Covid-19 in OKC (coronavirus)

[Jeepnokc]

I was listening to an interview on NPR last week with an infectious disease expert about this very question. He basically said that all of the current vaccines work similarly and you should just take the first one that is available to you and not worry about which one it is.

Vaccine Expert: Once A COVID Vaccine Is Available, 'Don't Overthink It. Don't Wait'

I heard a medical professional the other day when asked this question - he said the best vaccine is the one you can get when offered. Both are over 90 % effective.

That's good to know that they both are equally effective and that it doesn't really matter. Thanks

[Pete]

I will be the first in line when this is available.

Really hoping that by this summer we will be starting to regain normalcy.

[Roger S]

I will be the first in line when this is available.

Really hoping that by this summer we will be starting to regain normalcy.

They should probably have everyone take a Meyers-Briggs test and move the extroverts to the top of the list..... Being the introvert I am. I can stay away from people indefinitely.... I'm perfectly fine hiking, mountain biking, and geocaching, for another year.

[PoliSciGuy]

I think people are underestimating how even small numbers of vaccines going out are going to impact numbers. There isn't going to be an exact, singular moment when this thing "ends," but rather a gradual, continual improvement as more people get vaccinated. While the vaccine will be widely available to all by April (hopefully), the world at that time will hopefully look a lot more normal than the world now. We just gotta get through this peak.

[Bill Robertson]

They should probably have everyone take a Meyers-Briggs test and move the extroverts to the top of the list..... Being the introvert I am. I can stay away from people indefinitely.... I'm perfectly fine hiking, mountain biking, and geocaching, for another year.

Hey! A fellow geocacher!!

[Bill Robertson]

I think people are underestimating how even small numbers of vaccines going out are going to impact numbers. There isn't going to be an exact, singular moment when this thing "ends," but rather a gradual, continual improvement as more people get vaccinated. While the vaccine will be widely available to all by April (hopefully), the world at that time will hopefully look a lot more normal than the world now. We just gotta get through this peak.

The UK is supposed to get 10 million doses starting next week. That should cover about 15% of the population. It will be interesting in a month or so to see how their trends are going by then. Hopefully pretty well.

[TheTravellers]

They should probably have everyone take a Meyers-Briggs test and move the extroverts to the top of the list..... Being the introvert I am. I can stay away from people indefinitely.... I'm perfectly fine hiking, mountain biking, and geocaching, for another year.

I'm an INTP, I'm good with all this distancing too. When we decided not to do Thanksgiving (we're the only good cooks in our family, so we get stuck a lot with holiday-type meals), we were so happy to just make a couple of things for ourselves and get caught up watching a bunch of shows we've missed. Having said that, however, we'll probably be first in line too, it'd be nice to eat in a restaurant again (especially Nonesuch, we cancelled our June reservation, we were looking forward to it so much), have only done that once since March (during the ice storm when our power was out).

[Pete]

The isolation is taking its toll on me.

I get energy from other people and thus I've been experiencing something like a low-grade depression for months now.

Also, this whole situation is destroying my businesses.


I usually love the holidays but this year, I am looking forward to spring and summer a lot more than usual.

[Martin]

They should probably have everyone take a Meyers-Briggs test and move the extroverts to the top of the list...

yeah... they'd probably end up giving me a voight-kampff test instead. : )

[Roger S]

The isolation is taking its toll on me.

I get energy from other people and thus I've been experiencing something like a low-grade depression for months now.
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My low grade depression kicks in when the time changes and goes away when I get my extra hour of sunlight back.

It's sad that so many businesses are suffering through this but at the same time this is where we will see the innovators that don't live in a static world thrive.... Change isn't always a bad thing.

I really hope the restaurant industry doesn't try to return to "normal" after this because who knows when it happens again with another virus.

[corwin1968]

The isolation is taking its toll on me.

I get energy from other people and thus I've been experiencing something like a low-grade depression for months now.

Also, this whole situation is destroying my businesses.


I usually love the holidays but this year, I am looking forward to spring and summer a lot more than usual.

I've taken the Myers-Briggs at least four times and unofficial versions online many times and I always come out with a very strong preference for Introversion (INFP is my type) but I do require some level of social interaction with people.

I work in the schools and with no students and all staff quarantining in their rooms/offices, it has been a miserable experience for me. Plus, the resentment at having to needlessly go in to work and potentially be exposed to the virus has compounded the misery. And the superintendent keeps looking for reasons/ways to bring people back into the buildings. I just don't get it.

I tend to disagree, politically, with most of the posters on this board and I hate how politics colors almost every subject (generally speaking of our society, not this board), but I'm 100% with the members here on Covid-19. I've been pleasantly surprised by how many conservative leaning people I know have discarded the political aspect of this pandemic and are taking it very seriously. Maybe there is hope for us as a society.

[jerrywall]

You really can't talk these people away from it. I have listened and brought up evidence and you get met with "Well they are just making up COVID deaths and they aren't really that high."

It's really sad.

I was talking to my wife about it, and we do think there's a lot of folks who are just digging in because at this point admitting they were wrong is just unimaginable. For one, as a society we're not good about letting people be wrong and then moving on. We mock it. We disdain it. We say "too little too late" or whatever else. However we respond, we rarely commend it, even though we should.

But, larger than that, I think folks know, at some level, that admitting they were wrong will also imply some culpability for the unnecessary deaths that have occurred. That's something that I can imagine a lot of people would have a problem with accepting or admitting to themselves.

None of this excuses those people, but I think we can be cognizant of their thinking and reasoning. It's leading me to accept that there is just a segment of the population that will never accept or do what needs to be done. They can't.

[Pete]

2,859 new cases today; 7-day rolling average now 2,571.

54 (!!) additional reported deaths; that is more than double the previous 1-day high.

Hospitalizations rate 1,782 (+64) and ICU 475 (+14), both all-time highs.

[PoliSciGuy]

Yeah the state needs to start releasing the actual date of death for these folks, this amorphous total doesn't really tell us a lot.

[FighttheGoodFight]

Yeah the state needs to start releasing the actual date of death for these folks, this amorphous total doesn't really tell us a lot.

I was typing the same thing up. They need to let us know when the deaths occured. I know they have HIPAA issues and all that but is this just a backup from the holidays or did these people die yesterday or three weeks ago?!

[TheTravellers]

...
None of this excuses those people, but I think we can be cognizant of their thinking and reasoning. It's leading me to accept that there is just a segment of the population that will never accept or do what needs to be done. They can't.

Read this article this morning, coincidentally. How do you even begin to try to find someplace to start if someone won't recognize actual facts and truth? BTW, facts can and do change *my* mind, just to be clear.

These psychological mechanisms explain why facts won’t change anyone’s mind

[Pete]

Yeah the state needs to start releasing the actual date of death for these folks, this amorphous total doesn't really tell us a lot.

Does the extra day really matter?

The main things are the totals and the trends.

7-day rolling average is now 18.9, by far the highest it's ever been.

[PoliSciGuy]

Does the extra day really matter?

The main things are the totals and the trends.

7-day rolling average is now 18.9, by far the highest it's ever been.

It's not just one day. These deaths go all the way back to October apparently and we still don't have a clear outline of the process the state goes through when it reports these deaths. If we knew date of death it would help us know if there was a recent spike or a backloading of data. Most folks will just glance at the 54 number and be (rightfully!) shocked, without looking further and realizing that some of this is month-old data.

[Pete]

It's not just one day. These deaths go all the way back to October apparently and we still don't have a clear outline of the process the state goes through when it reports these deaths. If we knew date of death it would help us know if there was a recent spike or a backloading of data. Most folks will just glance at the 54 number and be (rightfully!) shocked, without looking further and realizing that some of this is month-old data.

This was in the daily email; I still don't think it much matters:

Of the 54 deaths reported today:

The deaths occurred between Oct. 24 and Nov. 30, 2020
37 occurred since Nov. 26
47 decedents were aged 65+
6 decedents were 50-64 years of age
1 decedent was 18-35 years of age

[Rover]

Non hepa filters rated MERV-13 can catch most viruses, but are more expensive.

It's not just one day. These deaths go all the way back to October apparently and we still don't have a clear outline of the process the state goes through when it reports these deaths. If we knew date of death it would help us know if there was a recent spike or a backloading of data. Most folks will just glance at the 54 number and be (rightfully!) shocked, without looking further and realizing that some of this is month-old data.

Maybe they'll be shocked that previous deaths were under reported, and probably are still being underreported.

[OKCretro]

This was in the daily email; I still don't think it much matters:

Of the 54 deaths reported today:

The deaths occurred between Oct. 24 and Nov. 30, 2020
37 occurred since Nov. 26
47 decedents were aged 65+
6 decedents were 50-64 years of age
1 decedent was 18-35 years of age

Anyone know the reason why they don't split up deaths more?
why not to 65-80 and then 80+. Just using 65+ is such huge group.

[Bill Robertson]

Anyone know the reason why they don't split up deaths more?
why not to 65-80 and then 80+. Just using 65+ is such huge group.

Look at the weekly Epidemiology reports on the OSDH site. They do break it down to 10 year age periods. 15 to 24, 25 to 34 etc.

[soonerguru]

Anyone know the reason why they don't split up deaths more?
why not to 65-80 and then 80+. Just using 65+ is such huge group.

Why would that matter?

[soonerguru]

Yeah the state needs to start releasing the actual date of death for these folks, this amorphous total doesn't really tell us a lot.

Always expect a post like this after a day in which a large number of deaths are reported. Like clockwork.

[Rover]

Why would that matter?

Because it allows people to segregate and feel less sympathy towards the older groups (they would have died soon anyway, right?).