First National Center

[soonerguru]

I've heard that Ruth's Chris has pulled out. I hope they find a good replacement.

Oh well. Plenty of steak to go around downtown.

[Pete]

It would be nice to finally get one of the big seafood chains here, but not sure people in OKC would support it.

[Plutonic Panda]

A Pappadeaux or McCormick and Schmick’s would be amazing.

[Bowser214]

It's definitely Prime real estate lol no pun intended. We have enough local talent for someone to open up a high end steak house.

[gopokes88]

Hopefully one of the local operators opens a new concept in it.

This and the skirvin will compete to be OKC's flagship hotel, makes a better impression to have a local spot for visitors than a Ruth Chris

[Plutonic Panda]

There are tons of local options in downtown. Not everything has to be local and large chains can be run well with great food— there are plenty of them out there. Sometimes a well reputable chain can be a better impression for visitors than everything being local.

I’d also like to see a Fogo de Chao at the FNC.

[citywokchinesefood]

Hopefully one of the local operators opens a new concept in it.

This and the skirvin will compete to be OKC's flagship hotel, makes a better impression to have a local spot for visitors than a Ruth Chris

At this point the Skirvin is a shell of itself. The Colcord is one of the nicest hotels in the entire Midwest let alone the city.

[TheTravellers]

At this point the Skirvin is a shell of itself. ...

Really? How so? Honest question because I don't think I've stayed at an OKC hotel since, well, um, decades ago, maybe, just read stories and have seen pics, but haven't ever stayed at one.

[Lafferty Daniel]

At this point the Skirvin is a shell of itself. The Colcord is one of the nicest hotels in the entire Midwest let alone the city.

Oklahoma is not part of the midwest, it's considered the south or southwest. But your point is right, the Colcord is very nice.

[Plutonic Panda]

Many maps claim Oklahoma to be part of the southwest and I’ve always thought of it like that. I can’t remember if it was OKCTalk or another forum but I made this very argument and you would have thought I was trying to make an argument for murdering puppies.

[Dob Hooligan]

Many maps claim Oklahoma to be part of the southwest and I’ve always thought of it like that. I can’t remember if it was OKCTalk or another forum but I made this very argument and you would have thought I was trying to make an argument for murdering puppies.

I'm convinced the term "Heartland" was coined to sidestep that argument.

[TheTravellers]

OK is neither Southwest nor Midwest, it's part of the (Great) Plains.

[Rover]

[QUOTE=citywokchinesefood;1161316]At this point the Skirvin is a shell of itself. The Colcord is one of the nicest hotels in the entire Midwest let alone the city.[/QUOTE

My guess is that you haven't been there or stay there. Skirvin is very nice. Nicer than it was when it closed, by far.

[Plutonic Panda]

I'm convinced the term "Heartland" was coined to sidestep that argument.

Lol okay

[Lafferty Daniel]

OK is neither Southwest nor Midwest, it's part of the (Great) Plains.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...ted_States.svg

[Plutonic Panda]

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...ted_States.svg

https://www.fws.gov/southwest/AboutUs/

[TheTravellers]

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...ted_States.svg

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Plains

So which is right - a census definition or geological definition? I'd go with geological, but guess it depends on your situation.

Edit - just saw Panda's post. Personally, I'd go with a science-based definition rather than a government-defined definition, but as I said, guess it depends.

[Lafferty Daniel]

https://www.fws.gov/southwest/AboutUs/

Yup, as I said in my first post on this, Oklahoma is considered part of the south or southwest. My point in providing the picture I did was to show that he was wrong when he said "Oklahoma is neither south nor midwest".

[Plutonic Panda]

It’s an interesting debate for sure. What’s even more interesting than where is Oklahoma is where the hell is Texas!? Well, my guess would be Texas is just Texas. LOL

[soonerguru]

A Pappadeaux or McCormick and Schmick’s would be amazing.

Both of these are quality-run establishments, but not earth shattering.

Agree with Pete about a quality seafood enterprise, and, if we are talking about high-quality upscale seafood chains (Pappadeaux is casual more so than upscale), my vote would go to The Oceanaire. Having dined several times at M&S and Pappadeaux locations, Oceanaire would be a major step up, and a real destination seafood joint for Oklahoma City.

We really need to expand our seafood options beyond Cajun.

https://www.theoceanaire.com

[catch22]

Culturally Oklahoma has very little in common with the southwest. I would consider the cultural "southwest" to be SoCal, Arizona, southern Utah, NM, and Southern Colo. Oklahoma's culture is much more in line with Kansas and Texas than it is the west. But this is off topic...

[Plutonic Panda]

Culturally Oklahoma has very little in common with the southwest. I would consider the cultural "southwest" to be SoCal, Arizona, southern Utah, NM, and Southern Colo. Oklahoma's culture is much more in line with Kansas and Texas than it is the west. But this is off topic...

I get a completely different vibe when I’m in Kansas but maybe that’s just me. Texas? I suppose the alternative would be to label Oklahoma an extension of Texas lol.

OKC comes off as a mixture of Midwest and southwest and Tulsa seems like more of a southern type city.

[Plutonic Panda]

Both of these are quality-run establishments, but not earth shattering.

Agree with Pete about a quality seafood enterprise, and, if we are talking about high-quality upscale seafood chains (Pappadeaux is casual more so than upscale), my vote would go to The Oceanaire. Having dined several times at M&S and Pappadeaux locations, Oceanaire would be a major step up, and a real destination seafood joint for Oklahoma City.

We really need to expand our seafood options beyond Cajun.

https://www.theoceanaire.com

Whelp, I’m now going to drive to Dallas within the next week or two to check this place out. It looks amazing.

[soonerguru]

Whelp, I’m now going to drive to Dallas within the next week or two to check this place out. It looks amazing.

Bring lots of cash.

[TheTravellers]

...

We really need to expand our seafood options beyond Cajun....[/URL]

We have The Drake (if they're still open), but yeah, one higher-end seafood restaurant isn't enough.