Covid-19 in OKC (coronavirus)

[Bill Robertson]

Are those with comorbidities, immune system disorders, etc able to receive the vaccine yet?

I work in a retail HQ with around 300 employees, our HR emailed late last week that some in the company had already received the vaccine, and I was scratching my head wondering how that was happening, only thing that came to mind was maybe it's those in the high risk that are able to get vaccinated...?

This is from News 4 story from the definition of Phase 2 section:
"Adults age 65 and older, and adults of any age with comorbidities
Older adults and adults with one or multiple comorbid conditions including but not limited to hypertension, obesity, cardiovascular disease, diabetes mellitus, chronic lung, liver or renal disease, cancers, who are at high risk of mortality and several morbidity resulting from COVID infection.

Officials say this will affect 635,000 Oklahomans."

[TheTravellers]

The Pfizer vaccine lasts 5 days in a normal refrigerator after it comes out of super cold storage. It gets diluted for shots and last up to 2 hours after dilution.

And the Moderna vaccine's storage is more tolerant than that - between -13 and 5 degrees frozen, and lasts 30 days in the fridge.

[king183]

I absolutely reject this lack of recent compliance is due to the individualistic nature of our culture; it's 100% down to politicians lying to deflect blame and protect their own base of power. 100%.

100% agree with this. It’s driven by the failure/incompetence/selfishness of our political leaders and the seemingly increasing tendency of Americans to tribalize (new word?) around a person at the expense of American society at large.

[Pete]

^

I hate bringing politics into non-political threads but it's ridiculous not to point out the obvious and/or pretend this issue has not negatively influenced every single aspect of how this country has handled the pandemic.

History is going to be very, very unkind to these leaders and the people that enabled them.

[Pete]

Oklahoma now 15th in per capita cases; we continue to move up after having a big headstart with few cases and even though almost every other state is experiencing a big surge.

Completely predictable given the leadership or complete lack thereof in our state.

[silvergrove]

I got my jab yesterday, appointment was a breeze scheduling it but I don't live in Oklahoma anymore so that's probably why. I'm shocked at how the vaccine rollout/pandemic response is handled as I've got family to worry about still in OK. A family member who works in OU med mentioned that morale is really low.

[d-usa]

We decided to let states and the private system handle it. There are reports of hospitals and other facilities canceling shifts needed to administer more vaccine doses because of overtime. The same people needed for vaccinations are also busy working shifts on covid units and working increasing shifts at testing sites.

[BDP]

Our response to COVID has basically redefined America's potential for an entire generation. We are no longer a nation. We are basally some states and a couple of political parties. Ideas of collective greatness no longer exist in this country.

In the same way that our leadership after WWII elevated the US to the the pinnacle of a "virtuous" world power, our dismal and disastrous approach to this world crises has defined us for the next three generations.

How do we explain to our children that the most resourceful country in the world chose this for its people?

[silvergrove]

We decided to let states and the private system handle it. There are reports of hospitals and other facilities canceling shifts needed to administer more vaccine doses because of overtime. The same people needed for vaccinations are also busy working shifts on covid units and working increasing shifts at testing sites.

It sounds like we're dropping a lot of troops into a war zone, giving them weapons, and telling them "go win the war" with no guidance.

[mugofbeer]

How would you have done it differently?

There was an entire extensive distribution plan from the CDC sent out to states in October.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...ChHbYk95vCV7MG

[silvergrove]

West Virginia seems to be doing a better job by using state government resources, public health entities and the National Guard: https://www.whsv.com/2020/12/21/west...more-vaccines/

Here's a map of % for each state: https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/c...-distribution/

Or some additional details: https://www.washingtonpost.com/graph...ibution-doses/

[SouthOfTheVillage]

Our response to COVID has basically redefined America's potential for an entire generation. We are no longer a nation. We are basally some states and a couple of political parties. Ideas of collective greatness no longer exist in this country.

In the same way that our leadership after WWII elevated the US to the the pinnacle of a "virtuous" world power, our dismal and disastrous approach to this world crises has defined us for the next three generations.

How do we explain to our children that the most resourceful country in the world chose this for its people?

This country has been a mess—socially, politically, and economically—for the better part of 40 years. We decided that easy access to cheap goods was more important than the growth of the middle class.

So, the seeds for this disaster were planted long ago. That Trump and Hilary were 2016’s presidential candidates is only further proof.

[Bill Robertson]

Stupidity at its worst. I'll never get it. I want to be in something like this for OU but not now. If everyone would stay the hell home we'd get back to doing this safely faster.

[Pete]

2,699 new cases today; 7-day rolling average now 3,455 down slightly from the all-time high.

5 additional reported deaths; 7-day rolling average 24.1.


Hospitalization data will be updated this evening.

[ksearls]

Any chance we can start a new thread to share current vaccine location information? I am driving my mom to Elk City Thursday but sure would like to find one closer to home.

[Pete]

Any chance we can start a new thread to share current vaccine location information? I am driving my mom to Elk City Thursday but sure would like to find one closer to home.

Excellent idea:

https://www.okctalk.com/showthread.p...02#post1151602

[ksearls]

Excellent idea:

https://www.okctalk.com/showthread.p...02#post1151602

Thanks so much!

[dankrutka]

It's pretty unreal how bad the federal and state leadership on vaccine distribution is. I mean, why are there not systems in place for distributing, signing up for, and administering the vaccine? There should literally be 24/7 sites where people are getting vaccinated. Considering the unemployment crisis, why not temporarily employ people to support these efforts like a New Deal program? We should be treating this like a war effort. The incompetence is staggering. Instead, we're literally at risk of big batches of the vaccine expiring before they can be administered.

Sources:

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/31/o...-expiring.html

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/30/h...w-rollout.html

Having said all that, according to this map, Oklahoma is above average among state vaccine distribution:
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...ine-doses.html

[Thomas Vu]

No kidding. I was baffled when I saw a few posts saying that there are sign ups via facebook. Seriously, facebook?

[Pete]

Keep in mind that many people don't have Facebook let alone a computer and the internet. Especially those over 65 who are in most need of the vaccine.

It's a darn good thing this virus isn't worse than it's proven to be because I think most our country would be wiped out due to the ridiculous politics, in-fighting, outright lies, and lethal combination of denial, ineptitude and disinterest.

[dankrutka]

It's a darn good thing this virus isn't worse than it's proven to be because I think most our country would be wiped out due to the ridiculous politics, in-fighting, outright lies, and lethal combination of denial, ineptitude and disinterest.

Let me tell you about another slow burn crisis called climate change...

[mugofbeer]

It's pretty unreal how bad the federal and state leadership on vaccine distribution is. I mean, why are there not systems in place for distributing, signing up for, and administering the vaccine? There should literally be 24/7 sites where people are getting vaccinated. Considering the unemployment crisis, why not temporarily employ people to support these efforts like a New Deal program? We should be treating this like a war effort. The incompetence is staggering. Instead, we're literally at risk of big batches of the vaccine expiring before they can be administered.

Sources:

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/31/o...-expiring.html

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/30/h...w-rollout.html

Having said all that, according to this map, Oklahoma is above average among state vaccine distribution:
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...ine-doses.html

There are systems and guidelines for distribution and administration of the vaccine both on both the state and Federal level. Just google.

Signup plans are another matter. It seems something should be out on Thursday for Oklahoma. There still isn't anything for Colorado on a statewide basis. Counties seem to be doing this at that level.

[Bill Robertson]

From CNN. Not a decision anyone should have to make.

"With intensive care units at Southern California hospitals nearly full because of the Covid-19 pandemic, the Los Angeles County Emergency Medical Services Agency (EMS) has directed ambulance crews not to transport patients with little chance of survival to hospitals, and to conserve the use of oxygen."

[Pete]

^

I have a good friend who is an ER doctor in L.A. and she's posted a few photos.

It's a horrific, ugly scene.

All the idiot deniers and minimizers should be made to go work a couple of hospital shifts and put their own lives at risk.

[jn1780]

There are systems and guidelines for distribution and administration of the vaccine both on both the state and Federal level. Just google.

Signup plans are another matter. It seems something should be out on Thursday for Oklahoma. There still isn't anything for Colorado on a statewide basis. Counties seem to be doing this at that level.

It will speed up pretty rapidly I'm sure in the coming weeks as supply ramps up. At the end of the day, there is still a limited supply of doses available and officials were too cautious in making sure that there was enough doses for all of phase 1. They turned the rate down too much.

Once there is plenty of doses available, you actually can start ramping up other resources in a more "free for all" type of lottery system.