Covid-19 in OKC (coronavirus)

[PoliSciGuy]

Communal responsibilities aren't authoritarian. I'm not saying that we need to forcefully inoculate people against their will, but there is absolutely a social responsibility people have to get vaccinated. If folks want to shirk that responsibility they are free to do so, but there is a moral cost to it.

[OKC Talker]

Interesting that they chose to use anti-depressants as an example. Refusing to take your medication gets you a "noncompliant" label in your medical chart with the implication that you're a danger to yourself and others. That's a pretty appropriate description for the anti-vaxxers too.

[Bill Robertson]

Interesting that they chose to use anti-depressants as an example. Refusing to take your medication gets you a "noncompliant" label in your medical chart with the implication that you're a danger to yourself and others. That's a pretty appropriate description for the anti-vaxxers too.

True about the anti-depressants. The comparison to marriage is asinine. Declining to wed has no possible effect on anybody but you and your would have been spouse if there was one. Vaccine refusers could have a negative effect on many people.

[Canoe]

True about the anti-depressants. The comparison to marriage is asinine. Declining to wed has no possible effect on anybody but you and your would have been spouse if there was one. Vaccine refusers could have a negative effect on many people.

I think your friend's point is that there is social pressure to marry and start a family. How many times have family members and friends asked a young man or women if or when they were getting married. How many times have they asked when they will have children? The social pressure to conform is similar to the social pressure PoliSci advocates above.

[Bill Robertson]

I think your friend's point is that there is social pressure to marry and start a family. How many times have family members and friends asked a young man or women if or when they were getting married. How many times have they asked when they will have children? The social pressure to conform is similar to the social pressure PoliSci advocates above.

I just can't put social pressure to marry in the same stratosphere as stopping a pandemic virus.

[Pete]

Only 380 new cases today; 7-day rolling average 719. Today's total is the lowest since last August.

Strangely, deaths are near all-time highs with 50 more reported today. I realize these numbers are delayed (47 were in January) but I'm surprised at the recent daily totals, as the cases and hospitalizations have been down for a couple of months. 7-day rolling average 39.3.


Updated hospitalization data will be released this evening.

[Canoe]

I just can't put social pressure to marry in the same stratosphere as stopping a pandemic virus.

I understand. I am just trying to let you see what your friend probably meant by his post. Now that you know how your friend feels about the subject you can proceed to make your judgements and take your actions.

Pressure to conform is as old as society and the reaction to real or perceived pressure is pretty well known and understood. Given your age you should understand this fact better than most of the younger people on this board.

[Bill Robertson]

I understand. I am just trying to let you see what your friend probably meant by his post. Now that you know how your friend feels about the subject you can proceed to make your judgements and take your actions.

Pressure to conform is as old as society and the reaction to real or perceived pressure is pretty well known and understood. Given your age you should understand this fact better than most of the younger people on this board.

I think social pressure is a much bigger thing to younger people. People I know of my age didn't give a rats what anyone thought about what we did or said when we were young and as we've aged we care even less.
Now everyone is supposed to walk on eggshells so as to not hurt anyones feelings.

[DowntownMan]

Is there any chart that correctly reports death by actual date of death not the date it was reported?

With the high death counts showing up, I’d be curious to know how far back these occurred or if they are recent. The date of report does nothing for understanding the situation of the day

[Bill Robertson]

Only 380 new cases today; 7-day rolling average 719. Today's total is the lowest since last August.

Strangely, deaths are near all-time highs with 50 more reported today. I realize these numbers are delayed (47 were in January) but I'm surprised at the recent daily totals, as the cases and hospitalizations have been down for a couple of months. 7-day rolling average 39.3.


Updated hospitalization data will be released this evening.

Deaths in January and early February would be in the lag window of the earlier very high cases probably caused by the holidays right?

[Bill Robertson]

Covidtracking.com has OK as 25th in hospitalizations per 1mil people and tied for 19th for new cases per 100k people. Much better than a few weeks ago.

[Jersey Boss]

Covidtracking.com has OK as 25th in hospitalizations per 1mil people and tied for 19th for new cases per 100k people. Much better than a few weeks ago.

Covidtracking.com has these caveats on the Oklahoma numbers.

Data Reporting Assessment (Learn more about data quality assessments)


Some issues exist for state-level metrics

Some issues exist for race and ethnicity data

Some issues exist for long-term care data

[Bill Robertson]

Covidtracking.com has these caveats on the Oklahoma numbers.

Data Reporting Assessment (Learn more about data quality assessments)


Some issues exist for state-level metrics

Some issues exist for race and ethnicity data

Some issues exist for long-term care data

Thanks. I missed that. They're going offline in a week or so anyway.
Edit: I just went and checked a number of states on their site. The "Some issues" comments seem to be a standard disclaimer accross the board.

OK, The CDC has us ranked 28 in 7 day average of new cases per 100k so that's even better

[FighttheGoodFight]

It looks like we have about 2k more deaths than reported. Today they said all of the CDC deaths get counted later.

https://twitter.com/KassieMcClung/st...835116034?s=20

[Pete]

It looks like we have about 2k more deaths than reported. Today they said all of the CDC deaths get counted later.

https://twitter.com/KassieMcClung/st...835116034?s=20

If you use the CDC number for deaths, Oklahoma would be #15 in deaths per capita due to Covid-19.

We are #8 in infections per capita.

[FighttheGoodFight]

If you use the CDC number for deaths, Oklahoma would be #15 in deaths per capita due to Covid-19.

We are #8 in infections per capita.

That being said, other states could also be doing the same thing with their reporting.

[Bill Robertson]

Please allow me to vent.

Recap: Mom tested positive and was symptomatic a few weeks ago. The nursing home sent her to Mercy. Mercy released her to a rehab facility after a week or so.

Currently: Rehab called saying mom is now incapable of doing anything for herself. Barely coherent. And there's no expectation of improvement so she needs to go back to the nursing home. She was in the minimal care wing before Covid. She'll be going back to the maximum care wing. I've been in there and I hate this necessity. And, of course, we still can't see her. Hopefully at least that might change soon.

So, and I know there aren't many if any on this board so I don't mean you. But for those out there that still think the virus, masks, distancing, other precautions and the vaccines are a joke, fake or some conspiracy I can't say on a public board what I think of your opinions and I try not to even use such language but I really want to right now.

[oklip955]

I'm with you on that that many people think the masks and social distancing is a joke. I had to go to two stores and at the check out since I was social distancing like I am suppose to, the jerks picked up my stuff from the check out and moved it some place else and tried to put their stuff down. At one of the stores I was trying to swipe my card, the clerk stepped back and since they were not items that needed bagging the jerk picked them up and carried them off to another place. The clerk was telling him I was swiping my card to pay. What is it with these people? Its seems that no one has common respect or patience anymore.

[soonerguru]

I'm with you on that that many people think the masks and social distancing is a joke. I had to go to two stores and at the check out since I was social distancing like I am suppose to, the jerks picked up my stuff from the check out and moved it some place else and tried to put their stuff down. At one of the stores I was trying to swipe my card, the clerk stepped back and since they were not items that needed bagging the jerk picked them up and carried them off to another place. The clerk was telling him I was swiping my card to pay. What is it with these people? Its seems that no one has common respect or patience anymore.

I have now had the first of two Pfizer vaccinations, but my position on entering businesses has not changed, and probably won't even after I have the second shot (at least until my wife is vaccinated). Here is my position on businesses akin to what you reference:

I will not patronize ANY business that does not minimally to the best of their ability enforce OKC's mask ordinance. I do want to know which businesses are which, because I will continue to not patronize them after this is "all over."

No, I will not spend $$$ in an establishment that doesn't care if my wife or parents get sick and die. I know, it's a very high bar to clear.

[Bill Robertson]

I have now had the first of two Pfizer vaccinations, but my position on entering businesses has not changed, and probably won't even after I have the second shot (at least until my wife is vaccinated). Here is my position on businesses akin to what you reference:

I will not patronize ANY business that does not minimally to the best of their ability enforce OKC's mask ordinance. I do want to know which businesses are which, because I will continue to not patronize them after this is "all over."

No, I will not spend $$$ in an establishment that doesn't care if my wife or parents get sick and die. I know, it's a very high bar to clear.

I'm with you!

[Bill Robertson]

Heard on the news that the City Council has extending the mask mandate until April 30 on today's agenda. Should be a no brainer. I wish they'd just go ahead and make it something like August 31.

[LocoAko]

It was reported at City Council this morning that 24% (!!!) of Oklahoma City has received at least one vaccine dose so far. That is fantastic and better than I thought we'd be doing. My home county in NJ is at a whopping 9%.

Relatedly, I was able to get a vaccine appointment for next week through the Chickasaw Nation and I'm so excited! It would have been months otherwise. They've done so well vaccinating tribal members that they've opened up to educators (at all levels, not just K-12) and their families regardless of tribal membership. What an amazing community effort that we should all feel very gracious for. I've also heard of other tribes giving out doses without precondition once their appointments/obligated doses have filled up. Might explain in part why Oklahoma is doing so well vaccinating so far.

[Pete]

Only 111 new cases today; 7-day rolling average down to 684.

56 additional deaths; 7-day rolling average an all-time high at 43.9.

Hospitalizations are 447 (-37).

ICU is 134 (-16).

[DowntownMan]

Only 111 new cases today; 7-day rolling average down to 684.

56 additional deaths; 7-day rolling average an all-time high at 43.9.

Hospitalizations are 447 (-37).

ICU is 134 (-16).

Well looks like the freeze keeping many home and everything closed for a few days paid off

[Bill Robertson]

Well looks like the freeze keeping many home and everything closed for a few days paid off

That was my first thought. But then I looked at the US and Oklahoma new case graphs with 7 day average and average lines are very similar. The whole country wasn't in the deep freeze so while that was definitely a factor here there's something else affecting the new case numbers nationwide.