Covid-19 in OKC (coronavirus)

[Pete]

HIV doesn't have a vaccine but a good therapeutic. Some would say a Therapeutic is more important than a vaccine

The therapeutics came only after the disease was substantially slowed down through tons of common-sense measures, like testing, education, preventative measures and most importantly, listening to what scientists told us to do.

[Edmond Hausfrau]

And when we do get a vaccine, it would still need to be part of a larger, comprehensive plan.

We don't even have a plan at this point, with or without innoculation....

Unless 'let people die while we wait it out' is considered a plan.

That does seem to be the plan, followed by irate calls from the Governor to the WH task force when their report labels our deaths "preventable".

[Edmond Hausfrau]

The therapeutics came only after the disease was substantially slowed down through tons of common-sense measures, like testing, education, preventative measures and most importantly, listening to what scientists told us to do.

Last year Oklahoma was at the forefront of an HIV epidemic. We currently have a syphilis outbreak in southern Oklahoma. We have a public health problem in the state that needs to be taken seriously at every level of government.https://www.news9.com/story/5e345d79...tor-visits-okc

[jerrywall]

There are people who are very open and honest about that being their plan. I see it quite a bit. It's a shrug, and a 'Yes, a bunch of old and sick people who were already going to die are gonna die anyways. We can't do anything about it so might as well just keep going on like normal.'

I saw someone post today on FB about how "only" 1100 Oklahomans had died.

There are just too many people who have had no personal consequences from this crisis beyond those inflicted (in their mind) by an "over-reaction".

[Pete]

^

The truth is that many have bought into the complete lies and misinformation being peddled by some our most prominent leaders.

Which provides plenty of cover for their "Screw everyone else, I want to go drink my face off at Kong's" attitude.


The whole point of leadership is to make the tough decisions, and explain to the kids why they can't play in the busy street no matter how much they might want to.

[d-usa]

There are people who are very open and honest about that being their plan. I see it quite a bit. It's a shrug, and a 'Yes, a bunch of old and sick people who were already going to die are gonna die anyways. We can't do anything about it so might as well just keep going on like normal.'

I saw someone post today on FB about how "only" 1100 Oklahomans had died.

There are just too many people who have had no personal consequences from this crisis beyond those inflicted (in their mind) by an "over-reaction".

I can’t believe we are still making a big deal about less than 200 people getting killed on 1995. /s

[d-usa]

Truth is, the country as a whole doesn’t care about people dying. The death numbers have long lost any meaning and people don’t care about those dead. People care more about deaths caused by something they disagree with ideologically. Benghazi is still a bigger deal to them that all these deaths.

[Bill Robertson]

I'm active on a handful of forums for hobbies of mine. I've read a number of posts the past few days on a couple of them talking about the number of people that seem to be doing things lately that indicate a "I'm done, I'm going back to normal and I don't care what happens " attitude by people that were taking the virus seriously. I'm afraid more people getting sick of taking precautions and deciding to just move on is going to be a growing problem.

[OKCRT]

I'm active on a handful of forums for hobbies of mine. I've read a number of posts the past few days on a couple of them talking about the number of people that seem to be doing things lately that indicate a "I'm done, I'm going back to normal and I don't care what happens " attitude by people that were taking the virus seriously. I'm afraid more people getting sick of taking precautions and deciding to just move on is going to be a growing problem.

I am seeing that also. Lots more maskless folks out recently. Plus I know several people that have had it that are telling anyone within shouting distance that this virus is not nearly as bad as what it's made out to be.

[Pete]

I am seeing that also. Lots more maskless folks out recently. Plus I know several people that have had it that are telling anyone within shouting distance that this virus is not nearly as bad as what it's made out to be.

That's because dead people can't talk.

[TheTravellers]

As far as schooling goes, how did Europe handle schooling during WWI and WWII? Did they just keep going to school? Were there years or months where the kids just didn't go to school? What kind of consequences were there if the school years weren't fully attended/used - kids kept back a grade, serious learning gaps/holes, ...? Serious questions because I really don't know. Seems like if there were massive disruptions to education in Europe during two wars and the kids didn't show massive adverse effects, we should be able to handle one school year being disrupted by distance learning. And yes, I do realize that not everybody can do remote learning and that it's not ideal, but seems like we should not hold in-person classes until we have this more under control (if that's even possible with the absolute stupidity and willful ignorance of such a huge chunk of the population).

[Bill Robertson]

I am seeing that also. Lots more maskless folks out recently. Plus I know several people that have had it that are telling anyone within shouting distance that this virus is not nearly as bad as what it's made out to be.

Hadn't thought about that but there have been three people at work that have had it. All three of us were completely asymptomatic or had very minor symptoms. The other two joke about it. I'm the only one that's still anal about distancing and wipes everything around me down at least daily. And I go through hand sanitizer last crazy.

[Bill Robertson]

Generally, yes. However, 1 year does really matter for kindergartners in particular. The jump from pre-school to kindergarten is huge. They also go through significant brain development; therefore, it is critical for them to not fall behind academically or socially as it's very difficult for them to catch up. The jump from kindergarten and 1st grade is also pretty big.

Don't forget too, that kids start taking standardized tests in 3rd grade. These kids are still really little, and 1 year can have a detrimental affect in preparing for the testing.

One thing that we forget is that we look at these circumstances with very adult (typically) thought processes. We forget what it's like to be a kid. I don't remember much from kindergarten, so I can't put myself in these kid's shoes, and I know we are all guilty of that.

As you said, 3-4 years will be a disaster, but I would argue, for a subset of these kids, that 1 year could have a long-lasting detrimental effect on their development.

NM. I shouldn't have said what I typed. Not really relevant.

[Bunty]

All ICU beds in Stillwater Regional Hospital are in use as of Monday. In the COVID unit, 9 out of 18 non-icu beds are available. 21 out of 47 medical beds are available, so things aren't all bad.

Fortunately, new Stillwater covid cases have been trending down. There were only 9 cases on Monday. There were 21 cases on the statewide record setting day of Saturday, Oct. 10 when there were 1533. Recent peak day for Stillwater was 42 on Sept. 24. 2138 all time cases as of Monday places Stillwater at no. 6 in the state with Enid not very far behind.

Meanwhile, the first round petition to vote to recall mayor & Stillwater city council members got enough signatures. The second required petition with more signatures needed for it to go on ballot is now out. Some people are unhappy over required store closures ordered last spring and later on the city ordinance requiring masks. But the city council had no other choice, since the Oklahoma governor last spring ordered a shutdown of "non-essential businesses" in 19 of 77 Oklahoma counties, which included the county Stillwater is in.

[RustytheBailiff]

That's because dead people can't talk.

You point out the obvious to the blind.

[jccouger]

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jam...rticle/2771761

OK currently about 10% higher rate of death than expected. I believe it was bouldersooner who claimed we’ve had fewer deaths this year.

[FighttheGoodFight]

All ICU beds in Stillwater Regional Hospital are in use as of Monday. In the COVID unit, 9 out of 18 non-icu beds are available. 21 out of 47 medical beds are available, so things aren't all bad.

Fortunately, new Stillwater covid cases have been trending down. There were only 9 cases on Monday. There were 21 cases on the statewide record setting day of Saturday, Oct. 10 when there were 1533. Recent peak day for Stillwater was 42 on Sept. 24. 2138 all time cases as of Monday places Stillwater at no. 6 in the state with Enid not very far behind.

Meanwhile, the first round petition to vote to recall mayor & Stillwater city council members got enough signatures. The second required petition with more signatures needed for it to go on ballot is now out. Some people are unhappy over required store closures ordered last spring and later on the city ordinance requiring masks. But the city council had no other choice, since the Oklahoma governor last spring ordered a shutdown of "non-essential businesses" in 19 of 77 Oklahoma counties, which included the county Stillwater is in.

OKC is out of ICU bed this morning as well. This was a metric that Stitt said he would mandate new restrictions. Let's see if that happens.

https://twitter.com/WILLIAMCRUM/stat...749371394?s=20

[Pete]

OKC is out of ICU bed this morning as well. This was a metric that Stitt said he would mandate new restrictions. Let's see if that happens.

https://twitter.com/WILLIAMCRUM/stat...749371394?s=20

He'll issue a statement disputing the numbers then do zero.

[Pete]

Press release:

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Oklahoma City’s mask ordinance extended until Dec. 7
10/13/2020

Oklahoma City’s mask ordinance is in place until at least Dec. 7 after the City Council voted Tuesday to extend the requirement to wear face coverings in indoor public places.

The emergency public safety ordinance was set to expire Oct. 20, but Tuesday’s action moved the expiration date to Dec. 7. The Council has discretion to revisit the expiration date at future meetings.

Public health officials say face coverings are key to slowing the spread of COVID-19. Cases have declined in the metro since Oklahoma City’s emergency mask order was first put in place July 17. There have been no other changes to local or statewide coronavirus response efforts since then that can be linked to the decline of cases in the metro.

Evidence shows there’s a high risk of infected people spreading the virus with their breath if they don’t use a face covering. Evidence also shows infected people can spread the virus even if they don’t have symptoms, underscoring the importance of mask-wearing even for people who feel healthy.

Free signs about the mask requirement to print for display at local businesses and other public spaces, along with social media graphics and animations, are available on a public shared drive at covid19.okc.gov. The free signs are available in English, Spanish (español), Vietnamese (Tiếng Việt), Arabic (عربى) and Korean (한국어).

Visit covid19.okc.gov for the latest on the coronavirus in Oklahoma City.

Face covering requirements

• Everyone in Oklahoma City age 11 and up is required to wear a face covering, like a mask or face shield, in indoor public spaces. There are some exceptions.
• Public health officials also recommend face coverings for children age 3 and up, although it’s not a requirement in the emergency ordinance.
• Face coverings are required only in indoor spaces open to the public, including private property.
• The face covering must cover both the nose and mouth. A face shield is an alternative to a cloth face covering or mask. Here are general CDC recommendations about cloth face coverings and masks.

Exceptions to face covering requirements are:

• Children age 10 and under, unless required by a school or daycare.
• People working in an office who don’t have face-to-face interactions with the public.
• Patrons of restaurants, bars and similar establishments while eating or drinking.
• People in settings where it isn’t practical or feasible to wear a face covering, like receiving dental services, swimming or playing at a sprayground.
• People engaged in sports (including for recreation).
• People engaged in cardio exercises. But people should make reasonable efforts to observe social distancing between groups of people from different households.
• People inside any federal, state or county building or facility.
• People inside a public or private school building or facility, unless required by the school.
• People at a religious service or ceremony where social distancing is observed between groups of people from different households.
• People with a developmental disability.
• People who are deaf or hard-of-hearing, and people who are communicating with someone who is deaf or hard-of-hearing.

The requirements expire Dec. 7, unless the Council takes further action.

Enforcement

• People can report violations of the mask ordinance to the Action Center using one of four ways:
• Online at okc.gov/action
• By email to action.center@okc.gov
• By text message to (405) 252-1053
• Via the OKC Connect smartphone app for iOS and Android devices

Action Center staff will make a report that is routed to OCCHD, whose inspectors will respond to reports.

When responding, inspectors will first offer a mask or an opportunity for the person to leave the public, indoor space.

People who refuse to wear the mask or leave would be subject to a fine of $9 on a conviction for a first or second offense. The fine would rise to a maximum of $100 for third and subsequent offenses.

In situations where someone is refusing to leave or to wear a mask, call 911 for Police Department enforcement of trespassing ordinances.

People with a medical condition preventing them from safely wearing a mask can produce a document from their physician confirming that information, and will not be subject to a conviction and fine related to the mask ordinance.

[Jesseda]

Well Guys I just had to go pick up my daughter from Moore High. She is being quarantined for 14 days, a girl at her school that tested positive showed up to school yesterday and by midday was bragging about having covid which turned out to be true so multiple kids that sat close to her in the classrooms got sent home for 14 days which was a lot of them, there was a line of cars picking up other students when i showed up to pick my daughter up. My daughter is upset, mad and scared all at the same time that this has happened. She has multiple test coming up and she is scared with doing all online she might fail smh. I really wish the schools would just go back to online. I tried asking the school questions about the exposure and the questions about the kid who tested positive but the school wouldnt tell me any info ( not wanting to know the girls name or anything, I know the name due to my daughter telling me the whole story of the girl, just that if its true that the girl knew about it and brought it purposely to school ).

[Pete]

1,309 new cases today. 7-day rolling average is now 1,164.

Hospitalizations 760 (+2) for an all-time high.

ICU 277 (+1).

15 more reported deaths.

202 new cases in OK County.

[FighttheGoodFight]

I think we have really hit maximum "pandemic fatigue." A lot of people who I know were careful early just stopped caring. I get it, 7 months of this has been a long time.

[TheTravellers]

Saw that the mask ordinance extension passed with a 7-1 vote, wondering if anybody knew offhand who the dissenter was?

[TheTravellers]

I think we have really hit maximum "pandemic fatigue." A lot of people who I know were careful early just stopped caring. I get it, 7 months of this has been a long time.

What would all these people do if they had to face something like Europe did during WWI and WWII? 7 months of social distancing and mask-wearing, boo-hoo.......

[Pete]

Saw that the mask ordinance extension passed with a 7-1 vote, wondering if anybody knew offhand who the dissenter was?

McAtee.