Covid-19 in OKC (coronavirus)

[BDP]

Many of the deaths are not directly from Covid. If someone goes in the Hosp for whatever reason and dies and they have a positive test it is marked as Covid. That is what some of the DRs are coming forth and saying.

If someone comes into a hospital and dies "for whatever reason" and they have a positive Covid test... is it not COVID related? How do you know that?

But let's just play along and agree that that has happened. Has it happened 200,000 times? Or, actually, one MILLION times??

Everyone has an agenda and we know that the worst the Dems can make this look the better for them come election time.

Ok, so, the democratic agenda was to get democratic operatives in the US together with doctors, epidemiologists, and virologists the world over (that is, all the ones that "the Dems" have been grooming, training, and putting through the education system for the last 30+ years just for this moment) and got them to activate their diabolical agreement to fraudulently mark the cause of death for 1 MM+ people who go into the "hosp for whatever reason" as death by a TBD coronavirus, while convincing diagnostic labs around the world to report 30MM more test as positive for that virus, regardless of what the diagnostics results actually are.

And they did all this to maybe, hopefully, crossed their fingers, to influence a few undecided voters in US swings states to tip the electoral college vote in the 2020 election for their candidate.

That is amazing! I'm so impressed, I might just go ahead and vote for that based on the sheer amount of leadership and competency it has taken to pull that off. I mean, has any Republican pulled off anything that impressive of that scale and at that level of execution??

But in the real world, that's a massive waste of resources and logistical nightmares, because they could have just made a meme, or maybe a YouTube video, hashtagged it right, and boom, you have a base. That's what the American electorate really listens to anyway.

[soonerguru]

Many of the deaths are not directly from Covid. If someone goes in the Hosp for whatever reason and dies and they have a positive test it is marked as Covid. That is what some of the DRs are coming forth and saying.

Now if you are listening to CNN and some other news media it's all Covid all the time. Yes it's bad but they have inflated the numbers IMO.

This is totally moronic. This virus attacks any weakness, just like AIDS. People didn’t die of AIDS. They died of “complications related to AIDS.” Dude, that is how viruses kill people.

If you have heart problems, COVID will exploit those problems and kill you. It attacks every organ and any weakness in your immune system. Your comment is ridiculously stupid and completely debunked by any credible disease specialist.

[kukblue1]

The graph and your casademic video don’t correlate at all. Please stop!

Do you really think 1,000 people are walking around every day getting sick in Oklahoma for the past 2 months non stop?

While i'm on a roll today. https://twitter.com/i/status/1304596764457132033

[kukblue1]

If someone comes into a hospital and dies "for whatever reason" and they have a positive Covid test... is it not COVID related? How do you know that?

But let's just play along and agree that that has happened. Has it happened 200,000 times? Or, actually, one MILLION times??



Ok, so, the democratic agenda was to get democratic operatives in the US together with doctors, epidemiologists, and virologists the world over (that is, all the ones that "the Dems" have been grooming, training, and putting through the education system for the last 30+ years just for this moment) and got them to activate their diabolical agreement to fraudulently mark the cause of death for 1 MM+ people who go into the "hosp for whatever reason" as death by a TBD coronavirus, while convincing diagnostic labs around the world to report 30MM more test as positive for that virus, regardless of what the diagnostics results actually are.

And they did all this to maybe, hopefully, crossed their fingers, to influence a few undecided voters in US swings states to tip the electoral college vote in the 2020 election for their candidate.

That is amazing! I'm so impressed, I might just go ahead and vote for that based on the sheer amount of leadership and competency it has taken to pull that off. I mean, has any Republican pulled off anything that impressive of that scale and at that level of execution??

But in the real world, that's a massive waste of resources and logistical nightmares, because they could have just made a meme, or maybe a YouTube video, hashtagged it right, and boom, you have a base. That's what the American electorate really listens to anyway.

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/c...ess_deaths.htm Right now it's about 15% more than normal.

[Bill Robertson]

Do you really think 1,000 people are walking around every day getting sick in Oklahoma for the past 2 months non stop?

Actually many more than that. And watch the video you linked. His point is new cases staying the same or rising with deaths being very low or in his Ireland example zero deaths. Our data is not like that. Make up your mind. Do you think this virus is a serious issue or not. You’re all over the place!

[BDP]

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/c...ess_deaths.htm Right now it's about 15% more than normal.

15% more than what? What do you mean by normal?

You posted it, and I don't know why, but is that not saying that 15% more people are dying than expected?

After looking at it again, all I can say is that I do not think it means what you think it means.

Now, if you accept these additional deaths and think we should not do anything, even minor easy behavioral changes to get the excess death number down below double digits, just say that. You could have saved just a little smidgen of bandwidth by just simply posting "I do not care, I support the 15% increase in unexpected deaths, because Dems want me to wear a mask on my face to prevent those deaths, and that's really what this is all about: Government control of what's on my face."

[TheTravellers]

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But in the real world, that's a massive waste of resources and logistical nightmares, because they could have just made a meme, or maybe a YouTube video, hashtagged it right, and boom, you have a base. That's what the American electorate really listens to anyway.

Speaking of that:

[kukblue1]

Actually many more than that. And watch the video you linked. His point is new cases staying the same or rising with deaths being very low or in his Ireland example zero deaths. Our data is not like that. Make up your mind. Do you think this virus is a serious issue or not. You’re all over the place!

Serious for older population yes. Over hyped and not as serious as the media is making it out to be Yes. I think we are basing too much on total number of cases. Hospitalization i'm ok basing things on but 500 in the hospital out of 3.9 million people is kind of low.

[soonerguru]

Serious for older population yes. Over hyped and not as serious as the media is making it out to be Yes. I think we are basing too much on total number of cases. Hospitalization i'm ok basing things on but 500 in the hospital out of 3.9 million people is kind of low.

This is completely contradicted by science. By all means, go to the casino if you want, but this is a baseless comment.

[kukblue1]

This is completely contradicted by science. By all means, go to the casino if you want, but this is a baseless comment.

Please explain?

[Bill Robertson]

Serious for older population yes. Over hyped and not as serious as the media is making it out to be Yes. I think we are basing too much on total number of cases. Hospitalization i'm ok basing things on but 500 in the hospital out of 3.9 million people is kind of low.

At first you were constantly predicting horrible doom and gloom numbers. Now you’ve totally flipped. I think you’re just sick of being cooped up. So go live life if you’re now convinced it’s all overblown. I will keep being safe.

[BDP]

Speaking of that:

Well, but, to be fair, you can't attribute all those deaths to the Titanic sinking. Some people died in the water.

[kukblue1]

At first you were constantly predicting horrible doom and gloom numbers. Now you’ve totally flipped. I think you’re just sick of being cooped up. So go live life if you’re now convinced it’s all overblown. I will keep being safe.

I'm just trying to look at it from a different point of view. I am starting to question these numbers. How do you keep around 500 in the hospital for over 2 months? Everyone talks about spikes. Where were the spikes in hospitals after July 4th They went up about 100 people. 100 people out of 3.9 million in the state? What if we would go back to testing people with only symptoms. I bet you cases per day go way down. So yes after 6 months I am starting to question some of this. I'm sure others are too but too afraid to speak up. This is a senior citizen pandemic. Just like H1N1 was affecting younger kids.

[Bill Robertson]

I'm just trying to look at it from a different point of view. I am starting to question these numbers. How do you keep around 500 in the hospital for over 2 months? Everyone talks about spikes. Where were the spikes in hospitals after July 4th They went up about 100 people. 100 people out of 3.9 million in the state? What if we would go back to testing people with only symptoms. I bet you cases per day go way down. So yes after 6 months I am starting to question some of this. I'm sure others are too but too afraid to speak up. This is a senior citizen pandemic. Just like H1N1 was affecting younger kids.

Again. Give up. Go party on. The sensible science believing and data understanding of us will continue to take this virus seriously. I am however a caring human being and wish you the best.

[BDP]

What if we would go back to testing people with only symptoms. I bet you cases per day go way down.

Of course they would. That's a sucker bet. Test less people, gross cases go down. By that same logic, if you count less sheep, the flock gets smaller.

[kukblue1]

Start posting the science start posting the facts. I see a lot of finger pointing with nothing to back it up. I want to see your science and your numbers. I posted mine .

I'll start the death rate for people under 65 is .2% and that is just based of confirmed cases which you figure people that had it and never tested it's even lower. .07 for people under 50

[Bill Robertson]

Start posting the science start posting the facts. I see a lot of finger pointing with nothing to back it up. I want to see your science and your numbers. I posted mine .

You have posted no numbers that made any sense at all. If they do please explain them.

[BDP]

This is a senior citizen pandemic. Just like H1N1 was affecting younger kids.

Just to be clear, which demographic are we supposed to not care about?

[BDP]

Start posting the science start posting the facts. I see a lot of finger pointing with nothing to back it up. I want to see your science and your numbers. I posted mine .

No you didn't. You posted a YouTube video.

https://news.google.com/covid19/map?...S&ceid=US%3Aen

[Bill Robertson]

Just to be clear, which demographic are we supposed to not care about?

Another odd change. For months he preached about how we needed to look out for the vulnerable older people. Now it’s only about them so no big deal.

[kukblue1]

March, April, May, June total cases 13,435 July 15th 613 in the Hospital
July, Aug total cases 45,118 September 15th 528 in the Hospital

More number from directly from the Oklahoma Health Department

[BDP]

March, April, May, June total cases 13,435 July 15th 613 in the Hospital
July, Aug total cases 45,118 September 15th 528 in the Hospital

More number from directly from the Oklahoma Health Department

You cool with that?

[BDP]

Another odd change. For months he preached about how we needed to look out for the vulnerable older people. Now it’s only about them so no big deal.

It's the internet, afterall.

[kukblue1]

Another odd change. For months he preached about how we needed to look out for the vulnerable older people. Now it’s only about them so no big deal.

It's also about the suicide rate that are high, the kids that are not getting that in school learning and human interaction, the business that will be closed forever. The families that are losing everything.

[BDP]

It's also about the suicide rate that are high, the kids that are not getting that in school learning and human interaction, the business that will be closed forever. The families that are losing everything.

You're right. It is all that. That's what we're dealing with.