Covid-19 in OKC (coronavirus)

[Pete]

Willful ignorance.

I don't care where you get your news, if you aren't aware of the recent surge you are putting in effort to avoid it.

[Urbanized]

Willful ignorance.

I don't care where you get your news, if you aren't aware of the recent surge you are putting in effort to avoid it.

Willful ignorance includes self-selecting away from news sources who tell you things you don't like hearing, plus complete acceptance of algorithmic subservience. We all create our own bubbles, whether we are aware of it or not. A thinking person challenges their personal news bubble. Unfortunately, we aren't a nation of self-reflective deep thinkers.

[Pete]

Willful ignorance includes self-selecting away from news sources who tell you things you don't like hearing, plus complete acceptance of algorithmic subservience. We all create our own bubbles, whether we are aware of it or not. A thinking person challenges their personal news bubble. Unfortunately, we aren't a nation of self-reflective deep thinkers.

That is very true but no matter how selective your bubble, you have to go out of your way to not know about this surge.

I'm very sure lots of people specifically tune it out because they just don't want to hear it.

That's the difference between confirmation bias and willful ignorance.

[Urbanized]

That is very true but no matter how selective your bubble, you have to go out of your way to not know about this surge.

I'm very sure lots of people specifically tune it out because they just don't want to hear it.

Seriously Pete, I'm not so sure. You and I are similar in age so it is difficult for me to imagine not at the very least turning on broadcast television, but there is a broad swath of society who by choice doesn't even have broadcast channels available to them. They don't EVER read a paper, or look at a site like this. Many in their 20s and even 30s think Facebook and Twitter are only for olds. They stream video content without any news, they stream commercial-free (and news-free) music on Spotify. The only way many of these people would hear about it is in conversation with friends and loved ones, and most of their friends and loved ones are just as disconnected (or believe it's over, or a sham, or whatever).

I'm just saying that I think it is VERY possible to walk through life right now and be blissfully unaware of the approaching storm clouds.

[Bill Robertson]

The bubble concept is strong in this. The people I referred to are all bartenders/servers. Their life is work, make tips, party with friends, sleep, repeat. Lack of knowing things is just unintentional lack of paying any attention to the outside world. And the feeling of invulnerability of youth.

And thinking back on what I do remember of my wild youth I was pretty much the same way.

[Bill Robertson]

Seriously Pete, I'm not so sure. You and I are similar in age so it is difficult for me to imagine not at the very least turning on broadcast television, but there is a broad swath of society who by choice doesn't even have broadcast channels available to them. They don't EVER read a paper, or look at a site like this. Many in their 20s and even 30s think Facebook and Twitter are only for olds. They stream video content without any news, they stream commercial-free (and news-free) music on Spotify. The only way many of these people would hear about it is in conversation with friends and loved ones, and most of their friends and loved ones are just as disconnected (or believe it's over, or a sham, or whatever).

I'm just saying that I think it is VERY possible to walk through life right now and be blissfully unaware of the approaching storm clouds.

True. I think a lot of us. Me included most of the time. Forget how little we cared about anything but having a good time when we were young.

[Canoe]

The bubble concept is strong in this. The people I referred to are all bartenders/servers. Their life is work, make tips, party with friends, sleep, repeat. Lack of knowing things is just unintentional lack of paying any attention to the outside world. And the feeling of invulnerability of youth.

And thinking back on what I do remember of my wild youth I was pretty much the same way.

You see Swake, just like I said in the other thread. If you look at the numbers, this is the young working class I was referencing. I encourage you to stop running them down and reflexively pointing to Trump. QAnon people maybe against the jab on political grounds, but it does not mean that everyone without the jab is a right wing, Trump supporter, insert insult here.

[Pete]

You see Swake, just like I said in the other thread. If you look at the numbers, this is the young working class I was referencing. I encourage you to stop running them down and reflexively pointing to Trump. QAnon people maybe against the jab on political grounds, but it does not mean that everyone without the jab is a right wing, Trump supporter, insert insult here.

The large majority are, as has been demonstrated in countless polls.

There are other groups as well, but they are smaller.

[Canoe]

The large majority are, as has been demonstrated in countless polls.

There are other groups as well, but they are smaller.

Pete please read this in a respectful tone, you could be correct, I have not seen the polls, but this is a class issue as well as a political issue. It is foolish to say all people who do not get the jab are stupid, lazy, selfish, just because your political opponents have also not received the jab.

[Pete]

Pete please read this in a respectful tone, you could be correct, I have not seen the polls, but this is a class issue as well as a political issue. It is foolish to say all people who do not get the jab are stupid, lazy, selfish, just because your political opponents have also not received the jab.

Nobody is saying all.

But for the other groups, there are no high-profile government and former government officials actively campaigning (or at best staying completely silent like our governor) against the vaccine. It's really very simple: the easiest way to get a big percentage of people to change their minds is for these leaders to do the right thing, which also happens to be very easy.

Until then, just about anything else isn't going to make much of a difference.

[FighttheGoodFight]

OK back to number one in test positivity. Means we are under testing for sure. East side of the state is in bad shape.

https://twitter.com/ChrisKPolansky/s...034698240?s=20

[Pete]

1,806 new cases today. Last several Thursdays: 1,581; 705; 456; 329; 273.

7-day average now 1,268.

Hospitalizations are 658 (+19).

ICU is 208 (+5).

[Pete]

Today's new cases were the largest in a single day since 2/7/21.

[catcherinthewry]

OK is now no. 8 in cases/100k. You're really doing something wrong when you overtake FL in that category.

[FighttheGoodFight]

Only positive is vaccines are up 30% from last week.

[OkiePoke]

Only positive is vaccines are up 30% from last week.

About 36k last week vs 27k the week prior.

[catch22]

Only positive is vaccines are up 30% from last week.

The sad thing is it’s too late for a lot of these people. It takes several weeks to build up the immunity. I am glad people are going to get it, but they should have rushed to get it months ago. It’s like waiting until the last moment to move out of the way of a freight train.

[Pete]

Tinker AFB requiring all military personnel, employees and visitors to wear a mask on the base while indoors, regardless of vaccination status.

So it begins.

https://www.oklahoman.com/story/news...us/5416507001/

[BoulderSooner]

Tinker AFB requiring all military personnel, employees and visitors to wear a mask on the base while indoors, regardless of vaccination status.

So it begins.

https://www.oklahoman.com/story/news...us/5416507001/

FYI this is a DOD mandate that came out yesterday .... https://media.defense.gov/2021/Jul/2...-FOD-FINAL.PDF

it currently covers all but 10 states ..

North Dakota
Minnesota
Michigan
Ohio
Pennsylvania
Delaware
Maryland
New Hampshire
Vermont
Maine

[soonerguru]

.....but I have a hard time wrapping my head around the fact that people are that oblivious.

Clearly you have not done door to door political canvassing!

[soonerguru]

Seriously Pete, I'm not so sure. You and I are similar in age so it is difficult for me to imagine not at the very least turning on broadcast television, but there is a broad swath of society who by choice doesn't even have broadcast channels available to them. They don't EVER read a paper, or look at a site like this. Many in their 20s and even 30s think Facebook and Twitter are only for olds. They stream video content without any news, they stream commercial-free (and news-free) music on Spotify. The only way many of these people would hear about it is in conversation with friends and loved ones, and most of their friends and loved ones are just as disconnected (or believe it's over, or a sham, or whatever).

I'm just saying that I think it is VERY possible to walk through life right now and be blissfully unaware of the approaching storm clouds.

Pretty sure this describes my 20yo daughter, who gets a lot of news info through various social platforms, but whenever I bring up a news item she usually knows about it. For example, she knew our governor was in Azerbaijian when I did not, lol.

[soonerguru]

You see Swake, just like I said in the other thread. If you look at the numbers, this is the young working class I was referencing. I encourage you to stop running them down and reflexively pointing to Trump. QAnon people maybe against the jab on political grounds, but it does not mean that everyone without the jab is a right wing, Trump supporter, insert insult here.

Sure, not "everyone," but countless studies have shown your statement to be demonstrably misleading. Perhaps you are just trying to minimize it, but even my conservative friend I spoke to today is over it, aggravated with Fox, aggravated by Trump (who he pointed out got the vaccine but continues to fan the flames of conspiracy against it), and aggravated by fellow conservatives in his state (Arkansas) who are parroting nonsense.

Counties that voted for Trump in big numbers are overwhelmingly unvaccinated. Counties that went for Biden are comparatively vaccinated. There are some exceptions but your efforts to minimize the fundamental truth about this are noted.

[WheelerD Guy]

Surprised it took this long: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wsj...ns-11627586033

Although I’m not sure if $100 will move the needle for the young professional demographic.

[FighttheGoodFight]

OSU doing a pokeathon for students. Get a vaccine or prove you did and get entered for 10k scholarship, I like it

[Martin]

OSU doing a pokeathon for students. Get a vaccine or prove you did and get entered for 10k scholarship, I like it

as i finished reading just the first sentence, i thought osu was doing some big pokemon event despite the current infection rate... glad my first impression was wrong. : )

/a $10k scholarship... that's like 3 textbooks these days, right?