Covid-19 in OKC (coronavirus)

[jerrywall]

you should take the risk you are comfortable with ... ruining businesses and the economy should be a non starter ..

the CDC says 480,000 deaths are caused by smoking a year in the USA ... ....

And how many laws are in place that restrict the freedom to smoke, and where you can smoke, and such?

The smoking deaths argument is just a terrible one, and I've seen it floated on facebook over the past couple of days (again). It's a shame.

[Ohwiseone]

Making bars close at 11pm is pretty easy to enforce. They do it already with Last Call. Making sure they keep people 6 feet apart at a bar is a different story.

Oh, I do not really go out to bars anymore, and I don't think I have ever reached last call when I did, so I really didn't know.

[BoulderSooner]

I dunno about you, but I am going to be fascinated on how bars are going to make all their customers leave the bar at 11, if these regulations aren't going to have any sort of fine behind them.

It is amazing how little he did.

i know of at least 1 bar that has no plans to follow these guidelines ..

[soonerguru]

I’m sure schools are contributing some to the spread, but I seriously doubt they are the primary reason. Do you have an evidence to support your claim? Instead of blaming kids for this spread, let’s just step back and look at what’s really happening.

Currently, the fastest rate of spread in Oklahoma is in the rule counties. These locations do not, or rarely, have mask mandates. Life in these parts of the state has been normal for the most part. Like most things in life, it just took a little while for covid to take a foothold. We’re finally seeing uncontrolled community spread taking a toll in these areas.

Masks and responsible social distancing, or lack thereof, is the culprit here. Not the schools. Bars, restaurants, churches, colleges, and other large indoor gatherings (of irresponsible adults) is the culprit for this now rapid uncontrollable community spread.

What evidence do you have to make your claim? Two can play this clever game of sophistry. The major variable that changed was in-person classes at K-12 and universities. The lack of distancing you describe had been going on much longer.

[soonerguru]

i know of at least 1 bar that has no plans to follow these guidelines ..

Would that be Kong’s Tavern by any chance?

[C_M_25]

What evidence do you have to make your claim? Two can play this clever game of sophistry. The major variable that changed was in-person classes at K-12 and universities. The lack of distancing you describe had been going on much longer.

Simply look at the timing. Schools started back at the start of the september. That's the faint gray line that has the label. The purple line is about mid-september. The red line is the start of october, and the black line is the end of october. You can see that the increase in cases was generally up but no exponential. The cases we're seeing now are definitely exponential and occurs about 2 weeks after halloween...which is kinda interesting. If this was strictly schools, as you proclaim (btw, nice job on differentiating between k-12 and universities; you didn't do that originally), then I would have expected this exponential increase to have occurred much earlier this fall.

What we're seeing now is very different growth than anything before. I suspect that it's occurring for many different reasons. It didn't really register with me till writing this that we are really about 2 weeks post-halloween. This growth could be related to halloween parties, it could be related to covid taking hold in rural counties (remember, it takes time for this thing to move rural given the sparse population densities), it could be related to the ice storm, it could be related to increase pandemic-fatigue and premature return-to-normal by many people, it could....etc etc. You assume this is strictly school-related, but the reality is that it is far more complex of an issue than what you assume.

[C_M_25]

Sorry about the attachment ^

This website could use an upgrade for file uploads.

[d-usa]

I think ice storm and Halloween ended up being a potent combo.

This also tracks with the “upgrade” in the reporting system, so is any of this just more people reporting?

[jedicurt]

i saw the CDC now has excess death numbers up through October 3rd. and it's just over 299,000.

[Bunty]

Stillwater Medical Center is now full again of covid patients as of Monday morning, 11/16/20. This graph now includes Emergency Room Hold beds. These numbers represent patients requiring COVID19 inpatient care; however, no inpatient beds are available in house and other hospitals are not accepting transfers at this time. This should serve as a reminder to continue to take precautions against covid, in case your local hospital is under similar pressing conditions.

Fortunately, Stillwater City Council passes first reading of ordinance to extend mask mandate to Feb. 28. Stillwater Medical Center President and CEO were among those speaking in support of it:
https://www.stwnewspress.com/news/co...9449389ee.html

[PoliSciGuy]

It's insane that we know how to lower numbers, have the resources at the federal level to help people who have to stay home for a few weeks, yet our overall plan is to just trust individuals to "do the right thing." I really hope this peaks within the next week or so, but I'm doubtful.

[PhiAlpha]

Why risk getting covid-19 at any age?

Because something with a less than a .1% risk of death or serious illness isn’t worth significantly altering your life over? Wear a mask and move on.

[soonerguru]

Simply look at the timing. Schools started back at the start of the september. That's the faint gray line that has the label. The purple line is about mid-september. The red line is the start of october, and the black line is the end of october. You can see that the increase in cases was generally up but no exponential. The cases we're seeing now are definitely exponential and occurs about 2 weeks after halloween...which is kinda interesting. If this was strictly schools, as you proclaim (btw, nice job on differentiating between k-12 and universities; you didn't do that originally), then I would have expected this exponential increase to have occurred much earlier this fall.

What we're seeing now is very different growth than anything before. I suspect that it's occurring for many different reasons. It didn't really register with me till writing this that we are really about 2 weeks post-halloween. This growth could be related to halloween parties, it could be related to covid taking hold in rural counties (remember, it takes time for this thing to move rural given the sparse population densities), it could be related to the ice storm, it could be related to increase pandemic-fatigue and premature return-to-normal by many people, it could....etc etc. You assume this is strictly school-related, but the reality is that it is far more complex of an issue than what you assume.

No. Schools started the third or fourth week of August.

[PhiAlpha]

i know of at least 1 bar that has no plans to follow these guidelines ..

DM me which one lol. Asking for a friend...

[Jersey Boss]

The herd immunity crowd lost the Sweedish cite.

Sweden U-turns on herd immunity with tighter lockdown restrictions – CityAM

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cit...trictions/amp/

[Pete]

1,551 new cases today. 7-day rolling average is now 2,607, down slightly from yesterday's record.

6 additional deaths.

Hospitalizations are 1,381 (+134), an all-time high by a big margin.

ICU is 390 (+28) another all-time high.

[MadMonk]

Good to see the recoveries outstrip the new cases for once. Net drop of 350 in active cases.

[catcherinthewry]

Damn. One out of every 1,000 North Dakotans has died of Covid.That's a jaw dropping statistic.

[FighttheGoodFight]

So as I am understanding this now these numbers are from Monday technically? They changed the way they report numbers so our low count days might be Monday and Tuesdays instead of Sunday and Mondays

[Libbymin]

Damn. One out of every 1,000 North Dakotans has died of Covid.That's a jaw dropping statistic.

It probably doesn't help that their governor is now saying that nurses who've tested positive but are asymptomatic can keep working.

[Roger S]

Well i just had an interesting experience...

Have worked downtown the majority of my adult life and have been asked for just about everything imaginable by the transients.... Today I had one ask me if I had a spare mask.... Guess I'll start carrying an extra with me until things settle down.

[BoulderSooner]

Damn. One out of every 1,000 North Dakotans has died of Covid.That's a jaw dropping statistic.

north dakota is well blow their "expected deaths" in 2020

[Mott]

It probably doesn't help that their governor is now saying that nurses who've tested positive but are asymptomatic can keep working.

That’s what the North Dakota Governor said, but finally did a state wide mask mandate.

[BoulderSooner]

It probably doesn't help that their governor is now saying that nurses who've tested positive but are asymptomatic can keep working.

very very few states have tested medical workers during this pandemic ....

[BDP]

north dakota is well blow their "expected deaths" in 2020

Not since September. Way over that since then.