Covid-19 in OKC (coronavirus)

[TheTravellers]

https://www.oklahoman.com/story/news...ts/7871824002/

So if this quote from the article is true - "about a quarter of COVID-19 inpatients at the hospital have been vaccinated" - and the vaccines are 95% effective against hospitalization and death, something seems a bit off.

[Pete]

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Perhaps they haven't been fully vaccinated.

[TheTravellers]

^

Perhaps they haven't been fully vaccinated.

Yeah, I was wondering if the vaccinated ones had both shots - article or doctor should've specified that instead of just "vaccinated".

[jedicurt]

Yeah, I was wondering if the vaccinated ones had both shots - article or doctor should've specified that instead of just "vaccinated".

that's my thoughts as well. since a vast majority of people i know (sadly) only got one shot, and called it good... like my first circle friends group is fully vaxed. but second circle friends are mostly only a single shot. it's crazy.

[TheTravellers]

that's my thoughts as well. since a vast majority of people i know (sadly) only got one shot, and called it good... like my first circle friends group is fully vaxed. but second circle friends are mostly only a single shot. it's stupid.

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[PoliSciGuy]

Yeah odds are people are only getting tested if they have significant symptoms, and vaccinated folks may not get tested at all since they’re vaxxed. This means that folks actually getting tested, and testing positive, are the most sick. It doesn’t really mean much re: vaccinations or how bad the Delta variant is.

[oklip955]

About the 25% who were vaccinated. Beside some of them only having one shot, we need to consider some other facts. Not all people who receive the shots develop anitbodies. There are a lot of people today take immune suppression drugs for things like arthritis, skin issues, Crone's disease etc. I was reading, sorry I dont remember where, that these people dont always develop robust amount of antibodies due to the drugs. A friend of mine taking part in a clinical trial of a not yet approved vaccine did not, and was told to get the J and J shot to hopefully develop enough antibodies. Just my thought on this.

[AnguisHerba]

A couple things to consider: 1) the higher the total population vaccination rate, the higher the odds that someone who contracts covid has been vaccinated. 2) How are hospitals determining if someone has been vaccinated? Is it just completely self reported or is proof required? People do lie in order to avoid public shame.

[dankrutka]

About the 25% who were vaccinated. Beside some of them only having one shot, we need to consider some other facts. Not all people who receive the shots develop anitbodies. There are a lot of people today take immune suppression drugs for things like arthritis, skin issues, Crone's disease etc. I was reading, sorry I dont remember where, that these people dont always develop robust amount of antibodies due to the drugs. A friend of mine taking part in a clinical trial of a not yet approved vaccine did not, and was told to get the J and J shot to hopefully develop enough antibodies. Just my thought on this.

There are always exceptions, but study after study shows these vaccines are working for people. You can still have breakthrough cases, but almost no one knows it since they’re typically asymptomatic. So, I don’t think there’s a problem with people being fully vaccinated and not being protected. From around the country, almost all COVID hospital cases are people who are not fully vaccinated. The vaccines are working.

[kukblue1]

https://www.nbc4i.com/community/heal...-unvaccinated/ In June in the State of Maryland it was 100%. Not sure what people are not understanding

[Bunty]

https://www.oklahoman.com/story/news...ts/7871824002/

Distressing to read that about a quarter of COVID-19 inpatients at a hospital have been vaccinated and too early to scoff at.

[catcherinthewry]

456 new cases today. That is the worst non-postweekend or non-anomaly figure since March 26th. I was hoping the worst was behind us, but with our low vaccination rate and the Delta variant becoming dominant I've lost that hope.

[Pete]

456 new cases today. That is the worst non-postweekend or non-anomaly figure since March 26th. I was hoping the worst was behind us, but with our low vaccination rate and the Delta variant becoming dominant I've lost that hope.

All of this has been and continues to be 100% predictable.

It's just simple logic and science, things half of Oklahomans have rejected.


I've said it all the way along: this fall and winter are going to be bad.

[BDP]

Distressing to read that about a quarter of COVID-19 inpatients at a hospital have been vaccinated and too early to scoff at.

I read that in Missouri, where it's the worst it's ever been in some places, less than 5% of hospitalized patients are vaccinated. And that seems pretty consistent with the data in general. So, if that 25% number is correct, it's a big anomaly and would suggest that something different is happening here.

[PoliSciGuy]

Also worth wondering whether those folks are *fully* vaccinated or just partially vaccinated, and which vaccine they got. For Delta, you really need both shots to get good outcomes https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-021-03777-9

[Pete]

Also worth wondering whether those folks are *fully* vaccinated or just partially vaccinated, and which vaccine they got. For Delta, you really need both shots to get good outcomes https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-021-03777-9

The report just said "vaccinated"; I would assume that does not mean fully vaccinated because if that was the case, it would have likely been worded in that way.

[FighttheGoodFight]

The report just said "vaccinated"; I would assume that does not mean fully vaccinated because if that was the case, it would have likely been worded in that way.

In the abstract "Sera from individuals having received one dose of Pfizer or AstraZeneca vaccines barely inhibited variant Delta. Administration of two doses generated a neutralizing response in 95% of individuals, with titers 3 to 5 fold lower against Delta than Alpha"

I dont see anything about Moderna or J&J

[catcherinthewry]

All of this has been and continues to be 100% predictable.

It's just simple logic and science, things half of Oklahomans have rejected.


I've said it all the way along: this fall and winter are going to be bad.

It won't be as bad as last fall and winter because the virus will have half as many possible hosts. But, having missed our chance to eradicate the virus, it will continue to mutate and could conceivably become resistant to the current vaccines. Of course I'm sure booster shots are being developed to hopefully account for the mutations.

It has become a long battle the has become longer thanks to the lack of leadership from the trump administration and red state governors.

[Pete]

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It probably won't be as bad but we also now lack any will to wear masks or do social distancing, plus people will be packing in at football stadiums, arenas, music venues...

We weren't doing any of that this past fall and winter and things were still plenty terrible.


Oklahoma is already a bit of a hotspot for new cases.

[BDP]

More of the same:

'Those deaths were preventable': Unvaccinated parts of country are driving the pandemic now

Virtually all deaths from COVID-19 in the United States are now among people who have not received their coronavirus vaccine. And those deaths are highly concentrated in counties — many of them in the Midwest and Southeast — where vaccination rates are precariously low.

On the other hand, transmission has effectively ceased in Northeastern and Western states where governors have made vaccination a top priority, and where resistance was low among residents from the start.

Walensky said that in recent months, 99.5 percent of all deaths from COVID-19 in the U.S. were among unvaccinated individuals. “Those deaths were preventable with a simple, safe shot,” the CDC director said.

[catcherinthewry]

Of course I'm sure booster shots are being developed to hopefully account for the mutations.

It was announced today that Pfizer is seeking authorization for a 3rd dose of its covid-19 vaccine.

[kukblue1]

Unless you can prove otherwise. Can't fly unless your vaccinated, can't stay in hotel unless your vaccinated, can't go to a sporting event unless your vaccinated. Never will happen but we should of been a little tougher on things when the vaccines first rolled out and things started to open back up. I think some stadiums were only allowing vaccinated fans but I'm sure that is not the case anymore. It's way too late now.

[Pete]

Our numbers continue to climb.

1,648 new cases last week. Last 5 weeks: 1,270; 1,151; 1,141; 842; 775.

Over 1,000 new cases in just the last 2 days.

7-day rolling average up to 314 after being close to 100 just a month ago.

Hospitalizations are 208, up from 106 on 6/10.

ICU is 66, up from 29 on 6/3.

[sooner88]

^^ my friend is an ICU doctor in Tulsa, and said that it is filled with people in their 30s who were unvaccinated and with no major health issues.

[catcherinthewry]

Our numbers continue to climb.

1,648 new cases last week. Last 5 weeks: 1,270; 1,151; 1,141; 842; 775.

Over 1,000 new cases in just the last 2 days.

7-day rolling average up to 314 after being close to 100 just a month ago.

Hospitalizations are 208, up from 106 on 6/10.

ICU is 66, up from 29 on 6/3.

And our 7 day vaccination rate is just 4335 even though under 40% of our population is fully vaccinated. It doesn't take sophisticated computer modeling to see where this is headed.