Covid-19 in OKC (coronavirus)

[Bunty]

Regardless of whether it was a law or not, you'd think our leaders, most of whom at least publicly have encouraged mask wearing, would go out of their way to wear masks themselves, even in situations where they may not be required, in order to continue to set an example.

They won't do it out of fear of looking sickly and cowardly before the voting public.

[Pete]

Again, a law that is not being enforced is merely a suggestion. It isn't really being enforced, so not really a law. Just saying.

You are completely wrong.

And of course it's being enforced. Hundreds of businesses won't let you in without a mask.

[soonerguru]

Again, a law that is not being enforced is merely a suggestion. It isn't really being enforced, so not really a law. Just saying.

It is a law and there are proscribed penalties. People who are running to represent our city in Congress should follow the laws of the city. Perhaps Bice will try to appeal to the anti-mask crowd, but that is a minority.

[Pete]

Our governor was at Bice's watch party, no mask, huddled in large groups, taking photos with his arms around people.

This was at the OK Homebuilders facility on Britton near Broadway Extension, so within OKC city limits.

Neese and her crew were just as bad.

Great example.

[Bunty]

What's going on in Enid, rather than apparent lack of mask wear? Today it jumped the chart to no. 7 city. Stillwater peaked out at 8 in June, now 10, but in a good position to move back up from not being far behind.

Just yesterday Jones showed photos of Democrats and said they looked crazy like Charles Manson. Then he interviewed a rough, scary looking pro Trump character, who I wouldn't want to see come around my front door.

[soonerguru]

666 new cases today. Last two Wednesdays were 597 and 670, respectively.

19 additional deaths reported, 2nd highest number ever.

19 deaths!

[jdizzle]

You are completely wrong.

And of course it's being enforced. Hundreds of businesses won't let you in without a mask.

Completely? Not really. They don't want you calling the police to report non-mask wearing. So yeah, is it truly being enforced by the police? Only if it becomes an incident. Sure, businesses won't allow you in, but you aren't going to jail for not wearing it. And a $10 fine? Big deal. It is no more a law than "not promoting a horse tripping event" is in Oklahoma. A law in name only, not practice, by the police.

[jdizzle]

It is a law and there are proscribed penalties. People who are running to represent our city in Congress should follow the laws of the city. Perhaps Bice will try to appeal to the anti-mask crowd, but that is a minority.

A law with no penalties. What, a $10 fine? Or less. A law in name, but not really in practice..

[Pete]

What's going on in Enid, rather than apparent lack of mask wear? Today it jumped the chart to no. 7 city. Stillwater peaked out at 8 in June, now 10, but in a good position to move back up from not being far behind.

Putnam City was set to play a football game at Enid on Friday, and PC Schools cancelled the game because Enid is now a hotspot.

Enid merely scheduled Madill to play instead.

[Pete]

A law with no penalties. What, a $10 fine? Or less. A law in name, but not really in practice..

You could say the same about almost every law on the books.

You are really arguing against common sense.

[soonerguru]

What's going on in Enid, rather than apparent lack of mask wear? Today it jumped the chart to no. 7 city. Stillwater peaked out at 8 in June, now 10, but in a good position to move back up from not being far behind.

I have some clients there. They have a meat packing plant and other sites that could be the sources, but it is just widespread community spread in a community of covidiots. They haven't been able to get a mask mandate passed. No social distancing to speak of. People not wearing masks. Unabashed school openings, which appear also to be related to the current spike they are seeing.

[oklip955]

I think the incident at Sprouts in Edmond was more of , if you don't comply with store policy then leave and the person did not want to leave. I was in there yesterday and one person kept their mask barely covering their mouth. I told an employee who did have a package of desposable masks with him. He talked to the person. And no sooner then when he left they went back to wearing it the same way. He repeatedly talked to them. He was trying not to turn it into an incident. I feel sorry for the poor employees. If i can make a small recommendation to everyone, if you see a store employee in line buying snacks or their lunch, offer to pay for it for them as a thank you.

[Jersey Boss]

Our governor was at Bice's watch party, no mask, huddled in large groups, taking photos with his arms around people.

This was at the OK Homebuilders facility on Britton near Broadway Extension, so within OKC city limits.

Neese and her crew were just as bad.

Great example.

Film clips of the watch party for the OK County Sheriff were the same.

[Pete]

I doubt it is political. CDC has never really catered to Trump.

CDC was pressured 'from the top down' to change coronavirus testing guidance, official says

(CNN)A sudden change in federal guidelines on coronavirus testing came this week as a result of pressure from the upper ranks of the Trump administration, a federal health official close to the process tells CNN.

[BDP]

CDC was pressured 'from the top down' to change coronavirus testing guidance, official says

Well, that's unfortunate.

I guess now the plan is to actively work against a solution.

Why is contempt for public health politically advantageous now? So bizarre.

[Pete]

Why is contempt for public health politically advantageous now? So bizarre.

Because the appearance of having this under control is easier to accomplish than actually doing something when an election is looming.

[TheTravellers]

Because the appearance of having this under control is easier to accomplish than actually doing something when an election is looming.

And a huge proportion of the population gullibly believes that it's under control if our "leaders" just say it's so.

[BoulderSooner]

And a huge proportion of the population gullibly believes that it's under control if our "leaders" just say it's so.

and an even bigger part of the population just doesn't think it is a big deal for most of the population

[jn1780]

That's why you have to look at hospital data along with positivity rates and daily case counts. Oklahoma is hovering around 1.00 for an R-Value. Texas and Florida are now clearly below 1.0, and it was only a week or two ago when people were trying to say there declines were not real because of positivity rates were still high. There was a delay before positivity rates followed suit.

[BDP]

and an even bigger part of the population just doesn't think it is a big deal for most of the population

This is true. A significant amount of people think 170.000+ people dead in six months is "acceptable" and should not inconvenience them in any way.

[Pete]

*183,000 deaths and growing by over 1,000 per day.

[BDP]

*183,000 deaths and growing by over 1,000 per day.

Thanks for the correction.

I would honestly like to know if there is an unacceptable number to them.

[d-usa]

Depending on the scenario, it’s as few as 4.

[soonerguru]

CDC was pressured 'from the top down' to change coronavirus testing guidance, official says

(CNN)A sudden change in federal guidelines on coronavirus testing came this week as a result of pressure from the upper ranks of the Trump administration, a federal health official close to the process tells CNN.

So this is basically a big Kabuki dance to show "cases are going down" to help Trump's campaign. Except it will totally backfire and just lead to more cases and more community spread.

[BDP]

I guess it should be pointed out that the part of the population that doesn't think it's a big deal does not outnumber those who take it seriously and don't see people's suffering from COVID as sacrifice for their right to not wear a mask in a store for 20 minutes.

Covid denying gets a lot of play, and that demo is significant and influential, but it seems most people are trying to mitigate and manage their personal risk and the risk to the community, while making hard decisions about what is best for the livelihood and safety of their families.

Widespread testing has proven to be a great containment tool that also allows for less restrictive public policy. It's a shame that cruel indifference and political optics are standing in the way of a real strategy that could reduce loss of life, decrease suffering, AND facilitate a faster economic recovery. We could be moving past it in many respects, but we are choosing not to. Effectively, some people are advocating for more prolonged suffering.