Covid-19 in OKC (coronavirus)

[Jersey Boss]

I've not seen any reports of localities running out of the vaccine as of yet. I know about the early reports that states didn't get as much of the product as expected but the folks who give the shots seem to have what they need. What l am seeing is a lack of understanding by the public of the signup process and a shortage of people to administer the vaccinations.

I don't believe, as of yet, these two issues would fall under the responsibility of the federal government but the state and local administrators.

I was told by a relative in medicine that a significant problem in the planning and scheduling the different groups is that 40% of front-line medical workers refuse to get vaccinated as are a significant number of seniors. This is nationwide.

The FEDERAL government promised 20 million vaccinations by 12-31. They fell about 18 million short.
It is the fault of the Feds on piss poor distribution plan.

[dankrutka]

I was told by a relative in medicine that a significant problem in the planning and scheduling the different groups is that 40% of front-line medical workers refuse to get vaccinated as are a significant number of seniors. This is nationwide.

I find it really hard to believe that 40% of frontline healthcare workers would refuse the vaccine.

[C_M_25]

I find it really hard to believe that 40% of frontline healthcare workers would refuse the vaccine.

I saw a similar article that put the number as high as 50% are refusing it. This referenced those working in retirement homes. Frankly, if you’re working with/around the elderly and you refuse the vaccine, you should lose your job...period.

It’s going to be hard to meet minimum thresholds for herd immunity via vaccine this year...

[Pete]

I don't believe, as of yet, these two issues would fall under the responsibility of the federal government but the state and local administrators.

There hasn't been proper planning and guidelines handed down from above. That's the problem.

Mitt Romney:

"That comprehensive vaccination plans have not been developed at the federal level and sent to the states as models is as incomprehensible as it is inexcusable," Romney, who represents Utah, said in a statement Friday.

Romney said the plan to rely on hospitals and pharmacies that are already overburdened was "unrealistic."

[Jeepnokc]

Will be interesting to see what employers do if front line workers are refusing the vaccine. This is from an article I read that gives a basic summary. (Hopefully I credited it right by giving person's name making statement and link to article)

As pandemic restrictions are gradually lifted and we go back to work, can your current (or prospective) employer force you to be vaccinated?

“Yes, for the most part, employers can mandate that employees be vaccinated,” University of Michigan law professor Kate Andrias told Healthline. “However, there are some exceptions.”

One exception falls under the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA). Under the ADA, “an employer must provide reasonable accommodations to workers who have medical conditions that make them unable to take the vaccine, if a reasonable accommodation is possible,” she said.

Another exception is covered by Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964.

According to Andrias, Title VII says employees may be able to refuse vaccinations if they have a sincerely held religious belief that precludes vaccination, and not being vaccinated doesn’t impose an undue hardship on the employer.

However, “a personal or political opposition to vaccination is not sufficient,” she clarified. https://www.healthline.com/health-ne...lished-in-2009

[Pete]

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That is very similar to school districts which generally require kids to have certain vaccinations... And it makes total sense because you have a responsibility to everyone in school or that you employ.

[d-usa]

One primary objective of the federal “plan” is to date not interfere with private business’ ability to make money from administering it.

[Pete]

They didn't report yesterday, so today's number is for 2 days, 5,119 new cases.

Same with deaths which were 38.

[Libbymin]

The News9 article said that today’s numbers were for 1/1 and that tomorrow’s numbers will include both 1/2 and 1/3 numbers.

[Pete]

The News9 article said that today’s numbers were for 1/1 and that tomorrow’s numbers will include both 1/2 and 1/3 numbers.

They said that for Christmas too and the subsequent numbers didn't seem to match.

[d-usa]

We’ll have to look at the 7 day averages to figure out the real trends. At least both weeks have the same reporting issue, so it should be fairly accurate that way.

[Jersey Boss]

Kelly Ogle has contracted it. Channel 9 has been noted for the coziness of their anchors on the set. No accomadation for social distancing.

[BDP]

Here's data and an interactive map tracking vaccine distribution. I don't think it's been posted yet:

COVID-19 Vaccinations in the United States​

Currently for Oklahoma, it says we've been given 180,750 doses, and administered 58,823.

[mugofbeer]

There hasn't been proper planning and guidelines handed down from above. That's the problem.

Mitt Romney:

https://www.npr.org/2021/01/01/95271...id-19-vaccines

Looks like they have a plan. When your vaccine is hard to handle, hard to store, must be monitored constantly, must be documented at each step, must be administered by trained technicians who, due to a surge in virus cases are busy treating people, sometimes the game plan is applied the best way possible.

It's easy to criticise but it's probably a whole lot harder to oversee the ditribution of 600 million doses of vaccine. Lincoln Riley always has a great opening drive game plan. After that, they try to stick with it but adjustments must always be made.

When anywhere from 30 -60% of health care workers are hesitant to get vaccinated along with large numbers of elderly, it throws a huge wrench in your game plan.

Mitch Romney is a good guy but he's not God and if you look past the political pages on the vaccinations, you'll see what you were expecting never was very likely.

The CDC game plan:

https://www.cdc.gov › vaccinesPDF

COVID-19 Vaccination Program Interim Playbook - CDC

[HangryHippo]

https://www.npr.org/2021/01/01/95271...id-19-vaccines

Looks like they have a plan. When your vaccine is hard to handle, hard to store, must be monitored constantly, must be documented at each step, must be administered by trained technicians who, due to a surge in virus cases are busy treating people, sometimes the game plan is applied the best way possible.

It's easy to criticise but it's probably a whole lot harder to oversee the ditribution of 600 million doses of vaccine. Lincoln Riley always has a great opening drive game plan. After that, they try to stick with it but adjustments must always be made.

When anywhere from 30 -60% of health care workers are hesitant to get vaccinated along with large numbers of elderly, it throws a huge wrench in your game plan.

Mitch Romney is a good guy but he's not God and if you look past the political pages on the vaccinations, you'll see what you were expecting never was very likely.

The CDC game plan:

https://www.cdc.gov › vaccinesPDF

COVID-19 Vaccination Program Interim Playbook - CDC

What about Mitt Romney?

[Pete]

Looks like they have a plan.

They have missed their own stated goal by almost 90%.

[mkjeeves]

https://www.npr.org/2021/01/01/95271...id-19-vaccines

Looks like they have a plan. When your vaccine is hard to handle, hard to store, must be monitored constantly, must be documented at each step, must be administered by trained technicians who, due to a surge in virus cases are busy treating people, sometimes the game plan is applied the best way possible.

It's easy to criticise but it's probably a whole lot harder to oversee the ditribution of 600 million doses of vaccine. Lincoln Riley always has a great opening drive game plan. After that, they try to stick with it but adjustments must always be made.

When anywhere from 30 -60% of health care workers are hesitant to get vaccinated along with large numbers of elderly, it throws a huge wrench in your game plan.

Mitch Romney is a good guy but he's not God and if you look past the political pages on the vaccinations, you'll see what you were expecting never was very likely.

The CDC game plan:

https://www.cdc.gov › vaccinesPDF

COVID-19 Vaccination Program Interim Playbook - CDC

It's polled for months that huge numbers of people are resistant to getting vaccinated. Another huge segment can't wait. When you don't include reality in your plan you don't have a plan.

[FighttheGoodFight]

Here's data and an interactive map tracking vaccine distribution. I don't think it's been posted yet:

COVID-19 Vaccinations in the United States​

Currently for Oklahoma, it says we've been given 180,750 doses, and administered 58,823.

Anecdote of a friend in Texas. He drove his wife in to get hers (healthcare worker) and they gave him one as well as they said they had some expiring. I find that scary they have some expiring.... If they opened this up for sign ups of anyone over 65 I am betting they could get those 130k done in a week.

[drinner-okc]

After taking the vaccine out of super cold storage, there is a short time frame to inject. Then it's no good. When my daughter got her injection, the other workers were real busy and almost missed the time limit

[mkjeeves]

After taking the vaccine out of super cold storage, there is a short time frame to inject. Then it's no good. When my daughter got her injection, the other workers were real busy and almost missed the time limit

The Pfizer vaccine lasts 5 days in a normal refrigerator after it comes out of super cold storage. It gets diluted for shots and last up to 2 hours after dilution.

[Pete]

8,017 new cases today; it had previously been reported that today would include both 1/2 and 1/3.

That means the 5,119 reported yesterday actually was for 1/1, a single-day record by a large margin.

In any event, the 7-day rolling average is now 3,562, an all-time high.

20 additional deaths; the 7-day rolling average is 25.3 just below the previous all-time high.


As predicted all the way along, things seem to be ramping up due to the holidays and I fear the worst is still to come.

[catcherinthewry]

It's going to get worse in the next couple of weeks. Hopefully after the surge we can turn the corner and start to see a decrease.


https://oklahoman.com/article/567940...homas-response

“Most of us believe that in 10 days to 14 days we’re going to see a substantial surge in the number of cases in Oklahoma that get reported,” he said. “Ten percent to 12 percent of those people are going to end up in a hospital, so we’re going to be really challenged in the next few weeks.”

[Bits_Of_Real_Panther]

Are those with comorbidities, immune system disorders, etc able to receive the vaccine yet?

I work in a retail HQ with around 300 employees, our HR emailed late last week that some in the company had already received the vaccine, and I was scratching my head wondering how that was happening, only thing that came to mind was maybe it's those in the high risk that are able to get vaccinated...?

[king183]

It's going to get worse in the next couple of weeks. Hopefully after the surge we can turn the corner and start to see a decrease.


https://oklahoman.com/article/567940...homas-response

“Most of us believe that in 10 days to 14 days we’re going to see a substantial surge in the number of cases in Oklahoma that get reported,” he said. “Ten percent to 12 percent of those people are going to end up in a hospital, so we’re going to be really challenged in the next few weeks.”

The only thing that will make this better is effective vaccine distribution and administration. We cannot trust our fellow citizens to take the necessary precautions—it’s a massive societal failure. Restaurants are full, bars packed, and people decided to gather for the holidays, despite CDC guidance. As a society, we’ve decided severe illness and death is acceptable as long as we get to eat brunch with our friends.

[Pete]

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This total lack of regard for others is particularly bad here for political reasons.

Just today our president, whose lead is strongly followed by our governor and the majority of Oklahomans, tweeted something ridiculous about the Covid deaths being largely exaggerated. Very quickly people who actually deal with this as their job totally rebuked him. It's unbelievable this is still happening at the highest level of government while thousands of Americans are dying and lying in hospital beds.

But of course, the fools who listen to him will continue to follow his example and repeat his lies as facts and demonstrate this craziness through their actions.


Remember after 9/11 when travel was severely curtailed and many travel-related businesses were ruined? There was not a peep of dissent due to leadership getting people to rally around the policies for the greater good.

I absolutely reject this lack of recent compliance is due to the individualistic nature of our culture; it's 100% down to politicians lying to deflect blame and protect their own base of power. 100%.