Covid-19 in OKC (coronavirus)

[catch22]

Has your union taken an official stance on the vaccine mandates? Just curious how/if this has factored into the collective bargaining process.

The pilots and flight attendants union are in full support of the mandate. The union I am in that represents ground workers (customer service, ramp, stores (parts stock for maintenance)) has taken the stance that it is not a winnable fight. The company is within their right in all 50 states. They will of course still file a grievance for every termination as that is what they are paid to do, and it basically keeps the door open for terminations to be reversed if some future court ruling allows for that. But the union has basically told us to get vaccinated or there is a high chance of termination even with a reasonable accommodation appeal.

Here is their memo today for your reading pleasure:
https://iam141.org/vaccine-requireme...T2-zwBrZ5s5VgM

My union membership is a bit more split on the issue as it is a more politically mixed union than others; so their statement is treading lightly on that fact.

[turnpup]

The pilots and flight attendants union are in full support of the mandate. The union I am in that represents ground workers (customer service, ramp, stores (parts stock for maintenance)) has taken the stance that it is not a winnable fight. The company is within their right in all 50 states. They will of course still file a grievance for every termination as that is what they are paid to do, and it basically keeps the door open for terminations to be reversed if some future court ruling allows for that. But the union has basically told us to get vaccinated or there is a high chance of termination even with a reasonable accommodation appeal.

Here is their memo today for your reading pleasure:
https://iam141.org/vaccine-requireme...T2-zwBrZ5s5VgM

My union membership is a bit more split on the issue as it is a more politically mixed union than others; so their statement is treading lightly on that fact.

Thank you! Having done collective bargaining in another industry years ago, I'm always interested in this type of thing.

[BoulderSooner]

Actually, Saturday, Sunday, Monday.

what the numbers posted this morning .. are from positive tests this morning??

[Pete]

what the numbers posted this morning .. are from positive tests this morning??

No, but numbers are reported on Friday.

So, the 3-day period on Mondays are for Saturday, Sunday and Monday.


We are saying the same thing, just trying to clarify.

[BoulderSooner]

No, but numbers are reported on Friday.

So, the 3-day period on Mondays are for Saturday, Sunday and Monday.


We are saying the same thing, just trying to clarify.

roger i see what you are saying ...

[soonerguru]

I think our company is moving in that direction. They are already requiring it to visit any of our locations. Hopefully the Pfizer approval will move them to act. So many of our colleagues work remotely but they still visit clients. From a liability perspective, it makes sense to have our remote workers who visit clients get the vaccine, if not our data people and support people who work exclusively from home.

[BDP]

Unvaccinated Americans hospitalized with COVID-19 cost the U.S. health care system $2.3 billion in June and July: report

The cost of preventable hospitalizations is ‘borne not only by patients but also by society more broadly,’ the report says

[catcherinthewry]

What will be the next anti-Covid vax hill to die on now that the FDA has given Pfizer full approval (as opposed to the Emergency approval they granted earlier)? Will be interesting to see how the goalposts are moved.

Fox News has already moved them. They had one of their blonde Fox News Barbies on earlier today asking if the process was rushed.

[soonerguru]

Fox News has already moved them. They had one of their blonde Fox News Barbies on earlier today asking if the process was rushed.

LOL of course. And if we didn't get approval by the end of the year, they would be asking, "Why is the Biden Administration taking so long to get FDA approval on the vaccines????"

[OKCretro]

Question,

has there been any report of people getting the virus twice? I feel like i haven't seen more than a few handful of cases.

[DowntownMan]

6,218 new cases for the 3-day period; last several Mondays: 6,967; 6,328; 5,597; 3,669; 2,126; 1,211; 1,041; 580.

7-day average down slightly to 2,113.

Hospitalizations are 1,469 (-18).

ICU is 404 (+6).

Mayor Holt posted a graph that showed the potential sign that we might have peaked for now. I had guessed given trends elsewhere we would peak by end of August. I’m hoping that is what happens.

[king183]

Question,

has there been any report of people getting the virus twice? I feel like i haven't seen more than a few handful of cases.

Yes, there have been many reports of people getting he virus twice, especially among the unvaccinated.

[OKCbyTRANSFER]

My company (United) will be requiring vaccines for all employees by October. Amazing how many people are throwing a fit about it and are prepared to be terminated because they don’t want to get it. It’s a well paying, union job with great benefits. Just get the vaccine!

I'm hearing the same at my place, federal government job. People ready to give it up over a vaccine.

[PhiAlpha]

Yes, there have been many reports of people getting he virus twice, especially among the unvaccinated.

Reinfection is still pretty rare at around 1% or below for people previously infected. As with other viruses, the reinfections have been mostly mild similar to most vaccine breakthrough cases, even those caused by the delta and other variants (obviously there have been even more rare severe cases in both categories, which really sucks to put it mildly). That said the CDC just released a study that says you're 2.34 times less likely to be reinfected with a dose or two of one of the vaccines which good to hear regardless of the low reinfection rate.

https://www.npr.org/2021/08/01/10233...9-reinfections

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/...cid=mm7032e1_w

[soonerguru]

I'm hearing the same at my place, federal government job. People ready to give it up over a vaccine.

I imagine there would be a lot of qualified applicants for a plum federal government job. So, hope they enjoy their boycott.

[Plutonic Panda]

I’m starting to wonder if life is even real at this point and I died awhile ago and God is just messing with me:

https://kfor.com/news/local/do-not-t...t-consumption/

[king183]

I’m starting to wonder if life is even real at this point and I died awhile ago and God is just messing with me:

https://kfor.com/news/local/do-not-t...t-consumption/

Natural selection.

[Roger S]

I’m starting to wonder if life is even real at this point and I died awhile ago and God is just messing with me:

Well at least they won't have to worry about dying from heartworms.

[Canoe]

I’m starting to wonder if life is even real at this point and I died awhile ago and God is just messing with me:

https://kfor.com/news/local/do-not-t...t-consumption/

You can check in, but you can never check out. Welcome to the hotel Oklahoma. Such a lovely place, panda has such a lovely face.

[Martin]

Well at least they won't have to worry about dying from heartworms.

personally, i prefer the collar over the pills. as plus, it also repels fleas and ticks. : )

[jccouger]

All those poor horses & cows who are gonna die from heartworms because they won't have medicine.

[Bill Robertson]

I just read a post saying another person I know died of COVID. A man I had immense respect and admiration for. Below is an excerpt from the post announcing his death.

"In these crazy times we live in with the politics and health issues we face every day I want to relate this part of his story. He didn’t want to get the vaccine. Not because he didn’t think it would work but because he didn’t want a government telling him what he should do.
One of the last conversations he had with my wife was about the shot.
He said, “I wish I had got the shot. “
Think about that".

Get the damn shot!

[Pete]

1,794 new cases reported today. Last several Tuesdays: 862; 1,136; 946; 733; 465; 177.

7-day average continues to climb at 2,246.

Hospitalizations are 1,497 (+28).

ICU is 410 (+6).


Thus far, we are +183 in new cases as compared to the same period last week.

[PoliSciGuy]

Ugh, well that was a fun 24 hours thinking we were on the downslope...

[Pete]

Schools are just starting full-bore for the first time in well over a year.

And packed football stadiums will be coming soon, as will cooler weather.


The numbers are way, way higher than they were at the same time last year and we still have the holidays and winter ahead.

A year ago, our 7-day new case average was 687 as opposed to our current 2,246.