Covid-19 in OKC (coronavirus)

[SEMIweather]

Anything that involves people being indoors and in close proximity to each other for 15+ minutes is just asking for a bad time. I would bet money that the majority of community transmission in Oklahoma is coming from private gatherings, as well as a few businesses that fit that criteria such as indoor dining and bars.

[C_M_25]

We're heading for another shutdown...

[Pete]

Anything that involves people being indoors and in close proximity to each other for 15+ minutes is just asking for a bad time. I would bet money that the majority of community transmission in Oklahoma is coming from private gatherings, as well as a few businesses that fit that criteria such as indoor dining and bars.

And churches, weddings and schools.

[Bill Robertson]

But they came to that decision based on months of this nonsense.

There have been plenty of examples in our past where people have rallied for a clear, common cause.

It's sad that the non rallying behind this is political and/or "it violates my rights". In that respect rallying behind 9-11 or the Murrah bombing didn't require wearing a mask which so many find so frigging intrusive. Rallying behind those events only took lip service, donating to some group or volunteering in some way.

Or it's simply a matter of something coming up now to show just how disconnected and apathetic our society has become since we all rallied after 9/11. If that's the case I'm actually kinda glad I'm on the downhill side of my time here on earth.

[Bill Robertson]

And churches, weddings and schools.

True.
Schools have proven distance learning can be done. Yeah, it's socially different for the kids and they need interaction. But this is a whole new situation.
I love our church but I get ticked every week seeing the lack of precautions when we watched online. And every week they add back some program that had been shut down.
We love in such an impatient world.

[oklip955]

It amazes me that parents in Edmond and Deer Creek are still pushing for 5 day a week in person classes with these numbers. Also lets look at the huge spikes in Europe and we can see where we are headed even before flu season. Its just not good. I'm going to cut way back on my trips to town. I try to only shop for needs not wants. Ie groceries and items at the hardware store. (instead of Walmart) I maybe be headed to every 2 or 3 week shopping trips.

[Pete]

Or it's simply a matter of something coming up now to show just how disconnected and apathetic our society has become since we all rallied after 9/11. If that's the case I'm actually kinda glad I'm on the downhill side of my time here on earth.

Our society hasn't just randomly 'become' disconnected and highly polarized.

We all know exactly what happened to cause this.


There was no political party lying about 9/11 or telling people it was no big deal or contradicting logical and expert-driven information.

[Bill Robertson]

Just saw this on a bass players forum. I like it!

[Edmond Hausfrau]

True.
Schools have proven distance learning can be done. Yeah, it's socially different for the kids and they need interaction. But this is a whole new situation.
I love our church but I get ticked every week seeing the lack of precautions when we watched online. And every week they add back some program that had been shut down.
We love in such an impatient world.

One small bright spot. Schools have shown that "snow days" no longer need to be built into schedule if they can flex to online in bad weather.
The days of listening to the KFOR team read the school closings are a bygone era.

[Bill Robertson]

One small bright spot. Schools have shown that "snow days" no longer need to be built into schedule if they can flex to online in bad weather.
The days of listening to the KFOR team read the school closings are a bygone era.

I didn't know that about snow days. Makes since though.
I've really wondered about the universities going to online after Thanksgiving. They've also done online so they have systems in place. Why not just transition now? I know it would be disruptive but 2020 has been nothing but disruptive.

[jedicurt]

One small bright spot. Schools have shown that "snow days" no longer need to be built into schedule if they can flex to online in bad weather.
The days of listening to the KFOR team read the school closings are a bygone era.

well in some cases. for OKC and populated area's maybe.... but online learning was not done well in rural oklahoma were they dont' have high speed internet.

[Bill Robertson]

well in some cases. for OKC and populated area's maybe.... but online learning was not done well in rural oklahoma were they dont' have high speed internet.

There are at least two satellite high speed internet services.

[jedicurt]

There are at least two satellite high speed internet services.

which works great if you are only downloading. but upload speeds for satellite are abysmal. and zoom calls, and other methods for two way video need good upload speeds as well as download.

[Bill Robertson]

which works great if you are only downloading. but upload speeds for satellite are abysmal. and zoom calls, and other methods for two way video need good upload speeds as well as download.

OK. I just knew it was available. Slow uploading would affect two way communication like ZOOM.

But if ALL the school systems of every level that could do remote classes would do remote classes it would help ar the situation.

[jerrywall]

One small bright spot. Schools have shown that "snow days" no longer need to be built into schedule if they can flex to online in bad weather.
The days of listening to the KFOR team read the school closings are a bygone era.

Maybe. I know Oklahoma law requires 1,080 of classroom instruction. I'm not sure how that works with with online learning, especially since they tend to do less hours than they would normally do in the classroom. I have a feeling that requirement is suspended for last year and this year, but for inclement weather there may need to be some changes to the state statutes.

[Bill Robertson]

Maybe. I know Oklahoma law requires 1,080 of classroom instruction. I'm not sure how that works with with online learning, especially since they tend to do less hours than they would normally do in the classroom. I have a feeling that requirement is suspended for last year and this year, but for inclement weather there may need to be some changes to the state statutes.

Just one of many rules that need to be flexible in these types of situations. And while students may have fewer hours in remote learning I have a niece that's a 4th grade teacher that has been assigned the task of remote learning for her school and she's putting in way more hours than if she had kids in school.

[BDP]

It's sad that the non rallying behind this is political and/or "it violates my rights". In that respect rallying behind 9-11 or the Murrah bombing didn't require wearing a mask which so many find so frigging intrusive. Rallying behind those events only took lip service, donating to some group or volunteering in some way.

Maybe we're missing an opportunity here.

Since we have a significant amount of people who do not care if they get the virus, or maybe even think getting it is a "blessing", we should allow the pharmaceutical companies that are working on a vaccine to conduct human challenge trials. They could recruit from this pool of people that don't think it's a big deal or think it won't harm them. Give the vaccine to half of them, line them all up, expose them to the virus, and see who gets it. Pay them some money for their efforts and maybe even give out medals if it works.

We wouldn't need millions of dollars, months of observation, or even the 30-45k people the current phase III trials require to determine efficacy. A couple thousand people, maybe half a million for administrative costs and compensation, and they'd know in about 10 days if the vaccine works.

Warp speed.

[jerrywall]

Just one of many rules that need to be flexible in these types of situations. And while students may have fewer hours in remote learning I have a niece that's a 4th grade teacher that has been assigned the task of remote learning for her school and she's putting in way more hours than if she had kids in school.

Oh, I'm sure. My mother teaches 5th grade and while she's unfortunately back in the classroom right now, the amount of work she had to put in during while remote was ridiculous. Unfortunately, the statutory hours requirements has little to do with teacher time.

[soonerguru]

Trump is planning another superspreader event at the White House tomorrow.

[SEMIweather]

Maybe we're missing an opportunity here.

Since we have a significant amount of people who do not care if they get the virus, or maybe even think getting it is a "blessing", we should allow the pharmaceutical companies that are working on a vaccine to conduct human challenge trials. They could recruit from this pool of people that don't think it's a big deal or think it won't harm them. Give the vaccine to half of them, line them all up, expose them to the virus, and see who gets it. Pay them some money for their efforts and maybe even give out medals if it works.

We wouldn't need millions of dollars, months of observation, or even the 30-45k people the current phase III trials require to determine efficacy. A couple thousand people, maybe half a million for administrative costs and compensation, and they'd know in about 10 days if the vaccine works.

Warp speed.

Perfect idea, except dollars-to-doughnuts this is the same group of people that is least likely to want to get vaccinated once one is available lmao.

[Bill Robertson]

Trump is planning another superspreader event at the White House tomorrow.

Sad. And again at the risk of going too policy. We really need a "None of the above" box on the ballot.

[Bill Robertson]

Oh, I'm sure. My mother teaches 5th grade and while she's unfortunately back in the classroom right now, the amount of work she had to put in during while remote was ridiculous. Unfortunately, the statutory hours requirements has little to do with teacher time.

I understand. But this is a good time to change statutes.

[TheTravellers]

Sad. And again at the risk of going too policy. We really need a "None of the above" box on the ballot.

Saw this sign in a yard on the way to the Plaza District a week or so ago.

[dankrutka]

OKC teacher dies after contracting COVID-19

[Scott5114]

Sad. And again at the risk of going too policy. We really need a "None of the above" box on the ballot.

Nevada actually has that. But if it wins, it's disregarded and the actual candidate with the most votes still wins.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/None_of_These_Candidates