Covid-19 in OKC (coronavirus)

[TheTravellers]

There is currently an exemption for religious services. The proposed amendment was to *remove* this exemption. It got shot down, so people can still go to religious services without a mask.

Thanks for the clariification, there *should not* be exemptions for religious services, ever, to reiterate my point.

[PhiAlpha]

666 new cases today. Last 3 Tuesdays: 650, 615 and 765.

9 more reported deaths.

This has to be due to our unholy city council requiring the use of masks in churches!!!!

[Jersey Boss]

Nah, they just need to replace the grape juice with disenfectant

[jdizzle]

Nah, they just need to replace the grape juice with disInfectant

FIFY - but not sure calling for mass suicide is a good way to show your humanity and how caring you are for people, since that is why you want them wearing masks, right?

[Pete]

FIFY - but not sure calling for mass suicide is a good way to show your humanity and how caring you are for people, since that is why you want them wearing masks, right?

I'm sure he's talking about altar wine.

[TheTravellers]

FIFY - but not sure calling for mass suicide is a good way to show your humanity and how caring you are for people, since that is why you want them wearing masks, right?

[kukblue1]

Wearing mask, cases over 500 a day. The new normal.

[OKCRT]

This has to be due to our unholy city council requiring the use of masks in churches!!!!

Maybe the numbers are telling us that masks don't really stop this virus? Of course we must wear them until the virus runs it's course because that is just what we do to trick our minds into thinking we are safe. I would start polling these people that are being infected and ask them if they have been wearing their mask. Just seems to me that if masks really do work the numbers would be trending down bigtime by now.

BTW, Most places I go mask wearing is close tom 100% the last few weeks. If masks work then why aren't the numbers going down?

[TheTravellers]

Maybe the numbers are telling us that masks don't really stop this virus? Of course we must wear them until the virus runs it's course because that is just what we do to trick our minds into thinking we are safe. I would start polling these people that are being infected and ask them if they have been wearing their mask. Just seems to me that if masks really do work the numbers would be trending down bigtime by now.

BTW, Most places I go mask wearing is close tom 100% the last few weeks. If masks work then why aren't the numbers going down?

Because too many covidiots AREN'T WEARING THEM. Bars, churches, parties, weddings, etc. have all been identified as high-risk and yet the covidiots just don't wear masks. Was in B&N on May/58th on Sat, and some dumba** walked in maskless carrying it in his hand, his daughters were wearing them, though. Yes, he got told to wear a ****ing mask by me. Saw people in the Home Depot near there not wearing any. Almost anywhere we go in OKC city limits (which isn't many places), there's either dicknosers or non-maskers. Sole exception is the Homeland on Classen/18th, we're there weekly, everybody we've seen there wears them, about 99% properly,

Hey, here's an idea - businesses should hire some of the massive amounts of unemployed people to be mask-enforcers....

[OKCRT]

Because too many covidiots AREN'T WEARING THEM. Bars, churches, parties, weddings, etc. have all been identified as high-risk and yet the covidiots just don't wear masks. Was in B&N on May/58th on Sat, and some dumba** walked in maskless carrying it in his hand, his daughters were wearing them, though. Yes, he got told to wear a ****ing mask by me. Saw people in the Home Depot near there not wearing any. Almost anywhere we go in OKC city limits (which isn't many places), there's either dicknosers or non-maskers. Sole exception is the Homeland on Classen/18th, we're there weekly, everybody we've seen there wears them, about 99% properly,

Hey, here's an idea - businesses should hire some of the massive amounts of unemployed people to be mask-enforcers....

LOL-Dicknosers. I do see a few of those around. But most places I go mask wearing is near 100% so for the most part people are doing what they believe will keep them from getting the virus. I wear the blue surgical mask even though I know it's not designed to keep the virus out. But I do it as to respect others. Hopefully the virus runs it course soon so I can put these things away til China unleashes the next round.

BTW you should be the mask police and hunt these evil doers down and tell them to get that mask on or get fined!

[Bill Robertson]

Maybe the numbers are telling us that masks don't really stop this virus? Of course we must wear them until the virus runs it's course because that is just what we do to trick our minds into thinking we are safe. I would start polling these people that are being infected and ask them if they have been wearing their mask. Just seems to me that if masks really do work the numbers would be trending down bigtime by now.

BTW, Most places I go mask wearing is close tom 100% the last few weeks. If masks work then why aren't the numbers going down?

You are going to the right places. C-stores seem to be 50% at best. Home Depot and Lowe’s I would put at maybe 75%. Our church is maybe 10% and I only know that from watching online. We’re not going back until this is over. Places like Twin Peaks are having car shows, poker tournaments and fantasy food drafts pretty much packing the places with virtually no one but employees wearing masks.

[TheTravellers]

LOL-Dicknosers. I do see a few of those around. But most places I go mask wearing is near 100% so for the most part people are doing what they believe will keep them from getting the virus. I wear the blue surgical mask even though I know it's not designed to keep the virus out. But I do it as to respect others. Hopefully the virus runs it course soon so I can put these things away til China unleashes the next round.

BTW you should be the mask police and hunt these evil doers down and tell them to get that mask on or get fined!

No thanks, I'm one of the lucky ones and still have my full-time job, not enough time in the world to chastise covidiots (and I'd probably get arrested multiple times for being too good at that job). Thank you for continuing to wear a mask.

[soonerguru]

There is currently an exemption for religious services. The proposed amendment was to *remove* this exemption. It got shot down, so people can still go to religious services without a mask.

Dear Jesus,

Please protect me from your followers.

Amen

[soonerguru]

You are going to the right places. C-stores seem to be 50% at best. Home Depot and Lowe’s I would put at maybe 75%. Our church is maybe 10% and I only know that from watching online. We’re not going back until this is over. Places like Twin Peaks are having car shows, poker tournaments and fantasy food drafts pretty much packing the places with virtually no one but employees wearing masks.

It probably depends on which Lowe's. I finally ventured in today to the location at 39th and May. Probably at least 85% masked. Employees masked. Not crowded at all. I felt safe there, but it was a Tuesday in the middle of the day.

[jedicurt]

Maybe the numbers are telling us that masks don't really stop this virus? Of course we must wear them until the virus runs it's course because that is just what we do to trick our minds into thinking we are safe. I would start polling these people that are being infected and ask them if they have been wearing their mask. Just seems to me that if masks really do work the numbers would be trending down bigtime by now.

BTW, Most places I go mask wearing is close tom 100% the last few weeks. If masks work then why aren't the numbers going down?

look at were the mask mandates are and where the numbers are still increasing... it's not difficult to see that masks to work. Enid is a red zone and no mask mandate... places that have put them in place are seeing numbers stay the same or reduce.

[Bunty]

look at were the mask mandates are and where the numbers are still increasing... it's not difficult to see that masks to work. Enid is a red zone and no mask mandate... places that have put them in place are seeing numbers stay the same or reduce.

Not Stillwater. It went ahead of Enid in total positive cases. As no. 6 city, it's never been so high.

[Pete]

Not Stillwater. It went ahead of Enid in total positive cases. As no. 6 city, it's never been so high.

Because 25,000 students showed up 2 weeks ago.

[C_M_25]

This page will be the longest/busiest page ever because this covid stuff is like one long argument where the same things are repeated over and over and over.

Masks work. Period. The worked all over the world. Why did Asia seemingly beat this thing? They had a less contagious strain, but they would also beat you in the street if caught without a mask.

We live in the greatest country in the world for life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. However, this is probably the worst country in the world for managing a pandemic like this.

Our numbers will continue to either stay flat or go up simply by nature of how we live our lives. Kids are in school. Sports are starting up. Fall/winter holidays. Etc etc. Wear your mask. It will provide protection for you. Control the things you can control. Avoid people in the stores. Go early or late. Try not to get hung up on all the rest. It’s just noise, and it’s stressful.

[pw405]

Is the last graph saying that for every 100 people hospitalized per day you can expect about one death? What is the recovery rate for a person hospitalized?

I wouldn't necessarily draw that conclusion - but I still don't really know what conclusion to draw from this. Considering that the 14-day average of deaths is a backward looking metric: simply adding the last 14 days of deaths then dividing by 14, while hospitalized patients is a "snapshot" of a single day, I think that making a comparison of these two values directly - on a single day - wouldn't tell us much.

However, when plotted over time and comparing the direction of the trends - I initially thought that as the # of patients in the hospital started trending upward in June, that we would see deaths start to follow the same trend about two weeks later.

That assumption held pretty true from mid June to late July: hospitalized patients went up, the 14-day (and 7-day) death average also trended upwards, and the two metrics seemed pretty closely correlated. Hospitals even publicly announced they had activated surge plans, and the expectation was that we could very easily see hospital counts hit the 1,000 mark by the end of August if they kept rising like they did from mid-June to mid-July. After all, we kept seeing cases increase during this time too.

But then in August... hospital #'s stayed flat, while deaths continued marching upwards to multiple new highs. I find this unusual and somewhat concerning. A previous poster on this thread mentioned that maybe as hospitals fill up, they become more strict about the severity of Covid in patients they admit. That is certainly a reasonable explanation. Given the high count of deaths we saw in August, it makes me wonder - are hospitals being TOO strict with their admission standards? Are some of the deceased patients not getting the hospital care they need to due to some constraint? (Staffing, Facilities, PPE, Financial, etc. etc. ?)

The state's Weekly Epidemiology report has two pages that may be useful to analyze: The "Epidemiological Estimates" and "Time to Event' sections:



The Executive Order report also tracks a metric, "Hospitalized Ever". Today, the figure is 4,903. With a total case count of 59,399 that means that 8.3 % of cases required a hospital trip. I may plot this over time and see if it tells us anything.

[kukblue1]

What is up with Hospitalizations? 545 again today. They have been about the same for 3 weeks now which seems kind of odd to me. Are the same amount of people leaving the hospital at the same rate they are coming in? Are there a core of about 400 people or so that have been in the hospital for 3 weeks now? Seems odd to me that this number wouldn't have some more ups and downs than what it has been in the last 3 weeks or so with the numbers around 550

[pw405]

What is up with Hospitalizations? 545 again today. They have been about the same for 3 weeks now which seems kind of odd to me. Are the same amount of people leaving the hospital at the same rate they are coming in? Are there a core of about 400 people or so that have been in the hospital for 3 weeks now? Seems odd to me that this number wouldn't have some more ups and downs than what it has been in the last 3 weeks or so with the numbers around 550

I have been wondering these same things myself.

[dankrutka]

Well I guess we can throw out the numbers on the death count as they are about as inaccurate as can be according to the CDC. Now they say only 6% of the reported deaths are actually from the Covid Virus. What a huge sham this has been. It appears that the people have been mislead in a big way.

If you are under 65 and in decent health you are not dying from this virus. Sure there will be a very rare exception but if your healthy and under 65 the chances of you dying from this virus is so small it doesn't even register.

Responds with misinformation and misunderstandings. *double face palm*

[Bill Robertson]

What is up with Hospitalizations? 545 again today. They have been about the same for 3 weeks now which seems kind of odd to me. Are the same amount of people leaving the hospital at the same rate they are coming in? Are there a core of about 400 people or so that have been in the hospital for 3 weeks now? Seems odd to me that this number wouldn't have some more ups and downs than what it has been in the last 3 weeks or so with the numbers around 550

Look at graphs of the 7 day running averages of new cases and hospitalizations they are about what should expected. The case trend line has a few dips and rises but essential if you flatten it out just a bit then the hospitalization trend line follows the new case trend line with a couple week lag.

[TheTravellers]

Health Officials Worry Nation Not Ready For COVID-19 Vaccine

"In Mississippi, for example, health officials still rely on faxes, said the state’s health officer, Dr. Thomas Dobbs. “You can’t manually handle 1,200 faxes a day and expect anything efficient to happen,″ he said."

"Meanwhile, health departments are dealing with what Minnesota’s Ehresmann described as “legacy” vaccine registries, sometimes dating to the late 1980s."

Pretty pathetic state of affairs for the "greatest country in the world" to be in...

[Bill Robertson]

Health Officials Worry Nation Not Ready For COVID-19 Vaccine

"In Mississippi, for example, health officials still rely on faxes, said the state’s health officer, Dr. Thomas Dobbs. “You can’t manually handle 1,200 faxes a day and expect anything efficient to happen,″ he said."

"Meanwhile, health departments are dealing with what Minnesota’s Ehresmann described as “legacy” vaccine registries, sometimes dating to the late 1980s."

Pretty pathetic state of affairs for the "greatest country in the world" to be in...

Working where I do I’m not at all surprised. We’re years behind on some technology.