Covid-19 in OKC (coronavirus)

[FighttheGoodFight]

I read it wrong, the press conference is tomorrow at 1pm.

[soonerguru]

Had to take my wife to Mercy tonight with severe stomach pains and they are pretty over run. We finally left after about an hour as she's in extreme pain and couldn't wait any longer to get somewhere so we went to a rapid care ER at 150th and Penn. I can't wait inside so ran home nearby real quick. It is really infuriating to see someone be in excruciating pain to the point of nearly passing out and Mercy couldn't or wouldn't do anything at all. She seemed to be in by far the most distress compared to the other people in there. If you've got an emergency over the next couple months may prayers be with you because the doctors won't be for awhile.

This is terrifying. My wife had acute appendicitis in June. We were fortunate she got in to St. Anthony and had her surgery. Situations like you describe are the nightmare scenario. As someone who suffers from kidney stones, I will be keeping my fingers crossed through February.

Okies need to not be so dumb and selfish, including some people on this forum who are not dumb but should know better.

[soonerguru]

Stitt isn't against vaccines.

Quoting Stitt, "Personal choice." Sounds a lot like "personal responsibility," which, to his legions of followers means, "no responsibility whatsoever."

[Pete]

3,017 (!!) new cases today; 7-day rolling average a new record at 2,727.

26 more reported deaths, a single-day record.

Hospitalizations are 1,435 (+53) a new record.

ICU is 447 (+57!) a new record. Only 6% of ICU beds in the entire state are available.

[oklip955]

I don't know how much our health care system can take. I did a wow when I heard that OU Children's Hospital will be taking patients to age 30. What will it be like in a week or two weeks? We keep asking how bad does it have to get for people to take this seriously. Seems like even with these numbers and with hospitals at the breaking point, it still is not registering with a lot of people. I'm just staying home.

[BDP]

I don't know how much our health care system can take.

It seems like it's already breaking. It has already begun to negatively impact the care of all patients, not just COVID patients. When Italy and New York got to this point, they had people dying at home and in tents because there wasn't room for all the patients.

The difference is that that was early on and they didn't have a good idea of what was coming or how to take precautions before it happened to mitigate and prevent the overload.

But we're 7-8 months removed from that and we have known for most of that time how to control the spread and reduce transmission.

So, basically, if we do get to that point, it will not be because we didn't know it could happen or that no one alive could remember it happening in America before. It will be because we, as a community, chose it.

[soonerguru]

I read an interview with an ICU nurse in North Dakota. She has to watch dozens of people in her care die weekly. Some of them, she stated, say the virus is "nothing to worry about" and a "hoax" literally right before she sticks a ventilator tube down their throats. Their leader and chief misinformer told them that, and they are sticking to it. Many of them die in her care after claiming the virus is "nothing to worry about."

We are experiencing unprecedented misinformation and alternative reality delusion in the US on an epic scale. I think we all know why.

[sooner88]

I read an interview with an ICU nurse in North Dakota. She has to watch dozens of people in her care die weekly. Some of them, she stated, say the virus is "nothing to worry about" and a "hoax" literally right before she sticks a ventilator tube down their throats. Their leader and chief misinformer told them that, and they are sticking to it. Many of them die in her care after claiming the virus is "nothing to worry about."

We are experiencing unprecedented misinformation and alternative reality delusion in the US on an epic scale. I think we all know why.

My sister is a PA at the Cleveland Clinic, and her frustration echoes that of the ICU nurse. The combination of frustration and nervousness of being exposed has increased on a daily basis, and they're now running out of ICU beds and have moved into surge staffing once again. I don't know what the answer is, but for everyone's sake, especially the medical staff, I hope these vaccines work as advertised.

[TheTravellers]

... I don't know what the answer is, ...

Wear a ***ing mask!

[sooner88]

Wear a ***ing mask!

Wearing a mask is a small part of a bigger issue, but if you want to solve the worlds problem with a short answer be my guest.

[PoliSciGuy]

Wearing a mask is a small part of a bigger issue, but if you want to solve the worlds problem with a short answer be my guest.

Wearing a mask gets us to a lower infection rate and spares our healthcare system from being swamped. It doesn't stop COVID, but it does stop it from shutting everything down. It really is that simple.

[TheTravellers]

Wearing a mask is a small part of a bigger issue, but if you want to solve the worlds problem with a short answer be my guest.

If people had worn masks from the start (or at least when the science came out overwhelmingly for mask-wearing), we wouldn't be in this situation. If people would wear masks *NOW*, we wouldn't be in this situation. The root cause of the situation we're in can pretty much be traced back to the idiot free-dumb maskholes, so yeah, there is a short answer for this. Don't wear masks and spread the virus massively or do wear one and lessen the spread, that's all it really comes down to without a vaccine.

[Bill Robertson]

Wear a ***ing mask!

Where is that damn like button!

[OKCRealtor]

Yep we've been talking about how situations like these are the nightmare scenarios people are going to find themselves in and it happened to us. We finally got her transferred to Integris Yukon today though at least and admitted after a 5 hour EMSA wait to be transferred. It's crazy.

[soonerguru]

Rural maskholes are flooding our ICUs in OKC. This article makes it crystal clear.

https://oklahoman.com/article/567655...-filling-rooms

[C_M_25]

Rural maskholes are flooding our ICUs in OKC. This article makes it crystal clear.

https://oklahoman.com/article/567655...-filling-rooms

Wow, 1 in 9 in Texas county has it?? Unreal! Also, 68% of current icu patients are from areas with no mask mandate? Hmm...Stitt, the answer is staring at you in the face. How long can you continue to look away??

I’ve been trying to find some data on how many people are coming from rural areas. Thank you for sharing.

[BDP]

Also, 68% of current icu patients are from areas with no mask mandate? Hmm...Stitt, the answer is staring at you in the face. How long can you continue to look away??

I’ve been trying to find some data on how many people are coming from rural areas. Thank you for sharing.

This is from last week:

'We’re not in a good place': 22 Tulsa County ZIP codes in severe COVID-19 risk category

COVID-19 cases per capita in municipalities with mask orders grew 34% from Aug. 1 to Nov. 11, while cases in parts of Oklahoma without a mandate rose by 109%.

Stitt has declared impotency, So, we can't look there for relief, be it economic or for our health infrastructure. It's up to us.

[TheTravellers]

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Stitt has declared impotency, So, we can't look there for relief, be it economic or for our health infrastructure. It's up to us.

Sad, but true. Turned in a store for no employees wearing masks today.

[soonerguru]

Wow, 1 in 9 in Texas county has it?? Unreal! Also, 68% of current icu patients are from areas with no mask mandate? Hmm...Stitt, the answer is staring at you in the face. How long can you continue to look away??

I’ve been trying to find some data on how many people are coming from rural areas. Thank you for sharing.

You're welcome. I know we can be argumentative at times, but it gives me no pleasure to share this info. Yes, it's obviously predictable, but I really wish we weren't in this moment. Being right isn't that big of a deal to me. I would rather be wrong and see our numbers come down.

[oklip955]

I was looking at a few news sites last night that I don't frequent. On one I forgot, it showed Oklahoma County at 4% infection rate so one in twenty-five. Think about how many people you come in contact with in your day. Scary. Wear your mask and social distance.

[Ohwiseone]

Holt was on News9 this morning and they asked him about his press conference today. He basically said that it is too widespread at this point to close one particular thing. So he won't be closing anything, but he is basically going to ask people to stay at home as much as possible for the next two weeks. He is basically going to try to explain to people about just how bad it's gotten.

Which I appreciate, but I think it also kinda explains that he does not have a lot of power at the moment.

I could be wrong and he could announce something way different, just posting what I heard.

[Pete]

2,915 new cases today. 7-day rolling average 2,807, a new record.

18 reported deaths. 7-day rolling average 15.3, a new record.

Hospitalizations are 1,381 (-53) down from yesterday's all-time high.

ICU is 389 (-58) down from yesterday's all-time high.

[Libbymin]

Well that's a frustrating response. Yes people are still going to get sick if we close certain things but our main goal is to at least give our hospitals and health care workers some breathing room over the next couple of months. But choosing to do nothing is just assuring that those workers are going to get burnt out and overrun.

[jn1780]

If people had worn masks from the start (or at least when the science came out overwhelmingly for mask-wearing), we wouldn't be in this situation. If people would wear masks *NOW*, we wouldn't be in this situation. The root cause of the situation we're in can pretty much be traced back to the idiot free-dumb maskholes, so yeah, there is a short answer for this. Don't wear masks and spread the virus massively or do wear one and lessen the spread, that's all it really comes down to without a vaccine.

Oh yeah, it work well for them in Europe. They are enjoying their no lockdown right now.................
Italy was the second country hit hard initially, locked down hard and long, wore masks all summer, now approaching where they were previously.

I am not arguing against the effectiveness of masks, but lets stop with the simplistic logic and realize there are a lot of variables at play. On the data science side of things, it seems pretty clear the declines in the south this summer was due to it being the summer lull. They were able to get just enough herd immunity to stop the exponentially growth. Masks may have helped, but certainly not enough to stop the resumption of exponentially growth when the temperatures went down again.

I haven't seen any real world 'ah ha' example where masks have prevented at least one exponentially explosion. The best we can say is that they slow growth. Even that is hard to quantify, because a lot of places that saw declines had a huge spike beforehand. So which was it: the masks or a temporary lull due to a combination of herd immunity/summer temps? We probably won't have a good mask effectiveness number until comparing everyone after the pandemic is over.

We do have low death rates in Japan, but their cleaner in everything they do life not just masks.

Also, we are simplistic in our thinking over here in the western world, we are lazy in all our other mitigation efforts and take more risks just because we wear masks thus cancelling out the benefits. If one motor cycle rider wears a helmet everyday of the week, but another doesn't but only rides one day of the month who has the greater risk of dying?

[TheTravellers]

Oh yeah, it work well for them in Europe. They are enjoying their no lockdown right now.................
Italy was the second country hit hard initially, locked down hard and long, wore masks all summer, now approaching where they were previously.

I am not arguing against the effectiveness of masks, but lets stop with the simplistic logic and realize there are a lot of variables at play. On the data science side of things, it seems pretty clear the declines in the south this summer was due to it being the summer lull. They were able to get just enough herd immunity to stop the exponentially growth. Masks may have helped, but certainly not enough to stop the resumption of exponentially growth when the temperatures went down again.

I haven't seen any real world 'ah ha' example where masks have prevented at least one exponentially explosion. The best we can say is that they slow growth. Even that is hard to quantify, because a lot of places that saw declines had a huge spike beforehand. So which was it: the masks or a temporary lull due to a combination of herd immunity/summer temps? We probably won't have a good mask effectiveness number until comparing everyone after the pandemic is over.

We do have low death rates in Japan, but their cleaner in everything they do life not just masks.

Also, we are simplistic in our thinking over here in the western world, we are lazy in all our other mitigation efforts and take more risks just because we wear masks thus cancelling out the benefits. If one motor cycle rider wears a helmet everyday of the week, but another doesn't but only rides one day of the month who has the greater risk of dying?

"herd immunity" - lol, you lost credibility right there.