Covid-19 in OKC (coronavirus)

[Bill Robertson]

https://www.startribune.com/minnesot...als/600038033/ I don't like seeing cases around 500 a day still. Not with more and more getting vaccinated

Rome wasn't built in a day. We don't have even 20% fully vaccinated yet by a NBC page I just looked at. Considering that low a percentage I think 400 and under is doing very well considering it a very few weeks ago we were in the 3 to 4 thousands daily.

[Bill Robertson]

One thing to keep in mind re: hospitalizations is that now that there's more room, hospitals may be a bit more liberal in deciding who gets hospitalized rather than sent home for monitoring. At the peak, with rooms and beds filling, borderline cases were sent home with pulse oximeters and other tools to self-monitor and only come back if their symptoms worsened. Those cases now may be able to get hospitalized from the get-go.

Not that that explains *all* uptick, but it could explain some of it.

I'm still confused about what uptick. Here's a graph from the NY Times today. I'm not seeing an uptick. Maybe a slight slowing of the average daily decreases but definitely no uptick.

[kukblue1]

[QUOTE=Bill Robertson;1162005]Rome wasn't built in a day. We don't have even 20% fully vaccinated yet by a NBC page I just looked at. Considering that low a percentage I think 400 and under is doing very well considering it a very few weeks ago we were in the 3 to 4 thousands daily.[/QUOTE

https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/2021...e-in-27-states So nothing to worry about than huh.

[dankrutka]

I dont like to see hospitalizations ticking up. I hope this is not a trend. The other day I saw on a Minn news site, I forget which one, TV I think, that they are getting cases of fully vaccinated people getting the UK variant and some having to be admitted to the hospital. Pete this is something that someone might want to farther research. I am thinking this is why the cdc is saying to keep wearing masks and social distance.

Scientists have always expected "breakthrough" COVID cases, but they should be more mild and it's highly rare they'd require hospitalization. All evidence suggests that the vaccines do protect against all the variants thus far. Yes, it's a good idea to continue wearing a mask when indoors and close to others, but that's as much to lessen others' anxiety as anything. Other people don't know that you've been vaccinated so it's really a social cue to continue responsible behavior around other community members. I haven't seen any reports that should worry vaccinated people.

[Bill Robertson]

[QUOTE=kukblue1;1162020]

Rome wasn't built in a day. We don't have even 20% fully vaccinated yet by a NBC page I just looked at. Considering that low a percentage I think 400 and under is doing very well considering it a very few weeks ago we were in the 3 to 4 thousands daily.[/QUOTE

https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/2021...e-in-27-states So nothing to worry about than huh.

Can you point out exactly where I said there's nothing to worry about. What I said was that here, in Oklahoma, the case numbers have fallen many times more than the percent vaccinated has gone up. That's factual. I'm still as worried as anyone. I'm the one still wearing an N95 mask the few places I do go and carrying sanitizer everywhere. Do not take something I didn't even say and respond to it with a sarcastic remark.

[kukblue1]

[QUOTE=Bill Robertson;1162028]

Can you point out exactly where I said there's nothing to worry about. What I said was that here, in Oklahoma, the case numbers have fallen many times more than the percent vaccinated has gone up. That's factual. I'm still as worried as anyone. I'm the one still wearing an N95 mask the few places I do go and carrying sanitizer everywhere. Do not take something I didn't even say and respond to it with a sarcastic remark.

You said doing very well. Sorry I took it the wrong way. Really was just a general question that could of been answered with a simple yes or no. Anyway to me close to 500 cases a day and half the states with increases is not doing very well. I don't care how how cases we before. Over 1 million have had their first shot in the state of Oklahoma. If we were doing very well everything would be back to normal. Concerts, Thunder games. We are still averaging a 1,000 deaths a day in the country also.

[TheTravellers]

Stricter COVID-19 Precautions Could Have Saved 240,000 Lives So Far, Economist Says

[Bill Robertson]

[QUOTE=kukblue1;1162031]

You said doing very well. Sorry I took it the wrong way. Really was just a general question that could of been answered with a simple yes or no. Anyway to me close to 500 cases a day and half the states with increases is not doing very well. I don't care how how cases we before. Over 1 million have had their first shot in the state of Oklahoma. If we were doing very well everything would be back to normal. Concerts, Thunder games. We are still averaging a 1,000 deaths a day in the country also.

Expecting it to just magically go away as soon as we have 25% with the first shot is simply, completely unrealistic. 20% completely vaccinated and a 90% decrease in daily cases from the peak is doing far better than could have been reasonably expected. And measuring improvement from the worst is the only way to look at this situation. We're not going to wake up one morning and it's gone. Baby steps are a good thing to be celebrated. This is still going to be a long battle to get back to normal. I don't expect to see "normal" as in like it was before for a long time.

[SouthOfTheVillage]

Stricter COVID-19 Precautions Could Have Saved 240,000 Lives So Far, Economist Says

I’m only really interested in what Epidemiologists have to say about pandemics.

[Pete]

882 new cases (this is for the entire weekend); 7-day rolling average is 343.

53 additional deaths (also for the entire weekend); 7-day rolling average is 18.7.


Updated hospitalization numbers will be out this evening.

[DowntownMan]

Our rolling average has continued to drop right? Just not huge amounts, but still headed to downward trend? I keep hearing that states are headed back up but our trend doesn’t seem to fit that stance.

[Pete]

Our rolling average has continued to drop right? Just not huge amounts, but still headed to downward trend? I keep hearing that states are headed back up but our trend doesn’t seem to fit that stance.

Yes.

This number has continued to drop for the last several months.

343 is the lowest since 6/21/20.

[Bill Robertson]

Here is the latest CDC graph.

Let's keep it going this direction!

[Bill Robertson]

Our rolling average has continued to drop right? Just not huge amounts, but still headed to downward trend? I keep hearing that states are headed back up but our trend doesn’t seem to fit that stance.

About a quarter way down this link is a decent shot of all the states graphs in one place. With an indicator of whether they've gone up or down in the past two weeks. There are a lot of states going back up. Hopefully they get it turned back around.
https://graphics.reuters.com/world-c...united-states/

[jn1780]

About a quarter way down this link is a decent shot of all the states graphs in one place. With an indicator of whether they've gone up or down in the past two weeks. There are a lot of states going back up. Hopefully they get it turned back around.
https://graphics.reuters.com/world-c...united-states/

Notice how pretty much all the surging states are around same latitude. The virus has a sweet spot in both humidity and temperature at these locations. Somehow doubt these northern states all of the sudden started managing the virus worse than southern states. Pretty much all dictated by weather and climate.

There may be a sweet spot in the south around the May and June based on what we saw last year, so don't be surprised if cases start surging here around that time. Depending on how much progress is made on vaccinations anyway.

[oklip955]

One of the problem in the states that are surging is people being able to get vaccinated. They may open it to all but, I have friends that are well over 65 you and still cannot get a time to get vaccinated.

[Canoe]

Notice how pretty much all the surging states are around same latitude. The virus has a sweet spot in both humidity and temperature at these locations. Somehow doubt these northern states all of the sudden started managing the virus worse than southern states. Pretty much all dictated by weather and climate.

There may be a sweet spot in the south around the May and June based on what we saw last year, so don't be surprised if cases start surging here around that time. Depending on how much progress is made on vaccinations anyway.

Can you provide more information regarding this temperature and humidity sweet spot?

[Bill Robertson]

Notice how pretty much all the surging states are around same latitude. The virus has a sweet spot in both humidity and temperature at these locations. Somehow doubt these northern states all of the sudden started managing the virus worse than southern states. Pretty much all dictated by weather and climate.

There may be a sweet spot in the south around the May and June based on what we saw last year, so don't be surprised if cases start surging here around that time. Depending on how much progress is made on vaccinations anyway.

I've researched quite a but since you posted this. I can't find any study where temp/humidity is tied to the ebb and flow of COVID spread. Except a little about winter being worse because people stay inside and closer together just like the flu. Can you cite evidence of a weather sweet spot.

[dankrutka]

I've researched quite a but since you posted this. I can't find any study where temp/humidity is tied to the ebb and flow of COVID spread. Except a little about winter being worse because people stay inside and closer together just like the flu. Can you cite evidence of a weather sweet spot.

Yeah, I think this climate theory was disproved very early in the pandemic. The primary way weather seems to matter is how it impacts peoples' behavior (e.g., forcing them inside because of hot/cold temperatures where COVID spreads at a far higher rate).

[Bill Robertson]

Yeah, I think this climate theory was disproved very early in the pandemic. The primary way weather seems to matter is how it impacts peoples' behavior (e.g., forcing them inside because of hot/cold temperatures where COVID spreads at a far higher rate).

I agree but I thought maybe I missed something.

[Pete]

City Council just voted to defer the measure that would revoke the mask ordinance early (set to expire end of April).

Will be on the next council agenda in 2 weeks.

4 members voted against the deferral: Nice, McAtee, Hamon, and Cooper.


No way this passes in 2 weeks either, as they need 7 of 9 votes.

Whole thing is just grandstanding and a huge waste of time and effort that could be focused on more important issues.

[Bill Robertson]

City Council just voted to defer the measure that would revoke the mask ordinance early (set to expire end of April).

Will be on the next council agenda in 2 weeks.

4 members voted against the deferral: Nice, McAtee, Hamon, and Cooper.


No way this passes in 2 weeks either, as they need 7 of 9 votes.

Whole thing is just grandstanding and a huge waste of time and effort that could be focused on more important issues.

^
Amen!

[Pete]

Only 121 new cases today; 7-day average 334.

11 additional reported deaths; 7-day average 16.9.

Hospitalizations are 216 (-7).

ICU is unchanged at 58.

[d-usa]

We’ll have to wait and see how spring break travel ends up affecting things. I hope we keep on improving our vaccination rates to keep ahead of this thing.

[dankrutka]

Really good article on what is probably the final surge:

The Fourth Surge Is Upon Us. This Time, It’s Different.
A deadlier and more transmissible variant has taken root, but now we have the tools to stop it if we want.

Tufekci's basic argument is that we should move to vaccinate areas where there are surges to slow it down. Also, to hold on just a bit longer before opening things... we're almost there.