they still just don't get it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhiAlpha View Post
    With much research, I think you'd be almost as disappointed in most states, countries, etc. You just live here and see it everyday.
    We are still in the bottom 10 in vaccination rate.

    There are morons everywhere, but on this subject there is a higher percentage in Oklahoma than almost any state.

  23. #11273

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete View Post
    We are still in the bottom 10 in vaccination rate.

    There are morons everywhere, but on this subject there is a higher percentage in Oklahoma than almost any state.
    Hey! On the bright side, as of yesterday we're not bottom 10 anymore! So maybe it's getting better.

    39th in 18+ fully vaccinated (54.7%) and 35th in 18+ with at least one shot (65.9%)

    The latter stat seems to indicate a reasonable increase in vaccinations over the last few weeks.

    https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...ine-doses.html

  24. #11274

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    ^

    Did you ever get vaccinated?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheTravellers View Post
    At what point does "highly entertaining" become "dangerous" (assuming you're talking about posts by the Hefners)? I'd say that line has been crossed...
    At that time they were crazy but pretty harmless. They morphed into what they are now after they left our neighborhood thank goodness.

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