Does anyone have a data set showing the demographics of the people who have received the shot in Oklahoma?
This site does a few different graphs of demographic data they can get on both state and federal vaccine data
https://usafacts.org/visualizations/...state/oklahoma
Sorry I dont know how to do links and stuff like that. The other day I was looking on the OK Health Dept website as far as statistics on those vaccinated. It seems like Okla county is doing better then other areas as a whole but minorities rates are lower. Looks like they need to do more out reach to Hispanic, Black and Native American communities. They had one last weekend to the Hispanic community, hopefully they will do more of these. Also the rate of vaccination in the southeast part of the state is lower. Not sure why.
119 new cases today (last 3 Wednesdays: 124, 143, 252); 7-day rolling average 146.
No additional reported deaths; 7-day rolling average 7.3.
Hospitalizations are 139 (+31).
ICU is 45 (+12).
And yet, the numbers amongst the vaccinated are a hell of a lot better than that, especially when you look at deaths (which is what I would mean by "better")
Sure, if we're comparing the two based on tum-tum aches and feeling sleepy for a few days among 20 year olds, then it's like you say. They will probably have a little less comfortable weekend than they would if they got covid, but they won't transmit it to others resulting in more deaths.
And, maybe it's just me, but less Americans dead is a hell of a lot better than a few 20 year olds feeling icky from a vaccine instead of a hangover for a couple of days.
137 new cases today (last 3 Thursdays: 172, 153, 148); 7-day rolling average 141.
12 additional reported deaths; 7-day rolling average 7.0.
Hospitalizations are 142 (+3).
ICU is 48 (+3).
144 new cases today (last 3 Fridays: 185, 151, 234); 7-day rolling average 135.
9 additional deaths reported; 7-day rolling average 6.1.
Hospitalizations are unchanged at 142.
ICU is unchanged a 48.
466 new cases over a 4-day period. 7-day rolling average 124 which is the lowest since 6/12/20.
14 additional reported deaths for the 4-day period. 7 day rolling average 5.0, the lowest since 7/22/20.
Hospitalizations are 145 (+3).
ICU is 37 (-11).
First off, the shingles vaccine was much harder on me than the Moderna COVID shots. The fact that anyone is holding off - or ruling it out entirely - just based on (the possibility of) feeling icky for a few days is mind-numbing.
Second, - thanks to contracting COVID-19 in January, before I was vaccinated - it's now been five months since I have had a reliable sense of smell. It's worse than food not always tasting right; I am also concerned that I'll sleep through a gas leak or a fire. Or that I won't smell if food has gone bad and poison myself. And that's just smells. I also still have occasional heart flutters. My cardiologist thinks I'm most likely fine, but of course when his office was performing ultrasound didn't happen to line up timewise with one of the occasional moments when I can feel it happening. Sort of like taking your car to the shop and it (naturally) not making the damned noise that has been driving you up the wall for weeks. Well, AFIB can eventually lead to strokes. Wish me luck.
The thing that is barely talked about is that COVID-19 is clearly a neurological disease. People think of it as respiratory or GI or whatever, but what is most likely happening is that these various bodily functions are being affected by your nervous system as a result of IT being under attack by the virus. And there is zero data yet on how the nervous system might have been affected long term. I think if more people grasped that their NERVOUS SYSTEM (including THEIR BRAIN) was under attack, vaccine adoption would increase immediately. Instead, we here a bunch of flu false equivalency BS. It ain't the flu.
And the stupid "but it's less than 1% mortality" thing is also a total BS way to look at it. 1% of the world's population IS ALMOST 80 MILLION HUMAN BEINGS. Heck here in America a 1% mortality rate would result in 3.5 MILLION dead souls.
And yes, I know, it's actually LESS than 1% mortality (though that could change if a new variant is allowed to emerge thanks to vaccine resistance and other anti-science and anti-mathematics stands people are taking). But I'll guarantee you this: if you walked into a room of 1000 people (a smallish concert venue) and you learned that there was a 100% chance that a guy was going to walk into that room and randomly murder one person that evening - *almost* certainly not you, mind you, but definitely SOMEONE in that room - I'm still pretty sure you'd leave that room so damned fast that you'd leave skid marks on the floor. That equals .01%, by the way. One TENTH of one percent.
Get the damned shot.
Last edited by Urbanized; 06-01-2021 at 01:52 PM. Reason: Edited for clarity thanks to Pete's question
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Are you saying the loss of taste and smell was due to having contracted Covid-19?
It's precisely how I knew I had COVID-19 instead of simple gut issues and dizziness. I had been incredibly careful during the pandemic, and there had been so much informational focus on the respiratory distress people were suffering that my symptoms didn't really present as COVID to me at first.
I was never stopped up, never had a cough, a sore throat or fever (that I know of, and was checking relatively often). But at some point I tried to smell something that should have knocked me over and it literally smelled odorless to me. I immediately quarantined and got a test the next morning, Positive.
I never fully lost taste, but my sense of smell fully vanished. And it still hasn't returned; only occasional wafts of odor that are almost as quickly gone, like when you work in a pizza place and get noseblind to pizza. It's been five months, and only slight improvement.
Bums me out how much it impacts quality of life. I never lost salty or sweet tastes, but enjoying the aroma of a beer or wine for instance is largely gone. Foods that I know from experience always taste great now taste pretty bland. On the plus side I can now eat hotter food than I ever dreamed of eating before, and I'm barely affected. It convinced me that the people you know in your life who can eat impossibly hot things most likely have a sensory deficit.
But the safety thing is much more of a concern that is the loss of some food tastes. And it would suck to (for instance) be a parent and not know when your child has a poopy diaper. Or to track dog poop into your house and not know it. It's just a pain in the ass that people shouldn't risk, and this one is one of the milder chronic problems some people are experiencing. It's not worth the risks. Get the damned shot.
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Really sorry to hear all that.
Losing your sense of smell would really suck. I had not heard of it being so semi-permanent.
My wife lost her sense of smell while we had it. She got that back, but she has different tastes now with some stuff. Most prominently, she no longer likes Pepsi. It is wild how varied this stuff can be.
People are grasping at straws with this ridiculous argument, and this post is borderline misinformation. There are hundreds of millions of people now who have taken the vaccines without serious side effects. That amounts to the largest clinical study in the history of mankind.
These vaccinations are approved by the FDA or they wouldn't be in circulation. People have been working on mRNA vaxxes for over 20 years.
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This.
It’s very common. About 25% of patients suffering olfactory dysfunction due to COVID-19 still have not subjectively recovered their sense of smell 60 days after infection, and about 1 in 20 still haven’t recovered six months in. It’s starting to look like I might fall into that last group.
Here’s a pretty good article on the topic
The odd thing is that asomnia (loss of smell) is WAY more common in people who had a mild case of COVID (which was thankfully the case for me). As in like 85% or mild cases have olfactory dysfunction while MUCH smaller percentages of moderate and severe cases deal with it.
The working theory is that for mild COVID cases with asomnia there was a more robust immune response inside the nose, protecting the rest of the body but causing more damage to the olfactory function. So, a trade-off.
It just goes to show how little we still know about this disease. And it also shows that getting even a “mild” case can still carry hidden risks and unintended consequences that can even be life altering. Why anyone would pass up a chance to avoid these risks with a simple vaccination that has now been shown to be highly effective AND safe is completely beyond me.
Get. The. Damned. Shot.
a co-worker got the virus last fall and experienced very mild symptoms, but lost their sense of smell... and they still haven't fully recovered it yet. i have also heard that this is fairly common.
This is not correct. The vaccines have been given emergency use authorization. The vaccines are not FDA approved. I recommend reviewing the difference on the FDA's website. It is a reason people have not received the vaccine. They want the vaccine to be FDA approved prior. People feel it is still experimental. This is from talking to people around town of who have not yet received the vaccine.
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