Covid-19 in OKC (coronavirus)

[soonerguru]

As long as hospital rooms don't start filling up in Stillwater and Norman, I don't think classes will have to go back online. They won't, if older people in those towns take precautions when going out. The unmasked Tulsa Trump rally didn't turn out to be as big of a public health disaster some feared. So college kids partying close together may not turn out to be a big disaster, either.

Young people can and are being hospitalized. So, we will see. But what of the people at OSU who have no choice but to interact with these students? Are they just guinea pigs for the university?

I read that the Tulsa County Health Department traced at least 500 infections to the Trump rally. It's also highly likely that Herman Cain contracted the virus at that rally, and he died from it. To your point, however, the virus was already spreading rapidly in Tulsa at the time of the rally, which 1) Made the decision of going forward with it all the more irresponsible, and 2) Makes it incredibly difficult to single the rally out as a broad community spread vehicle when there were so many new cases. And yet, we have months of experience with this virus and can make some reasonable assumptions about thousands of people without masks in an inside venue sitting close together.

It's not just OSU. There were parties and scenes playing out like the Tumbleweed across the country, including OU. When you consider how many Oklahoma schools reported cases in just two days, I can only imagine what all university towns will look like in a couple of weeks. My guess is the universities will close to in-person learning and football will be canceled because "contact tracing" will be pointless with so much community spread.

[David]

Its not the worst thing in the world for huge chunks of young people to catch it while on a college campus. Builds immunity for a chunk of the pop that will be fine. If mom and dad are worried about their kid coming home and giving them covid, then don't let them come home.

Sacrifice the lungs of the young for the economy, this won't come back to bite us later on.

[Pete]

369 new cases today; about the same as the last 2 Mondays.

4 additional deaths reported.

[jdizzle]

Sacrifice the lungs of the young for the economy, this won't come back to bite us later on.

It depends, honestly. I would like to know the % of people who are having long-term effects. Even better would be having that broken down by age and health. Most that I know who are healthy have no effects, short or long-term. But I know that is a limited view, so something more substantial would be interesting to read.

[Bunty]

Young people can and are being hospitalized. So, we will see. But what of the people at OSU who have no choice but to interact with these students? Are they just guinea pigs for the university?

Yes, playing the role of guinea pig is what it amounts to, since the coronavirus is new. For instance, it isn't known how much is the likelihood for the virus to be transmitted through the eyes.

After all the maskless exposure to the virus over the past weekend, it will be more important than ever for students and everybody else to mask up and crack down against the slackers refusing to cooperate. Mask up or leave. If not enough people cooperate both while on and off campus, then I won't be surprised if Norman becomes no. 3 for total number of positive cases with Stillwater no. 4. Maybe the media needs to focus more on how sick some young people are with the virus and lingering after effects to better make the case that the virus isn't worth risking to get.

[OKCretro]

Are hospitalizations still in the mid 600's like a few weeks ago? i haven't seen that number posted recently

[Bill Robertson]

Are hospitalizations still in the mid 600's like a few weeks ago? i haven't seen that number posted recently

There were 506 on Friday.

[Bill Robertson]

I’m confused again! I see posts on every site I’m part of that Positivity Rate is the most important statistic. Why? It seems to me that it’s the one statistic most easily influenced by who gets tested. At the beginning when you couldn’t get tested without multiple symptoms and a Drs referral Positivity I think was very high. With more widely available testing it went down which is exactly what I would expect. Then if testing had to again be restricted to people known to be sick with something it would undoubtedly go way back up again. Can someone knowledgeable explain?

[kukblue1]

369 new cases today; about the same as the last 2 Mondays.

4 additional deaths reported.

I'm have been over these daily numbers now for about 3 weeks. Too up and down too dependent on which reporting site might be giving correct numbers or no numbers at all. You watch tomorrow we will be back to 1,000 cases.

[Libbymin]

https://twitter.com/ryannovo62/statu...105999880?s=20

Students in Stillwater cramming a crowded bar without masks.

[Pete]

I'm have been over these daily numbers now for about 3 weeks. Too up and down too dependent on which reporting site might be giving correct numbers or no numbers at all. You watch tomorrow we will be back to 1,000 cases.

Then why bother to post about it?

You've made the same point numerous times.

[PhiAlpha]

Sacrifice the lungs of the young for the economy, this won't come back to bite us later on.

Except the isn’t the case for 99+% of people who get infected.

[jedicurt]

Except the isn’t the case for 99+% of people who get infected.

except that isn't actually known... we don't know the percentage that will see long term damage.

[Bunty]

https://twitter.com/ryannovo62/statu...105999880?s=20

Students in Stillwater cramming a crowded bar without masks.

At least the two bars in downtown Stillwater were still closed.

Bear in mind a lot of OSU students aren't even old enough to go to the bars. Who knows how many were non students? The Salty Bronc Saloon on the strip tends to attract an older crowd.

[Bill Robertson]

https://twitter.com/ryannovo62/statu...105999880?s=20

Students in Stillwater cramming a crowded bar without masks.

Absolutely scary!

[Bunty]

To little surprise, startup of new season at the OSU's McKnight Center has been delayed until January. So the Philadelphia orchestra won't be coming to Oklahoma in September.

[Bunty]

Except that isn’t the case for 99+% of people who get infected.

That's regarding deaths. It probably isn't known yet the percentage of people who get COVID and take weeks to months getting over it. Or how likely the bad after effects will be permanent. That is a big reason I don't want to take foolish chances with it.

[David]

Except the isn’t the case for 99+% of people who get infected.

I'm not talking deaths, I'm talking about survivors with lasting lung damage. This is uncharted territory, and we don't know what we're risking.

[jedicurt]

I'm not talking deaths, I'm talking about survivors with lasting lung damage. This is uncharted territory, and we don't know what we're risking.

exactly... there is still a lot of reports of people still months later suffering from reduced lung capacity and kidney complications. i don't was to not wear a mask now and deal with constant shortness of breath or eventual dialysis in a few years, just because i felt that it wouldn't affect me since i'm young.

[catch22]

A guy I work with is 22, and he had COVID and he was out of action for a month. Healthy, fit, works out, non smoker. He said for the two weeks in the middle, he couldn't even get up to walk to the refrigerator to get a water. He didn't require a respirator, laying down or sitting his oxygen levels were fine. As soon as he stood up he said it would take about 5 minutes to get to the kitchen and back. He placed chairs around his apartment so he could take breaks on his way around the house to use the restroom, eat, or get a drink. He recovered fine, but said in the middle of it he would rather have just died. He said you get the chills similar to when you have an upset stomach (minus the upset stomach), but they last for the better part of 12 hours at a time per episode.

Another fellow I work (mid 40s, relatively healthy) with just lost his wife, although they haven't determined her cause of death yet. She and her husband tested positive a month ago, last week she complained of being restless late at night - so she went downstairs to get a drink and watch TV on the couch to hopefully fall asleep. He woke up at 4am for work to find her dead on the couch. He said every since "recovering" she has had issues with becoming winded at random times and feeling as if she will pass out. One day can run a mile, the next can't get out of bed without being winded. So even though she recovered, she still had life threatening complications that eventually caught up to her, quite soon.

I don't think this is anything to mess around with no matter your age.

[Pete]

UNC-Chapel Hill converts to remote learning after reporting 135 new COVID-19 cases within a week of starting classes

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...5-new-n1236977

[kukblue1]

Then why bother to post about it?

You've made the same point numerous times.

Got to keep the Thread Alive. Your welcome. #micdrop

[Bill Robertson]

Got to keep the Thread Alive. Your welcome. #micdrop

It’s already maybe the busiest thread ever.

[kukblue1]

It’s already maybe the busiest thread ever.

Just trying to bring a little humor. I'm sure it pasted the busies tread ever months ago.

[Bill Robertson]

Just saw that apparently Stillwater thinks this is the answer to crowded bars.
“We are considering a new ordinance that will allow certain bars and restaurants to expand their outdoor areas into some of the public rights of ways, so that we can hopefully move some of those folks outside and spread them out a little bit better.” said Mayor Joyce.