Covid-19 in OKC (coronavirus)

[jn1780]

CDC now recommending asymptomatic people who have been exposed to the virus not get tested unless they begin showing symptoms.

Probably because rapid tests don't always produce a false positive while PCR tests do even if you were actually sick and infections last month. Plus, its takes several days to get results back from PCR tests so your always looking at last weeks pandemic.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/coronaviru...ry?id=72367904

9:24 p.m.: FDA warns against rapid tests for asymptomatic people
People without COVID-19 symptoms and who aren't known to have been exposed to the virus shouldn't necessarily be screened with a rapid test, the Food and Drug Administration said Friday in updated guidance on its website.

This new guidance raises questions about whether businesses, sports teams and others are too reliant on the rapid tests to screen asymptomatic people because they are less sensitive than PCR tests.

PHOTO: A health worker test a man for COVID-19 at a pop up testing location on the boardwalk at Revere Beach in Revere, Mass., on Aug. 11, 2020.
Joseph Prezioso/AFP via Getty Images
Joseph Prezioso/AFP via Getty Images
A health worker test a man for COVID-19 at a pop up testing location on the boardwalk at Revere Beach in Revere, Mass., on Aug. 11, 2020.
A health worker test a man for COVID-19 at a pop up testing location on the boardwalk at Revere Beach in Revere, Mass., on Aug. 11, 2020.
"'Negative' results should be considered as 'presumptive negative,' and healthcare providers should consider them in the context of clinical observations, patient history, and epidemiological information," the FDA wrote on its webpage.

Rapid diagnostic tests are done with a nasal or throat swab and can deliver results in an hour or less. They can be molecular or antigen tests, but not antibody tests.

[soonerguru]

CDC now recommending asymptomatic people who have been exposed to the virus not get tested unless they begin showing symptoms.

I don't understand this guidance at all when huge numbers of transmissions occur from asymptomatic or presymptomatic carriers. Are we short on tests again or is this political interference?

[Pete]

650 new cases today.

14 additional reported deaths.

[jdizzle]

I don't understand this guidance at all when huge numbers of transmissions occur from asymptomatic or presymptomatic carriers. Are we short on tests again or is this political interference?

I doubt it is political. CDC has never really catered to Trump.

[Bunty]

Today, Enid went ahead of Stillwater for total number of positive covid cases. I wonder how high up Enid is going to go before peaking out without a required mask mandate.

[soonerguru]

Today, Enid went ahead of Stillwater for total number of positive covid cases. I wonder how high up Enid is going to go before peaking out without a required mask mandate.

Sky's the limit in dumbville.

[jerrywall]

Today, Enid went ahead of Stillwater for total number of positive covid cases. I wonder how high up Enid is going to go before peaking out without a required mask mandate.

It's only been a few days since Weedstock. I'm sure Stillwater can take back that crown.

[BDP]

I don't understand this guidance at all when huge numbers of transmissions occur from asymptomatic or presymptomatic carriers. Are we short on tests again or is this political interference?

From a containment standpoint, I don't think it makes much sense either. It also kind of establishes the idea that test sensitivity and speed are negatively related, which isn't always the case.

But, this covers some of the angles:

Inaccurate results from rapid COVID-19 tests raise concerns about widespread screening

It seems that a lot of the issue is managing behavior based on the results. That is, do you close schools, businesses, camps, etc. if there is a positive result from a testing method shown to be less sensitive? The flip side is that if an asymptomatic person actively spreads it, resulting in multiple symptomatic cases that lead to tests that won't have results for 10 days, a lot of schools, businesses, camps, etc. will be closed because of that, and it will be too late.

IF we could identify most infected people before they spread it, it would be relatively under control and the rapid tests would obviously be a great tool to use to do that. But it would also take a great deal of coordination and resources. That's obviously not going to happen anytime soon, so maybe they feel that the downsides of using rapid tests in an uncoordinated way outweighs potential benefits??

[Bunty]

It's only been a few days since Weedstock. I'm sure Stillwater can take back that crown.

People thought the Tulsa Trump rally was going to be quite a viral disaster, but eventually OKC overtook Tulsa in total positive cases, though, probably not a big surprise since OKC has more people.

[soonerguru]

People thought the Tulsa Trump rally was going to be quite a viral disaster, but eventually OKC overtook Tulsa in total positive cases, though, probably not a big surprise since OKC has more people.

The Tulsa City County Health Department was able to trace 500 plus infections from that rally, so, what happened there is what we expected would happen.

[Pete]

Both Stephanie Bice and Terry Neese had large indoor watch parties where almost no one was wearing a mask, including our governor.

Not only is this an unbelievable lack of leadership, but how is this not against the current laws?

[catcherinthewry]

Both Stephanie Bice and Terry Neese had large indoor watch parties where almost no one was wearing a mask, including our governor.

Not only is this an unbelievable lack of leadership, but how is this not against the current laws?

That is exactly what I was thinking last night.

[jn1780]

I doubt it is political. CDC has never really catered to Trump.

It all goes back to this. If you get tested too soon, you'll just come out negative and not bother getting tested again.

This new guidance raises questions about whether businesses, sports teams and others are too reliant on the rapid tests to screen asymptomatic people because they are less sensitive than PCR tests

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[TheTravellers]

Both Stephanie Bice and Terry Neese had large indoor watch parties where almost no one was wearing a mask, including our governor.

Not only is this an unbelievable lack of leadership, but how is this not against the current laws?

If businesses keep bitching about no customers, not being able to make money, going out of business, or anything like that - point to this. I will not be eating inside, doing any more than the most cursory shopping inside (aside from grocery stores), or doing *anything* that involves being inside until we have a (good) vaccine, because of this right here.

[Bill Robertson]

Both Stephanie Bice and Terry Neese had large indoor watch parties where almost no one was wearing a mask, including our governor.

Not only is this an unbelievable lack of leadership, but how is this not against the current laws?

But remember. The current law is only a mandate that is “enforced” by the Code Enforcement office that might not get to a complaint for days.
That said. As leaders and representatives of those leaders everyone there should have been wearing masks and distancing just as a show of being responsible citizens. But no. Another sad showing of how too many don’t take this virus seriously. And why we have a very long road ahead.

[soonerguru]

Both Stephanie Bice and Terry Neese had large indoor watch parties where almost no one was wearing a mask, including our governor.

Not only is this an unbelievable lack of leadership, but how is this not against the current laws?

It is definitely against the law.

[Jersey Boss]

I doubt it is political. CDC has never really catered to Trump.

How does this new policy comport with case based intervention(contact tracing)?
I have not seen an actual rationale for this, but I have seen POTUS call for less testing when he was in Tulsa.

[jdizzle]

It is definitely against the law.

A law that no one is enforcing is not a law, just a request/recommendation. The mask mandates in Oklahoma are not very strong (nor are they strong anywhere. Oregon is the same way when I went up there last week. No one was wearing a mask unless ABSOLUTELY required, which was minimal.

[Pete]

A law that no one is enforcing is not a law, just a request/recommendation. The mask mandates in Oklahoma are not very strong (nor are they strong anywhere. Oregon is the same way when I went up there last week. No one was wearing a mask unless ABSOLUTELY required, which was minimal.

It's an ordinance which is a law.

[jerrywall]

Regardless of whether it was a law or not, you'd think our leaders, most of whom at least publicly have encouraged mask wearing, would go out of their way to wear masks themselves, even in situations where they may not be required, in order to continue to set an example.

[Pete]

666 new cases today. Last two Wednesdays were 597 and 670, respectively.

19 additional deaths reported, 2nd highest number ever.

[OKCretro]

where can you find the deaths by age group?

[Bunty]

Both Stephanie Bice and Terry Neese had large indoor watch parties where almost no one was wearing a mask, including our governor.

Not only is this an unbelievable lack of leadership, but how is this not against the current laws?

It's probably goes back to the same old problem. Why mask up when you don't know of anyone who got so sick with the virus they had to admitted to the hospital, much less died from it. I wonder if Gov. Stitt would have masked up had he been sick enough with the virus to be in the hospital for at least a few days. Or would he still say he didn't have to because he had the virus?

[Bunty]

where can you find the deaths by age group?

Here: https://looker-dashboards.ok.gov/embed/dashboards/76

[jdizzle]

It's an ordinance which is a law.

Again, a law that is not being enforced is merely a suggestion. It isn't really being enforced, so not really a law. Just saying.