Covid-19 in OKC (coronavirus)

[king183]

I went to a local hospital with a family member who was having surgery. We arrived very early in the morning, so we were among the only people in the patient registration area and I could hear a nurse speaking to two family members of a patient who was on a ventilator. She was explaining that their family member would be removed from the ventilator later that day and was expected to die soon thereafter and because of the situation they would make an exception to their one visitor policy and allow two people to be in the room. The patient’s family had been asking for more people to be allowed in, but the nurse was very patiently explaining that they just couldn’t risk it.

I wonder how many times these nurses have had to give this exact explanation to worried family members. It was sad. And I can’t help but be angry at the ignorant and selfish people who still think this is a joke, including a few people on this forum I remember debating early on because this was “no worse than the flu.” Absurd.

[d-usa]

Our system doesn’t value people, only business and profit. We see it argued here just today. There is a reason why the US is one of the few major countries using it instead of this:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_market_economy

[dankrutka]

It’s not perfect, but it’s much better than any alternative.

lol. You can't possibly have studied health care systems and believe this. I can name a crapload of countries with better health care systems than the U.S. that value patients over pure profits. The way that capitalism interacts with the U.S. health care system is undeniably broken. And it's not even a free market because care is so often determined by lobbying, corporate handouts, and deceptive laws. It benefits the few and often leaves the most vulnerable screwed. A lot of countries have found far better ways to balance markets and care. Health care is just one of those issues where corporations shouldn't be able to maximize profits at any cost.

[Pete]

3,225 new cases today. They didn't report yesterday, so that drops the 7-day rolling average to 2,901.

24 additional deaths (for the last 2 days).

[d-usa]

https://www.koco.com/article/we-need...surge/34790274

Nurses are having to be allowed to work while positives; people are being shipped all over the state if we find any beds at all. Hospitals are full and overflowing and people are dying in hallways. But because our already overtaxed hospitals don’t have 40% covid patients, we are still not in red.

Our hospitals are failing because of the stress, but because of some arbitrary number everything is still “fine”.

[midtownokcer]

3,225 new cases today. They didn't report yesterday, so that drops the 7-day rolling average to 2,901.

24 additional deaths (for the last 2 days).

OSDH reported that today's numbers were actually for Thursday. Saturday's numbers will include both Friday and Saturday numbers. The 7 day average is actually 3,225.

"It is important to note that Friday’s updated data will include cases that would have otherwise been reported on Thursday. Saturday’s dashboard update will include case information that reflect a combined reporting from Friday and Saturday."

[Edmond Hausfrau]

I can't help but wonder if the state level response from OSDH is jumbled because of all the leadership changes. If you want to roll out something like contact tracer apps or Covid testing alerts in a pandemic, it helps if you have had consistency in leadership. We've changed commissioners, epidemiologists, as well as some cabinet level health posts. I really wonder how many people died in the state because of bureaucracy. Clear consistent messaging saves lives.

[Edmond Hausfrau]

https://www.koco.com/article/we-need...surge/34790274

Nurses are having to be allowed to work while positives; people are being shipped all over the state if we find any beds at all. Hospitals are full and overflowing and people are dying in hallways. But because our already overtaxed hospitals don’t have 40% covid patients, we are still not in red.

Our hospitals are failing because of the stress, but because of some arbitrary number everything is still “fine”.

Saw somewhere on social media where OKC Mercy was having to use a Guthrie bed and all I could think was, that is not the direction you want healthcare to flow. It needs to go from rural to tertiary centers. If those are overrun and you start moving patients in the opposite direction, bad things happen.

[Edmond Hausfrau]

I can't help but wonder if the state level response from OSDH is jumbled because of all the leadership changes. If you want to roll out something like contact tracer apps or Covid testing alerts in a pandemic, it helps if you have had consistency in leadership. We've changed commissioners, epidemiologists, as well as some cabinet level health posts. I really wonder how many people died in the state because of bureaucracy. Clear consistent messaging saves lives.

https://www.npr.org/2020/11/25/93887...-alarming-rate

[Bill Robertson]

https://www.npr.org/2020/11/25/93887...-alarming-rate

I saw a simple story on TV a couple weeks ago. I hadn't though of health provider quitting. But I do know a number of licensed RNs that never started working as nurses and wouldn't even consider it now.

[mugofbeer]

Saw somewhere on social media where OKC Mercy was having to use a Guthrie bed and all I could think was, that is not the direction you want healthcare to flow. It needs to go from rural to tertiary centers. If those are overrun and you start moving patients in the opposite direction, bad things happen.

Take this with a grain of salt because there are still Covid beds available.

[Libbymin]

My sister notified me today that her husband is showing symptoms and likely has it. Loss of taste and smelling and he’s feeling run down and has a persistent dry cough. What’s crazy is that they live in a rural part of England and the only places they’ve been during this recent lockdown is one of two grocery stores in town.

[oklip955]

My sister notified me today that her husband is showing symptoms and likely has it. Loss of taste and smelling and he’s feeling run down and has a persistent dry cough. What’s crazy is that they live in a rural part of England and the only places they’ve been during this recent lockdown is one of two grocery stores in town.

Well, my friend in Manchester said that according to the statistics from their tract and trace, grocery stores where the leading place of transmission of the virus in England. So yes this makes sense.

[Rover]

Take this with a grain of salt because there are still Covid beds available.

I’m not so sure. I took a family member to Mercy emergency a few days ago. There were no beds and a 5 hour wait... 1 1/2 hr just to get to triage nurse. My patient was sent by ambulance to another hospital after 2 hrs at Mercy trying to get him admitted.

[Pete]

6,257 new cases reported but that is for both Friday and Saturday. 7-day rolling average now 3,271; all-time high is 3,274.

13 additional reported deaths. 7-day rolling average 13.3; all-time high is 17.1.


Now, we hold our breaths and wait for the post-Thanksgiving surge.

[Libbymin]

Yeah I think our numbers will start looking a whole lot worse by the time Christmas rolls around.

[jedicurt]

Take this with a grain of salt because there are still Covid beds available.

physical beds yes... but personal and equipment to use them no.... you do know you need more than just the bed for it to actually be useable, right?

[Pete]

And 'beds available' is BS anyway when you consider that lots of hospitals and areas don't have any at all.

You aren't going to feel good being shipped to a rural hospital if you get sick.

[d-usa]

And the issue now is that there isn’t really an easy way to switch COVID beds and regular beds. Hospitals aren’t really having random types of beds mixed together, they have entire units. So if you make a COVID unit, you don’t have all these beds available for non-COVID patients. So having 10 empty COVID beds isn’t going to help the person with a heart attack who has to be shipped to a different hospital because there are no beds on non-COVID patients.

[soonerguru]

I can't help but wonder if the state level response from OSDH is jumbled because of all the leadership changes. If you want to roll out something like contact tracer apps or Covid testing alerts in a pandemic, it helps if you have had consistency in leadership. We've changed commissioners, epidemiologists, as well as some cabinet level health posts. I really wonder how many people died in the state because of bureaucracy. Clear consistent messaging saves lives.

The fish rots from the head. It starts with Stitt and the guy he put in charge of the agency who is not qualified for the role. Frye is just a yes-man anyway, which is the kind of "leadership" Stitt prefers.

[mugofbeer]

I’m not so sure. I took a family member to Mercy emergency a few days ago. There were no beds and a 5 hour wait... 1 1/2 hr just to get to triage nurse. My patient was sent by ambulance to another hospital after 2 hrs at Mercy trying to get him admitted.

Maybe it's beds of a certain level of illness - some available and some not. I talked to a relative who works there Thursday and she said they are very busy but not maxxed out.

I know the hospitals with more than 1 location are trying to isolate covid in just 1 location.

[Rover]

Maybe it's beds of a certain level of illness - some available and some not. I talked to a relative who works there Thursday and she said they are very busy but not maxxed out.

I know the hospitals with more than 1 location are trying to isolate covid in just 1 location.

May be the other way around. Was sent to the new south location because they weren’t treating covid there. Mercy north was maxed out.

[Bunty]

Well, my friend in Manchester said that according to the statistics from their tract and trace, grocery stores where the leading place of transmission of the virus in England. So yes this makes sense.

So maybe people going to crowded stores this weekend will be an even bigger source of virus infection than Thanksgiving gatherings.

[Bunty]

And the issue now is that there isn’t really an easy way to switch COVID beds and regular beds. Hospitals aren’t really having random types of beds mixed together, they have entire units. So if you make a COVID unit, you don’t have all these beds available for non-COVID patients. So having 10 empty COVID beds isn’t going to help the person with a heart attack who has to be shipped to a different hospital because there are no beds on non-COVID patients.

I'm afraid as many as 10 empty COVID beds is going to be, unfortunately, a rare situation for a long time.

[Canoe]

Basic science video explaining some terms that people are using incorrectly in this thread.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7OLpKqTriio