Tesla in Tulsa

[jonny d]

The issue isn’t TU vs OCU, it is TU vs U of Texas at over $4 Billion, and other private schools nearby. If yo add OU at $1.8 Billion, OSU at $750, TU at $1.4 B, AND THROW IN OCU, it still doesn’t equal just the Univ of Texas, which is smaller than T A&M.

Well of course not. UT has 60,000 kids a year, and is in a state with 8 times the population of Oklahoma. Comparing a small grape to a vine right here.

[Rover]

Well of course not. UT has 60,000 kids a year, and is in a state with 8 times the population of Oklahoma. Comparing a small grape to a vine right here.

Come on .... SMU has a bigger endowment than any OK school. It’s about commitment to excellence and education as a core value.

[dankrutka]

For education, or in general? I thought ORU lost accreditation in some programs.

Education department: https://www.kjrh.com/sports/college-...-accreditation

[BG918]

Education department: https://www.kjrh.com/sports/college-...-accreditation

That article is from 2017. Accreditation was restored the following year. https://utulsa.edu/education-accreditation-update/

[soonerfan_in_okc]

Nm

[dankrutka]

Nm

That's what Elon said.

[FighttheGoodFight]

Telsa Service Center in Tulsa opens the 28th. Some people have already gotten notice for their first appointment.

[gopokes88]

Musk moving to Texas. Step 1 complete.

https://www.theverge.com/platform/am...mpression=true

The only reason Tulsa didn’t win is because Musk wants to live in Austin. The pitch evolved into convince musk to live in Tulsa. He told Stitt he wanted to try living in Austin and therefore the factory was going to Austin, but Tulsa is on a very very short list for future expansion.

[Rover]

Musk moving to Texas. Step 1 complete.

https://www.theverge.com/platform/am...mpression=true

The only reason Tulsa didn’t win is because Musk wants to live in Austin. The pitch evolved into convince musk to live in Tulsa. He told Stitt he wanted to try living in Austin and therefore the factory was going to Austin, but Tulsa is on a very very short list for future expansion.

I know people involved in the Austin site. Your explanation is incorrect. Tulsa lost for lots of reason. Sorry Tulsa, you just don’t stack up well to Austin.

[SouthOfTheVillage]

I know people involved in the Austin site. Your explanation is incorrect. Tulsa lost for lots of reason. Sorry Tulsa, you just don’t stack up well to Austin.

My people are basically in agreement with gopokes’s people. This was much closer than your people might otherwise suggest.

[PhiAlpha]

My people are basically in agreement with gopokes’s people. This was much closer than your people might otherwise suggest.

Same

[Teo9969]

Same

Are these people Oklahoma people or blue-blooded Texas people?

[Rover]

My people are basically in agreement with gopokes’s people. This was much closer than your people might otherwise suggest.

Since I know my source’s involvement in the project, I’ll just stick with my information. Sorry it hurts Tulsan’s feelings.

[shavethewhales]

I don't doubt that there were many reasons we didn't win this bid, and I didn't really expect us to, but the attention was exciting. If it weren't for the pandemic I'd be really upset that we didn't roll the momentum into something else. It is silly that we laid out the red carpet so hard for Musk, but haven't done the same for anyone else. Let's go nuts getting some smaller manufacturers to come to town like Greenheck and Milo's Tea. We don't need the next big flashy thing, just something to keep the ball rolling!

[Jersey Boss]

Since I know my source’s involvement in the project, I’ll just stick with my information. Sorry it hurts Tulsan’s feelings.

These two articles do lend credance to your position on the viability of the future of Tesla and Tulsa.

Tesla To Build a Battery Factory at Giga Texas | Torque News
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.tor...giga-texas/amp

Tesla Hiring Battery Engineers In North Carolina & Semi Truck Engineers In Nevada
https://www.google.com/amp/s/cleante...in-nevada/amp/

[dcsooner]

These two articles do lend credance to your position on the viability of the future of Tesla and Tulsa.

Tesla To Build a Battery Factory at Giga Texas | Torque News
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.tor...giga-texas/amp

Tesla Hiring Battery Engineers In North Carolina & Semi Truck Engineers In Nevada
https://www.google.com/amp/s/cleante...in-nevada/amp/

I will say Oklahoma does not compete well with ANYPLACE that has an educated populace and competent State Government. Not to mention the racist/bigoted attitude of the population. Just no compelling reason to locate high tech,HW and SW engineering in the State. I know ,Tinker but that is Government (socialist) driven. Include the 2d or 3rd tier higher education system and you see why the State won't reach 4M in 2020 while other States separate from Ok (Oregon/Colo, Ky, La) ) or gain (UT) on OK. Not growing not going anywhere

[Plutonic Panda]

It’s so disheartening to see major companies like Tesla not give Oklahoma the time of day. Sure we land small tech firms or call centers we are missing out on so much like Amazon taking their air services to Indiana, or Tesla opening major production facilities, things like Space X, BMW production facility(lots of European car companies are building new production plants in the states), etc.

This state just doesn’t seem to care about doing what it really takes. So I guess we’ll have to simply wait for the seemingly inevitable that Texas will start to experience some of the problems California is that has led to the exodus to nearby states. I see that happening with Oklahoma.

[Bellaboo]

Include the 2d or 3rd tier higher education system and you see why the State won't reach 4M in 2020 while other States separate from Ok (Oregon/Colo, Ky, La) ) or gain (UT) on OK. Not growing not going anywhere

HaHa. I'd guess we might be closer to 4M than you think if all the illegals were counted.

[dcsooner]

HaHa. I'd guess we might be closer to 4M than you think if all the illegals were counted.

YOU would make a joke out of stagnation. Par for the course

[Bunty]

I will say Oklahoma does not compete well with ANYPLACE that has an educated populace and competent State Government. Not to mention the racist/bigoted attitude of the population. Just no compelling reason to locate high tech,HW and SW engineering in the State. I know ,Tinker but that is Government (socialist) driven. Include the 2d or 3rd tier higher education system and you see why the State won't reach 4M in 2020 while other States separate from Ok (Oregon/Colo, Ky, La) ) or gain (UT) on OK. Not growing not going anywhere

It's still worth noting that it was Tulsa than landed the no. 2 position of all cities rather than a city from one of the states you mentioned. Oklahoma City and Tulsa needs to be focused on making them more desirable places for business than on the state as a whole.

I suppose it wouldn't help much for Oklahoma to try to attract low paying companies, since it also has Texas to compete with on that as well. And Kansas.

[Rover]

It's still worth noting that it was Tulsa than landed the no. 2 position of all cities rather than a city from one of the states you mentioned. Oklahoma City and Tulsa needs to be focused on making them more desirable places for business than on the state as a whole.

I suppose it wouldn't help much for Oklahoma to try to attract low paying companies, since it also has Texas to compete with on that as well. And Kansas.

OK and Tulsa were willing to engage in promises of give-aways. Other cities could have competed and do for other things. Tulsa was and is always going to lose to Austin. Austin has brain and capital resources Tulsa does not. Oklahomans have never championed education or higher skills and will lose to those who do value them.

OKC and Tulsa cannot be separate from OK. Oklahoma laws take precedence and as long as it is ruled by it's current group it will stay at least two steps behind its competitors for economic development. We have determined that we will be a follower and not a leader society here.

[SouthOfTheVillage]

YOU would make a joke out of stagnation. Par for the course

Stagnation? OKC’s unemployment rate was below 3% before the CV broke out.

Seems like you just don’t like OKC.

[BG918]

Stagnation? OKC’s unemployment rate was below 3% before the CV broke out.

Seems like you just don’t like OKC.

Oklahoma’s population also grew by over 20k from July 2019 to July 2020. Not high growth but far from stagnant. The following states lost population during the same time period: CT, NJ, NY, MA, PA, VT, WV, IL, MI, OH, AK, CA, HI, LA & MS.

And for a manufacturing operation like Tesla Oklahoma is absolutely on the same level as Texas. Tulsa will likely have a Tesla operation of some kind within the next decade, possibly sooner. Tulsa specifically is very well-suited for advanced manufacturing, it’s already a global leader in aerospace, oil & gas machinery and heat exchanger manufacturing and through programs at TU, TCC, Tulsa Tech and Tulsa Welding School has a skilled manufacturing workforce.

[Bellaboo]

YOU would make a joke out of stagnation. Par for the course

I see you are up to your old crap again. Listen, I've got 5 doctors in my family, so were educated.

But I get the drift.

[HangryHippo]

...Listen, I've got 5 doctors in my family, so were educated.

Irony abounds, ha.