Covid-19 in OKC (coronavirus)

[Bill Robertson]

in all due respect, that's not obvious at all. It would only be obvious if we were all doing that and it wasn't working. But, we're not, so you can't draw that conclusion.

Mandates or guidelines do not equal compliance. What is obvious is that not everyone is simply wearing masks in public or avoiding large indoor gatherings.

The reality is that any future lockdowns would not be because masks and distancing are "not nearly enough to stop the spread". It would be because many people refused to do those things.

We don't have to have lockdowns to contain the virus. We just have to give a ****. And, unfortunately, that can't be mandated.

amen!!!

[kukblue1]

Oh god I'm going to get attacked but I'm used to it by now so here it goes. WE are not shutting down the country for something for people under the age of 50 that has a Currently in Oklahoma .07% chance of killing you. Being older over 50 like I am does sucks but i'm the one that has changed my lifestyle. Last week was the first time I went to the casino in 6 months. I still haven't been in a supermarket in 6 months. I still haven't been to a sit down restaurants in 6 months . I know not everyone can do that is older and it sucks but shutting down everything will cause so much more harm than good. Hell there still a lot of things that will never recover of all this.

[C_M_25]

Guys, we are not shutting down this economy. You guys are only looking at this from one perspective: stopping covid at all costs. Life isn’t that black and white though. Our economy is on very shaky ground at best. Things have recovered to some degree, but there are signals all over the place that things aren’t as strong as the Dow currently indicates. This disease is scary. It’s super contagious and it kills at a much higher rate than the flu. There’s a lot we don’t know about the long term. However, shutting everything down will crush this economy. It would be absolutely devastating. .

[Bunty]

I am starting to believe that the only way to stop this is to just shut everything down for however long it takes. Could the state survive a 3-6 month total lockdown? It's obvious that masks and 6 ft. distance is not nearly enough to stop the spread. So what's left? Lockdown? If Biden gets elected he might have to force a lockdown in certain areas if the numbers keep rising. Trump will not do this

The state had a plenty rough enough time surviving the partial shutdown and best that much not be repeated. One still can't see a Thunder game. I don't see the need for any lockdowns or partial shutdowns as long as local hospitals don't become overwhelmed by COVID-19 patients. If that was going to happen, it should have by now. As we get closer to winter, I don't think many more older people past age 65 want to risk coming down with COVID-19.

[kukblue1]

Great just great. https://www.foxnews.com/us/coronavir...ng-protections

[C_M_25]

Great just great. https://www.foxnews.com/us/coronavir...ng-protections

This mutation has been around since May at least. This is just an attention grabbing article.

[C_M_25]

Here’s a question for you all. There has been some good news out of China in regards to their vaccine. It’s currently on ph 3 trials in Brazil, but apparently, it is leaps and bounds ahead of our vaccines as far as development is concerned. Take the good news part with a grain of salt as we know how China can be.

Would you take a Chinese vaccine for covid??

Also, results from their trials will be published in the coming weeks/month.

[C_M_25]

I have been pontificating a lot lately in how we live with this virus assuming it never goes away. If anything, it really highlights how poorly we’re set up for disease in our lifestyles. I’m going to focus on air ventilation in buildings (movie theaters, restaurants, churches, etc). It’s interesting that we just typically recycle our air. Is that the right way to go about it?

I think back to my grandparents home. It’s older. They have an attic fan. You could tell when this thing came on as it had a vent to the house, so it would pull air out. It was obvious when it was working. Maybe we need to be installing similar systems in our modern buildings. Why recirculate the air? If you could pull the air out from above and bring in fresh air from the outside, you could effectively pump out covid or other viral particles. Given the size of these particles, you wouldn’t need much air flow. You just need some...

[Bill Robertson]

This mutation has been around since May at least. This is just an attention grabbing article.

Yep. This comes up every month or so. Not news.

[Pete]

1,276 new cases today, 2nd most ever. Now 9 straight days over 1,000.

7-day rolling average 1,136, yet another all-time high.

237 new cases in OK County.

590 total hospitalizations.

12 additional deaths.

[OKCRT]

Here’s a question for you all. There has been some good news out of China in regards to their vaccine. It’s currently on ph 3 trials in Brazil, but apparently, it is leaps and bounds ahead of our vaccines as far as development is concerned. Take the good news part with a grain of salt as we know how China can be.

Would you take a Chinese vaccine for covid??

Also, results from their trials will be published in the coming weeks/month.

Chinese Communist Party Vaccine? Nah don't think I would take it. They would prob. put a tracking device in there so they can monitor your every move.

[BDP]

They would prob. put a tracking device in there so they can monitor your every move.

You probably already carry one around with you every day.

[Edmond Hausfrau]

1,276 new cases today, 2nd most ever. Now 9 straight days over 1,000.

7-day rolling average 1,136, yet another all-time high.

237 new cases in OK County.

590 total hospitalizations.

12 additional deaths.

Semi-hot take: No one cares about Covid anymore for the same reason no one cares about our ongoing wars. Until a bunch of rich famous white guys, or their children, start dying, nobody cares. Wars and viruses will be fought on the backs of the poor, the undereducated, the infirmed, the incarcerated, and POC.
Probably should be on the political thread but I've seen too many people in OKC not take this seriously because they are not directly touched.

[TheTravellers]

Semi-hot take: No one cares about Covid anymore for the same reason no one cares about our ongoing wars. Until a bunch of rich famous white guys, or their children, start dying, nobody cares. Wars and viruses will be fought on the backs of the poor, the undereducated, the infirmed, the incarcerated, and POC.
Probably should be on the political thread but I've seen too many people in OKC not take this seriously because they are not directly touched.

This is absolutely true. I've met people that say exactly that - "Nobody I know has gotten it, so it can't be that big a deal."

[soonerguru]

Guys, we are not shutting down this economy. You guys are only looking at this from one perspective: stopping covid at all costs. Life isn’t that black and white though. Our economy is on very shaky ground at best. Things have recovered to some degree, but there are signals all over the place that things aren’t as strong as the Dow currently indicates. This disease is scary. It’s super contagious and it kills at a much higher rate than the flu. There’s a lot we don’t know about the long term. However, shutting everything down will crush this economy. It would be absolutely devastating. .

This state never had a true shutdown. During the teeth of the pandemic people were crowding Mathis Brothers and buying cars. Nearly every significant business was declared essential.

Bars and restaurants seem to be the only businesses that were truly shut down. And, even though they are "open" now, people aren't going there in the same numbers because it isn't safe, and it's objectively not safe because Oklahoma's dimbulb leadership has allowed this virus to spread out of control.

I want you to take a moment and consider this, please. The reason businesses are hanging on by a thread is because not enough people feel safe in the establishments to return. So, doing the status quo does not help those businesses one bit. Not at all. They are truly limping along.

As astute people said at the beginning: the virus controls the timetable. Because Oklahoma is being run by an absolute moron and 58% of Oklahomans think everything is just fine, the virus continues to rage out of control.

I think even a two-week shutdown might do some good, if only to remind people that shutdowns are possible if they don't do the right thing.

[kukblue1]

This is absolutely true. I've met people that say exactly that - "Nobody I know has gotten it, so it can't be that big a deal."

Not even knowing people. Turning on the news and seeing the same people on the news everyday. Going to you fast food place or coffee place and seeing the same people working. I had an older friend that quit working the market at Braums. Him and I still stay in touch with people that work there. 6 months and still no one has gotten sick. So yeah I can see how people think it's not all that bad. I catch myself all the time thinking that. I have friends on facebook right now on vacation. On set is in Florida on is in Nashville. My brother is a teacher in Michigan also doing stuff all the time has yet to get sick.

[FighttheGoodFight]

Here’s a question for you all. There has been some good news out of China in regards to their vaccine. It’s currently on ph 3 trials in Brazil, but apparently, it is leaps and bounds ahead of our vaccines as far as development is concerned. Take the good news part with a grain of salt as we know how China can be.

Would you take a Chinese vaccine for covid??

Also, results from their trials will be published in the coming weeks/month.

Any vaccine from any country would have to be approved by the FDA and studied here in the US. I'll trust it if it gets vetted thoroughly by our scientific community.

I still think the Oxford/AstraSenenca is the best shot. That most likely won't be widely available until Feb-April 2021 if all goes well.

[Bill Robertson]

This is absolutely true. I've met people that say exactly that - "Nobody I know has gotten it, so it can't be that big a deal."

Yes. This is still a big problem. My wife and I have worked the whole time. We both have a LOT of outside people come through our places of employment. No one at her office has reported having it. Here there's me and just this week one other guy. We have a niece that was barely symptomatic. I take this very seriously but I can actually kinda understand the rationale of those that don't. Mathematically it has a high transmission rate but relatively low serious symptom and mortality rate. Before I get jumped on I said mathematically. I don't want anyone to get sick, die or have permanent issues. But this virus just isn't like ebola which very few actually contracted but if you did there was a very good chance you wouldn't make it. Therefore people were much more scared of it.

[Bill Robertson]

I have been pontificating a lot lately in how we live with this virus assuming it never goes away. If anything, it really highlights how poorly we’re set up for disease in our lifestyles. I’m going to focus on air ventilation in buildings (movie theaters, restaurants, churches, etc). It’s interesting that we just typically recycle our air. Is that the right way to go about it?

I think back to my grandparents home. It’s older. They have an attic fan. You could tell when this thing came on as it had a vent to the house, so it would pull air out. It was obvious when it was working. Maybe we need to be installing similar systems in our modern buildings. Why recirculate the air? If you could pull the air out from above and bring in fresh air from the outside, you could effectively pump out covid or other viral particles. Given the size of these particles, you wouldn’t need much air flow. You just need some...

This isn't getting to happen because people want it to be 70 to 75ish where they shop or dine. Cannot economically do that with 100% air replacement.

[Bill Robertson]

Bars and restaurants seem to be the only businesses that were truly shut down. And, even though they are "open" now, people aren't going there in the same numbers because it isn't safe, and it's objectively not safe because Oklahoma's dimbulb leadership has allowed this virus to spread out of control.

I want you to take a moment and consider this, please. The reason businesses are hanging on by a thread is because not enough people feel safe in the establishments to return. So, doing the status quo does not help those businesses one bit. Not at all. They are truly limping along.

Where are these empty restaurants. I just pulled in my driveway and on the way home I pass BWW, Texas Roadhouse, Twin Peaks and all the others on I40 between MacArthur and Rockwell. Then everything on NW Expressway from Meridian to Rockwell. Every parking lot is at least half full and MANY are way more full than that. All those people have to be in somewhere. I might actually go to a empty restaurant just to get out.

[TheTravellers]

https://kfor.com/news/okcps-transiti...-for-covid-19/

What a surprise...

[OKCRT]

https://kfor.com/news/okcps-transiti...-for-covid-19/

What a surprise...

Shocking, just shocking! I bet it will be even higher next week.

[pw405]

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The reason businesses are hanging on by a thread is because not enough people feel safe in the establishments to return.
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So very much this. Personally, my constant fear and paranoia about the virus has died down significantly since May (when I went back to the office)/June/July. I'm in my 30's, very thin, good bloodwork results, low blood pressure, etc. I have loved ones at high risk though, and even though I figure I'm unlikely to die, I feel like I need to "Do my part" to stop spread. I've kinna just adapted to a super boring life that goes something like:

- Mon-Fri: Work -> Home-> Sleep -> Work.
- Big hauls at the grocery store every 4-6 weeks.
- Drive through pharmacy once every 30 days.
- Amazon: (Some foods)/Supplements/ OTC Medicines/etc.
- Since Valentines day: 1 restaurant meal on patio (August).
- Two family dinners at residence (~7 people).
- Delivery from local, family owned restaurants: ~2X monthly.

All the while, hoping things can go back to normal. I miss an unexpectedly long night at the bar with friends. I miss random calls from family & friends "hey we're in your part of town, wanna grab a bite/drink over at XYZ?".

Looking back at my spending habits in 2019... My god I have saved so much money. No random bar tabs in ~7 months. No $150+ special occasion dinners w/drinks. No company happy hours. No concerts. Etc. etc. etc. Bezos & Newegg certainly have benefited though.

To that end... I sure hope our local bar/restaurant/venue scene isn't too heavily damaged after this is said and done. I just have that upsetting feeling knowing that so many local places must be struggling so badly, I would like to patronize these establishments... yet, the virus rages on and I don't wan to catch & spread to make this thing worse.

[Thomas Vu]

You probably already carry one around with you every day.

No kidding. Also who's providing the unreasonably small chip that stays powered and who's providing the unlimited data it would take to constantly send all of that information?

[d-usa]

A study looking at antibody results in dialysis estimates that less than 1% of Oklahomans have had the virus.