Covid-19 in OKC (coronavirus)

[Roger S]

Our Media is horrible. On a side note what happen to RSV.

I'm not Nostradamus but due to less frequent masking I predict we have the winter this year we all expected last year.... Covid along with a severe flu, RSV, adenovirus season..... I'm already prepared to go into bear mode and hibernate until spring..... It was a fun couple of months while it lasted.

[PoliSciGuy]

RSV is already raging (and is part of reason why pediatric ICU beds are filling up). I'm actually morbidly optimistic about COVID this fall/winter, since Delta is essentially inoculating a large swathe of the unvaccinated, and EUAs for child vaccines should be coming down the pipe soon. Barring a new, much-more immune evasive variant, the super vulnerable population to COVID has shrunk significantly over the last month. In the UK for example, over 90% of the population has antibodies even though only 75% are fully vaccinated. They're going to be the canary in the coal mine when it comes to future waves (just as they were with Delta).

[Canoe]

I've been living in SE Asia since covid hit and where I live kids will slap your butt and grab your crotch. They act a lot crazier and unruly than any kids I've seen in America and yet kids wear mask in schools. Trust me on this plenty of 5 years old wear mask here and my nephew who is like 3 wears a mask too. If someone can get unruly kids in developing SE Asia who go around grabbing adult men's crotch to a wear a mask then obviously the same can be done for American kids.

I guess it depends on how authoritarian you wish to be with the children. I am not an advocate for using that type of power in the quantity required to force other people's children into universal compliance.

[Mott]

Just curious, maybe I’ve missed something, but why are there no daily numbers anymore?

[Midtowner]

Posting this just to say it’s not just one political party not getting shots.

There are strong correlations to political party.

https://www.kff.org/coronavirus-covi...february-2021/

In the above survey conducted in Febuary, 75% of Democrats had already received at least one shot or planned to as soon as it was available versus 35% of Republicans.

But I helped him out. Told him where to go. And how to get shot and explained the different brands of shots and the minor differences on them and showed how practically all hospitalized are unvaccinated and virtually all Icu and ventilator cases are unvaccinated. Got him onboard.

I've done the same--when I do consulations with clients, I've been asking them if they've been vaccinated yet, and have directed them to where they may be vaccinated. Even signed some up back when you had to sign up.

[Midtowner]

I guess it depends on how authoritarian you wish to be with the children. I am not an advocate for using that type of power in the quantity required to force other people's children into universal compliance.

We already tell them what skirt length is appropriate, when boys can wear shorts, spaghetti straps, midriff, etc. Been doing it for years. Pretty sure putting something over their face would be fine if parents weren't such snowflakes about it.

[dankrutka]

Our Media is horrible.

Who even knows what this means? There are thousands of media outlets. I've been able to follow top notch coverage of the pandemic throughout. It depends on your sources. If you think the media is terrible then maybe try some other sources.

[dankrutka]

I guess it depends on how authoritarian you wish to be with the children. I am not an advocate for using that type of power in the quantity required to force other people's children into universal compliance.

Lol. You're just throwing in the word "authoritarian" in to try to make your point. Again, for many adults, this is more about their beliefs than anything kids believe. In the U.S. we force kids to go to school for 8 hours a day for 12 years, learn stuff they don't want, and obey a huge number of rules, many of which don't make sense and actually cause different harms. Yet, wearing masks so their teacher doesn't die during a pandemic is where you draw the line. Lol. That is a comical version of authoritarianism.

[dankrutka]

If you are angry with anti-vax caricatures who won't get a shot no matter what, read this newsletter post by Zeynep Tufekci. She makes a really compelling case that the unvaccinated are far more complex than often pictures. This is important to remember in discussions, policies, and efforts.

[kukblue1]

Who even knows what this means? There are thousands of media outlets. I've been able to follow top notch coverage of the pandemic throughout. It depends on your sources. If you think the media is terrible then maybe try some other sources.

https://www.poynter.org/ethics-trust...-report-finds/ It means no one trust our media and like you said there are thousands all with their own agenda. Anything for clicks.

[d-usa]

We talked about RSV in June, because there was a really high amount of RSV in June.

The majority of childhood respiratory diseases usually seen during the winter months were almost completely absent, same as influenza for adults. That trend persisted for kids until the end of school since masking was still prevalent. As soon as school was over, masking was reduced, and more mixing between groups happened with camps and mixing of groups these diseases spread rapidly. Instead of a busy RSV season in winter we had a busy RSV season in June.

Almost every single post by kukblue1 in this thread has been a version of “I’m not anti-mask/anti-vac/pro-conspiracy. But here is this other stuff. I don’t know though, not saying anything, just asking questions”

[soonerguru]

Our Media is horrible. On a side note what happen to RSV. I remember the media going crazy all the kids in the hospital for RSV in June and I said to a friend is it RSV or Covid. Why are they not saying it's covid. Well covid cases were really low. Now it's time for school and it's all covid. What happen to RSV? Really google search RSV and you will see in June it was all the media was talking about. https://www.healthline.com/health-ne...rsv-are-rising

Man, this has already been addressed up thread. There are two things happening: pediatric cases of Covid and pediatric cases of RSV. NOTE: my nephew has RSV.

You seem ridiculous posting this nonsense. The state health department is reporting on Covid pediatric cases. So, the rise in RSV cases is a separate issue. Both are leading to pediatric hospitalizations.

[Canoe]

Lol. You're just throwing in the word "authoritarian" in to try to make your point. Again, for many adults, this is more about their beliefs than anything kids believe. In the U.S. we force kids to go to school for 8 hours a day for 12 years, learn stuff they don't want, and obey a huge number of rules, many of which don't make sense and actually cause different harms. Yet, wearing masks so their teacher doesn't die during a pandemic is where you draw the line. Lol. That is a comical version of authoritarianism.

No, the public school system is broken for all for the most intelligent, motivated, and disciplined of students. You are a part of a broken system, were you are an authority enforcing rules and you believe are immoral. I am in favor of a less Prussian model of education, and all you seem to want to do is add more rules through force. I am done with this conversation, go do your job and make another brick in the wall Dan.

[PoliSciGuy]

Yeah I'd bow out of this conversation as well if I were you. There's a valid discussion to be had about the rigidity of our school system, but asking kids to put on a mask for a couple of months so they can stay in school and limit the spread of a deadly pandemic ain't the time or place for it.

[soonerguru]

Threadjack warning.

[Martin]

yeah... let's get back to topic. and some of that is getting waaay too personal.

[kukblue1]

I'm just saying the narrative has quickly changed from RSV to Covid that's all. Why don't we give RSV numbers like Covid numbers than if it's a big deal? Is it Covid or RSV? Do we even know?

[PoliSciGuy]

RSV has been around for centuries, our immune systems are very familiar with it, and it kills ~20,000 a year, usually high-risk infants and folks over 65.

COVID is a novel pandemic first discovered in 2019 and has killed 600,000 Americans since then and is currently blitzing through our community and other locations in the United States.

Covid and RSV are different viruses, and most tests now test for RSV, flu and Covid in one swab, so it's highly unlikely that we're confusing COVID and RSV.

If you genuinely cannot understand why one is getting breathless coverage while the other doesn't get as much coverage, then I really do worry about your critical thinking skills.

[kukblue1]

https://oklahoma.gov/health/preventi...ation/rsv.html Oh it's not even a reportable disease. Never mind. Everything is covid

[BDP]

If you are angry with anti-vax caricatures who won't get a shot no matter what, read this newsletter post by Zeynep Tufekci. She makes a really compelling case that the unvaccinated are far more complex than often pictures. This is important to remember in discussions, policies, and efforts.

I'm honestly not angry with the vaccine hesitant. Many of them are just the victims of the politics of cruelty. But those who preach the pro plague agenda, institute policy prohibiting the mitigation of a deadly disease, and intentionally spread misinformation for political and/or financial gain have blood on their hands. It's cruel, plain and simple.

[d-usa]

https://oklahoma.gov/health/preventi...ation/rsv.html Oh it's not even a reportable disease. Never mind. Everything is covid

RSV is RSV.
COVID is COVID.

Anybody at home, in the hospital, in an ICU, who is RSV+/COVID- is not reported as a COVID statistic.

That’s been explained to you. You either can’t understand that, don’t want to understand it, or you care more about spreading doubt and uncertainty than getting your questions answered.

[C_M_25]

Does anybody have any plots or graphs showing the hospitalization trends for kids over the past month or so? Anything broken out by why they’re in there to begin with, ie RSV vs covid?

[corwin1968]

I work in education and talk with K-5 educators all the time. Are kids perfect? No, but I honestly think they're better than adults on the whole. They respond to teachers who set a good example and reinforce it. Again, entire schools do a great job of this. It's not a one-off example.

I spent the day in an elementary school, mostly around Pre-K thru 1st. Not every kid was wearing a mask, but every kid who did wear a mask, wore it correctly.

[dankrutka]

https://www.poynter.org/ethics-trust...-report-finds/ It means no one trust our media and like you said there are thousands all with their own agenda. Anything for clicks.

Yet I am able to find tons of great news sources everyday with detailed, thoughtful reporting everyday.

[dankrutka]

I'm honestly not angry with the vaccine hesitant. Many of them are just the victims of the politics of cruelty. But those who preach the pro plague agenda, institute policy prohibiting the mitigation of a deadly disease, and intentionally spread misinformation for political and/or financial gain have blood on their hands. It's cruel, plain and simple.

Absolutely. And that post even says those are the people we should be mad at.