Covid-19 in OKC (coronavirus)

[Pete]

School will be starting back at full capacity in just over a month.

Football stadiums will once again be jammed this fall.

This is going to get a lot worse before it gets better.

[LocoAko]

School will be starting back at full capacity in just over a month.

Football stadiums will once again be jammed this fall.

This is going to get a lot worse before it gets better.

Yep.

And, AFAIK courtesy of Senate Bill 658, without mask mandates in schools unless the Governor declares another state of emergency, which I find doubtful given his pronouncements about us being open and going into a re-election campaign. This despite many school-age children still not being eligible for the vaccine. (Something something here about local control and small government...).

I am really curious about the breakthrough cases we are seeing (which I think we are currently getting an update on from Lance Frye). The CDC issued a report today focused on an outbreak of the Delta variant a central Oklahoma gymnastics facility (https://www-cdc-gov.ezproxy.lib.ou.e...cid=mm7028e2_w). In the report, they note 17 people were fully vaccinated and 4 of them tested positive (with mild symptoms) representing 9% of total cases, while 6% of cases were partially vaccinated and 85% were unvaccinated. The efficacy seems to be taking a hit in England, as well, although I believe they were majority AstraZeneca so I don't know if that is playing a part. I know the CDC seems to be discounting some of the reduced efficacy numbers of Pfizer coming out of Israel and Pfizer's own call for a booster, but it certainly seems like there's a lot of conflicting info out there about whether there is any waning immunity. (All that said, I'd much rather be vaccinated than unvaccinated right now and am no way questioning the need for more vaccines).

The latest from the state epidemiologist: "As of July 8, we've had almost 1.5 million Oklahomans receive both doses. We've recorded 896 breakthrough cases. This still represents less than .06 percent of those fully vaccinated in Oklahoma." (https://twitter.com/CathJSweeney/sta...39744743628808).

[Pete]

^

And remember, even if there are breakthrough cases (and they remain very low) the severity is greatly reduced if fully vaccinated.

[Bunty]

^^ my friend is an ICU doctor in Tulsa, and said that it is filled with people in their 30s who were unvaccinated and with no major health issues.

The media probably needs to do a better job of covering new developments going on. It might work to encourage more people to get vaccinated.

[soonerguru]

The media probably needs to do a better job of covering new developments going on. It might work to encourage more people to get vaccinated.

Why can't Stitt be bothered to make a robust public statement about getting vaccinated?

We need a full-on media campaign (better than the current one) with Toby Keith, Reba, Carrie Underwood, Bob Stoops, Baker Mayfield, Pat Jones, Garth Brooks and others telling people to get the damn shots. Maybe feature former Gov. Henry and Keating and Nigh since our current governor seems to reside in some fact-free universe.

[jerrywall]

Why can't Stitt be bothered to make a robust public statement about getting vaccinated?.

I guess you're looking for something more formal, and maybe marketing based than the very public vaccination Stitt did, and his repeated statements encouraging folks to get vaccinated? I mean, fair enough, I guess, but I don't think it would change much at this point. The folks who are resisting it now are taking their lead from outside of this state and are likely to dismiss anything trying to convince them otherwise.

[FighttheGoodFight]

I guess you're looking for something more formal, and maybe marketing based than the very public vaccination Stitt did, and his repeated statements encouraging folks to get vaccinated? I mean, fair enough, I guess, but I don't think it would change much at this point. The folks who are resisting it now are taking their lead from outside of this state and are likely to dismiss anything trying to convince them otherwise.

Pretty much. Anyone not getting it now is wrapped up in social media doctors and false news. Pretty sad.

[chssooner]

Why can't Stitt be bothered to make a robust public statement about getting vaccinated?

We need a full-on media campaign (better than the current one) with Toby Keith, Reba, Carrie Underwood, Bob Stoops, Baker Mayfield, Pat Jones, Garth Brooks and others telling people to get the damn shots. Maybe feature former Gov. Henry and Keating and Nigh since our current governor seems to reside in some fact-free universe.

Because said governor is skeptical of the vaccine, and vaccines in general.

[kukblue1]

The media probably needs to do a better job of covering new developments going on. It might work to encourage more people to get vaccinated.

I have been saying this for a while. Why are they not giving more numbers of people that have been fully vaccinated and in the hospital. It's extremely low. Fox news I know fox news but they had a story this morning about the death rate out of fully vax people is like .00006. You have a better chance of dying from a lightning strike. 99% of people dying from covid are not vaccinated. Why are we not plastering the numbers like that all over the place. Why don't CNN have a ticker on the side showing how great the numbers are.

https://healthfeedback.org/claimrevi...vailable-data/

[soonerguru]

Because said governor is skeptical of the vaccine, and vaccines in general.

Well he did get the vaccine.....but good point.

I disagree with Jerry Wall, no amount of effort to try to persuade people to get vaccinated is wasted energy. The time is now to double down to try to reach folks who are undecided, or perhaps folks who somehow think the virus is over, or perhaps just aren't good at planning a trip to the local Walgreen's or CVS.

I suspect a lot of these people are in rural areas where the major drugstore chains don't have locations.

Making change is hard, but can be accomplished with a plan. It doesn't appear there is much of a plan.

[soonerguru]

I have been saying this for a while. Why are they not giving more numbers of people that have been fully vaccinated and in the hospital. It's extremely low. Fox news I know fox news but they had a story this morning about the death rate out of fully vax people is like .00006. You have a better chance of dying from a lightning strike. 99% of people dying from covid are not vaccinated. Why are we not plastering the numbers like that all over the place. Why don't CNN have a ticker on the side showing how great the numbers are.

https://healthfeedback.org/claimrevi...vailable-data/

Well we need FOX to continue to do this kind of reporting. Would help if Hannity or Tucker or some of the other more extreme hosts would tell people to get the shot. I would imagine FOX News viewers are more vaccine resistant than viewers of other cable news networks.

[David]

Well we need FOX to continue to do this kind of reporting. Would help if Hannity or Tucker or some of the other more extreme hosts would tell people to get the shot. I would imagine FOX News viewers are more vaccine resistant than viewers of other cable news networks.

According to some polling I saw earlier today that is strongly true.

[kukblue1]

Just now on News 9. I think it was 520 new cases today. OK that fine but how many of those 520 that tested positive were vaccinated. If it's a low number like ever 20 you would think that would be a great thing to tell people. Surly they know this number. Maybe the number isn't good and they don't want to tell us and they being lying to us this whole time.

[David]

Just now on News 9. I think it was 520 new cases today. OK that fine but how many of those 520 that tested positive were vaccinated. If it's a low number like ever 20 you would think that would be a great thing to tell people. Surly they know this number. Maybe the number isn't good and they don't want to tell us and they being lying to us this whole time.

Just because they didn't directly email you the number doesn't mean it exists and is bad. From coverage of the state news conference earlier today:

https://twitter.com/CathJSweeney/sta...39744743628808

Stone: As of July 8, we've had almost 1.5 million Oklahomans receive both doses. We've recorded 896 breakthrough cases. "This still represents less than .06 percent of those fully vaccinated in Oklahoma.

.06% breakthrough rate for the state overall so far. Sure, that isn't the breakthrough number for today's new cases but given the overall breakthrough rate it's unlikely to be more than a handful.

[kukblue1]

Just because they didn't directly email you the number doesn't mean it exists and is bad. From coverage of the state news conference earlier today:

https://twitter.com/CathJSweeney/sta...39744743628808



.06% breakthrough rate for the state overall so far. Sure, that isn't the breakthrough number for today's new cases but given the overall breakthrough rate it's unlikely to be more than a handful.

I haven't once heard that number of .06% on the local news. Maybe a missed it but you would like they would be hammering it home and bringing it up when ever they can.

[dankrutka]

Just now on News 9. I think it was 520 new cases today. OK that fine but how many of those 520 that tested positive were vaccinated. If it's a low number like ever 20 you would think that would be a great thing to tell people. Surly they know this number. Maybe the number isn't good and they don't want to tell us and they being lying to us this whole time.

There are tons of reputable studies on this very topic showing over and over that the vaccines reduce chances of infection and transmission dramatically. Even when there are cases, they are much more mild, which means that breakthrough cases also show the vaccines are working. So, even if you had the data you're asking for, it would not be very helpful. There is no need to speculate when there's overwhelming evidence already showing you the answer. Quit the conspiracy theories about the evil "they." It only ruins your own credibility.

[PoliSciGuy]

If you have any doubt about the efficacy of the vaccines, just compare Russia's case/death numbers to that of Israel, or even the UK. They're all overrun with delta. Israel and UK are vaccinated at high levels with mRNA vaccines while Russia is not.

The vaccines remain very, very good.

[kukblue1]

There are tons of reputable studies on this very topic showing over and over that the vaccines reduce chances of infection and transmission dramatically. Even when there are cases, they are much more mild, which means that breakthrough cases also show the vaccines are working. So, even if you had the data you're asking for, it would not be very helpful. There is no need to speculate when there's overwhelming evidence already showing you the answer. Quit the conspiracy theories about the evil "they." It only ruins your own credibility.

Caught the start of 5 news and that Dillion guy does a good job.

[jccouger]

Once enough people in rural Oklahoma start dying their friends & family might start to be convinced to get the vaccine. Close personal deaths are the only thing that can change their mind at this point.

[Bunty]

Well he did get the vaccine.....but good point.

I disagree with Jerry Wall, no amount of effort to try to persuade people to get vaccinated is wasted energy. The time is now to double down to try to reach folks who are undecided, or perhaps folks who somehow think the virus is over, or perhaps just aren't good at planning a trip to the local Walgreen's or CVS.

I suspect a lot of these people are in rural areas where the major drugstore chains don't have locations.

Making change is hard, but can be accomplished with a plan. It doesn't appear there is much of a plan.

But non-chain drug stores in rural small towns are offering vaccines as in Yale and Perkins. But the smallest towns don't have drug stores.

[Bunty]

Well we need FOX to continue to do this kind of reporting. Would help if Hannity or Tucker or some of the other more extreme hosts would tell people to get the shot. I would imagine FOX News viewers are more vaccine resistant than viewers of other cable news networks.

Dream on and expect the opposite. Laura Ingraham on Fox News recently interviewed an older woman who came down with a severe brain aneurism shortly after getting vaccinated. She barely survived it and is partly blind and partly paralyzed.

[Bunty]

Once enough people in rural Oklahoma start dying their friends & family might start to be convinced to get the vaccine. Close personal deaths are the only thing that can change their mind at this point.

That should have already happened when covid cases and deaths peaked in January.

[Jeepnokc]

The small non chain drug store in Perry OK is going around the state setting up pods for groups and small businesses. Any small group like a church could set it up. We did a pod at my law office and offered it to all of our bar and cigar staff as well as our neighboring businesses.

[TheTravellers]

Delta variant sparks COVID outbreak in Oklahoma gymnastics gym — 85% were unvaccinated

[LocoAko]

It could be anecdotal, but at Target this morning, which had all but stopped masking entirely (maybe 10%), I'd wager 25-30% of people were now wearing masks. Small sample size, but I wondered if maybe concerns about the Delta variant were causing people to adjust their behavior back to mask wearing in some cases...