Covid-19 in OKC (coronavirus)

[RustytheBailiff]

136 children died during the 2019-2020 flu season. So far, 36 children have died from COVID-19 with 21 states having zero deaths. Maybe the school is going by that. If only few of their kids and teachers are out with COVID-19, don't be surprised if the school goes on with what it is doing, or not doing.

No cares about their parents or grandparents?

[kukblue1]

I was wondering how long it would be before people started running their mouths about masks although I suspect you are being sarcastic. Masks are obviously helping. Schools, on the other hand, are not helping.

a little bit of sarcasm but the numbers could be going down for a variety of reasons maybe people are staying farther apart I honestly thought we would see a little bit more of a drop when people start taking mask more seriously

[d-usa]

Paper masks will not stop the virus. That is a fact no matter what they say. But we will continue to wear them because it makes some folks feel safer. I have given up wearing them for the most part but I don't mind wearing them in a crowd that is in close quarters.

I’m sure everybody posting this stuff will be happy with any surgeons treating them going without masks from now on.

Masks ranked in order of effectiveness:

1. Fitted N95, no valve (14 in photo)
2. 3-layer surgical mask (1)
3. Cotton-polypropylene-cotton mask (5)
4. 2-layer polypropylene apron mask (4)
5. 2-layer cotton, pleated style mask (13)
6. 2-layer cotton, pleated style mask (7)
7. Valved N95 mask (2)
8. 2-layer cotton, Olson style mask (8)
9. 1-layer Maxima AT mask (6)
10. 1-layer cotton, pleated style mask (10)
11. 2-layer cotton, pleated style mask (9)
12. Knitted mask (3)
13. Double-layer bandana (12)
14. Gaiter-style neck fleece (11)

[TheTravellers]

Paper masks will not stop the virus. That is a fact no matter what they say. ...

Really, a fact? Prove it. And which masks are made of paper? Don't think I've ever seen any......

[Pete]

Of course there is an uptick now that kids are going back to school.

It's just a matter how how much the cases are going to go up.


Plus, yes people are wearing masks, but bars are now very busy and nobody is wearing masks in those places.

[dankrutka]

Masks work.

Paper masks will not stop the virus. That is a fact no matter what they say. But we will continue to wear them because it makes some folks feel safer. I have given up wearing them for the most part but I don't mind wearing them in a crowd that is in close quarters.

Masks work.

This is called a truth sandwich. You make sure to state the truth on each side of the misinformation. At this point, if you still don’t believe in the widespread scientific consensus on masks, you’re either a troll or hopelessly susceptible to misinformation.

[soonerguru]

And yet they tell me masks are working. Just exactly how are they working when a good 10% of the population refuse to wear them a good 50% don't wear them correctly

Masks work in limited interactions. But, schools have now been opened more than a week, and masks work only so well when you are trapped in an enclosed space with 25 other people for like six hours a day.

[soonerguru]

Stitt has made us a top ten state!

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?sto...t=feed_comment

[Pete]

667 new cases reported today, the most in the last 5 Sundays.

2 more reported deaths.

[BDP]

And yet they tell me masks are working. Just exactly how are they working when a good 10% of the population refuse to wear them a good 50% don't wear them correctly

Well, yeah. Masks don't work if people don't actually wear them. Just like vaccines don't work unless people get vaccinated. Seat belts don't work if people don't wear them. Parachutes don't work, if you don't open them (and wear them until you land, I might add).

And just like vaccines, seat belts. and parachutes, the recommendation to wear a mask is not based on the idea that doing so will eliminate the risk entirely. It's based on the concept that doing greatly mitigates risk.

So, when you're looking at it statistically, in terms of illness and death, think about it like seat belts. We have laws that require seat belts. And there is still going to be a percentage of people who do not wear seat belts or do not wear them correctly. And there will still be deaths and injury, even for people who are wearing seat belts.

But does that invalidate the idea that wearing seat belts is a good thing?

And the difference here is that you can't save anyone else's life by wearing a seat belt. But, if you could, why would you resist that on that basis?

Masks work because they help. Not because they eliminate the disease entirely.

[jedicurt]

No cares about their parents or grandparents?

nope. apparently not...

[Pete]

713 new cases today, which is a bunch for a Monday. Last four Mondays: 357, 369, 397 and 377.

Rolling 7-day average is now 744, the highest in 3 weeks.

1 more reported death.

[d-usa]

Oklahoma Source is reporting again that they are now counting antigen tests differently, which caused an increase.

I used to be a fan of their page, but I’m taking their stuff with a grain of salt right now.

[Bunty]

Just reporting on how many cases there are every day doesn't give a picture on how well people are doing with the virus. But then if it was reported that just about everybody is not doing bad, such as feeling no worse than when Gov. Stitt had it, it wouldn't work to discourage further spread of covid.

But it should be clear enough by now that people over age 65, especially those in poor health, should be quite serious about trying to avoid covid.

[Pete]

You don't need a detailed analysis to know that cases are increasing due to schools reopening and people interacting in bars without precautions. I'm very worried about what will happen when it turns cold outside.

Also, the number of deaths has been going up dramatically, both locally and nationally.

[soonerguru]

Oklahoma Source is reporting again that they are now counting antigen tests differently, which caused an increase.

I used to be a fan of their page, but I’m taking their stuff with a grain of salt right now.

I read that as well, but the article said they are "going to start" counting those. Not clear if today's numbers reflect that.

[Bunty]

You don't need a detailed analysis to know that cases are increasing due to schools reopening and people interacting in bars without precautions. I'm very worried about what will happen when it turns cold outside.

Also, the number of deaths has been going up dramatically, both locally and nationally.

But most of the deaths have been happening to people over age 65. In Oklahoma it's 79.5%. That's not much of a drop from when it was bit over 80%. Maybe too many older people are still not taking the virus seriously. But who knows the percentage of people who were infected with the virus at any age who are still having bad after effects weeks to months after checking negative? If it's a high percentage, it might help young people take the threat of covid more seriously.

[Pete]

But most of the deaths have been happening to people over age 65. In Oklahoma it's 79.5%. Maybe too many older people are still not taking the virus seriously. But who knows the percentage of people who were infected with the virus at any age who are still having bad after effects weeks to months after checking negative? If it's a high percentage, it might help young people take the threat of covid more seriously.

The people dying have to catch it from somewhere and there is no question the spread has picked way up again.

[soonerguru]

Just reporting on how many cases there are every day doesn't give a picture on how well people are doing with the virus. But then if it was reported that just about everybody is not doing bad, such as feeling no worse than when Gov. Stitt had it, it wouldn't work to discourage further spread of covid.

But it should be clear enough by now that people over age 65, especially those in poor health, should be quite serious about trying to avoid covid.

You mean like a significant amount of faculty and staff at OU and OSU? And tbh, the threshold should be lowered to 50 at least. My 20-year-old healthy relative was knocked out of commission for weeks, with lingering symptoms. This is a dangerous and unpredictable virus that attacks multiple organs of the body, live or die.

Continuing to repeat the "over 65" mantra is creating a massive communications problem in which people under 65 think this is somehow safe. It is not safe. It is also not known what long-term damage this does to people with even minor symptoms.

This is information warfare that has become totally politicized. If you pay attention to health officials, not politicians, you will know that COVID-19 is serious business.

I agree with Pete that a spike is inevitable, and it is hard for me to imagine the universities remaining open for in-person classes.

For about the 1000th time, THIS IS NOT JUST ABOUT DEATHS. Good crimony.

[Bunty]

My main concern is over too many people still not taking covid seriously and what to do about it. The increased cases and deaths prove they aren't. Opposition to going back to shutdowns are another sign of it.

In Stillwater on the strip, are bars putting up makeshift patios outside going to work? I doubt it, since people will still be seated closely at the tables not knowing who may have the virus. It would surely help if rapid tests were much more widespread. Bar patios won't work when it turns cold. If kerosine heaters are used in response, the fumes won't smell good.

[Bill Robertson]

I read that as well, but the article said they are "going to start" counting those. Not clear if today's numbers reflect that.

The article did say “as early as Monday “. If so that would explain today’s number being so high. I wish the OSDH would state something about these changes when they make them.

[jn1780]

The people dying have to catch it from somewhere and there is no question the spread has picked way up again.

When you change the density and composition of college towns overnight, its not surprising that you see an increase in cases. It also won't be surprising to see these confirm cases drop sometime in the next couple of weeks. I would have preferred schools waited at least until mid-September just so that these less dense population centers have a chance to move further along on the curve as some of the larger cities that students are coming from.

One thing to keep in mind with the numbers the past few days is that A lot of these numbers are coming from Muskogee because of the prison. This county will stop showing up either tomorrow or Wednesday. It was the only county over 100 with today's release at 161!

OK and Tulsa country are still looking pretty flat with the 7 day average for OKC gradually coming down.

https://muskogeenow.com/ Currently second story

Mayor: Testing at prison gives Muskogee County 400 new COVID cases in a day
By Leif M. Wright
Saturday, August 29, 2020, 8:18 AM
Testing in the wake of the MuskogeeNOW story earlier this week at Eddie Warrior Correctional Facility in Taft has resulted in more than 400 new positive cases of COVID-19 in a single day, according to Muskogee Mayor Marlon Coleman.

“Members of the Muskogee City-County Task Force were briefed today regarding the COVID-19 outbreak at the Eddie Warrior Correctional Facility, resulting in Muskogee County showing a record high number of more than 400 new coronavirus cases reported in a single day,” Coleman said. “More cases are expected as testing continues.”

The prison’s open dorm-style housing does not allow for proper quarantining, and relying upon guards to decide who got tested did not adequately allow for preventing the spread of the disease either.

“This event, along with the reopening of schools, means we must be more vigilant in the battle against the spread of COVID-19, including consideration of stronger safety measures to be incorporated into the city existing mitigation plan in the coming days,” Coleman said. “We must protect families, small businesses and the local economy by staying at home if you are ill; wear masks when in public; and, when around people outside of your household, practice social distancing, and follow all other CDC recommendations in the ongoing battle to defeat COVID-19.”

[PhiAlpha]

You mean like a significant amount of faculty and staff at OU and OSU? And tbh, the threshold should be lowered to 50 at least. My 20-year-old healthy relative was knocked out of commission for weeks, with lingering symptoms. This is a dangerous and unpredictable virus that attacks multiple organs of the body, live or die.

Continuing to repeat the "over 65" mantra is creating a massive communications problem in which people under 65 think this is somehow safe. It is not safe. It is also not known what long-term damage this does to people with even minor symptoms.

This is information warfare that has become totally politicized. If you pay attention to health officials, not politicians, you will know that COVID-19 is serious business.

I agree with Pete that a spike is inevitable, and it is hard for me to imagine the universities remaining open for in-person classes.

For about the 1000th time, THIS IS NOT JUST ABOUT DEATHS. Good crimony.

Man, you must have some really unlucky family members and friends that you keep mentioning (not doubting what you’re saying, it’s just surprising how it varies from person to person). I knew the likely OKC patient zero who was in his 60s and died with a few complications and the fact that he was one of the first people treated here didn’t help. My wife knows one other person that’s about 40 who had an extremely rough time and lost an arm because of it. Outside of that we know about 40-50 people, maybe more, in multiple age brackets who’ve had it all of which had varying degrees of symptom severity but the common thread is that they’ve all been completely fine after 1-2 weeks with no lingering symptoms or complications. All have gone back to living a normal life, exercising without issue, etc. it has to be a pretty unlucky and tiny fraction of the population that has any lasting effect from this...though those are of course the case you hear about so it seems a lot more widespread than it actually is.

[jn1780]

Man, you must have some really unlucky family members and friends that you keep mentioning (not doubting what you’re saying, it’s just surprising how it varies from person to person). I knew the likely OKC patient zero who was in his 60s and died with a few complications and the fact that he was one of the first people treated here didn’t help. My wife knows one other person that’s about 40 who had an extremely rough time and lost an arm because of it. Outside of that we know about 40-50 people, maybe more, in multiple age brackets who’ve had it all of which had varying degrees of symptom severity but the common thread is that they’ve all been completely fine after 1-2 weeks with no lingering symptoms or complications. All have gone back to living a normal life, exercising without issue, etc. it has to be a pretty unlucky and tiny fraction of the population that has any lasting effect from this...though those are of course the case you hear about so it seems a lot more widespread than it actually is.

I'm sure if you have a comorbidity before getting covid, all the negative health effects that particular comorbidity brought you before are either the same or worse. Its not a virus that kills people because their elderly. Being elderly just makes you statistically more likely to have a comorbidity.

Getting Covid is also a bad time to discover you have diabetes or heart disease. Its a "stress test" you had no time to prepare for.

[soonerguru]

The article did say “as early as Monday “. If so that would explain today’s number being so high. I wish the OSDH would state something about these changes when they make them.

I guess the good news is that the rapid tests have become almost as reliable as the PCR tests. And from what I read, there were a total of 5,800 "investigated" cases. Considering we have had 60,000 cases, that is not a huge percentage.

However, you cannot just declare that this explains today's number going up. Friday, Saturday and Sunday numbers were already elevated. Don't you think it is obvious that with outbreaks occurring at hundreds of public and private schools and major universities throughout the state that the numbers would go up? Isn't that just basic logic?