Covid-19 in OKC (coronavirus)

[Edmond Hausfrau]

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/season/faq-f...-2020-2021.htm
CDC believes it will have plenty of flu vaccine for September and October. Plus 2 new quadrivalents for the 65 and up crowd.

[Edmond Hausfrau]

Again, huge props to all the labs that work in vaccine development. Working on the Covid problem doesn't change the need for all our other scheduled vaccines. The bench researchers and scientists are amazing humans.

[kukblue1]

Under 500 cases today? So expect another huge number Monday or Tuesday?

[TheTravellers]

That’s what I was saying up thread, post 4445. Businesses need to make it clear. “No Shirt, No Shoes, No Masks, No Service. And stick to it. This can’t be beat by sitting around waiting on our elected officials to do it for us.

But, as I've (and other news outlets) have said - having a (most likely close to) min wage teenager in a different t-shirt enforcing no-mask, no-sale just isn't going to do it. And since our POS mask nandate doesn't have any enforcement teeth, and our "leaders" have told us to not bother calling the only people that can really enforce it, what's left? Everybody just go about your business, nothing to see here, just move on........... Idiots, all of them (maskholes, companies that won't enforce the mandate, the city council, the mayor, and the governor).

[brian72]

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/season/faq-f...-2020-2021.htm
CDC believes it will have plenty of flu vaccine for September and October. Plus 2 new quadrivalents for the 65 and up crowd.

Finally some good news. Hopefully we will get ahead of this thing.

[d-usa]

Lots of parents at our schools talking about how they won’t listen to the rules about walking kids to the doors and that the schools can’t stop them if they all ignore the rules and march to the doors together. They talk about how it would be traumatizing to the kids if they have to walk 20 yards to the doors by themselves, so instead they are going to throw a giant fit and make a scene and get themselves arrested instead. Because that is less trauma to the kids than spending three weeks preparing them to walk a short distance alone. This doesn’t have much to do with “it’s hard for the kids” but rather “I can’t handle not hovering over my kids as long as possible”. It’s the same group also complaining that their Kids won’t be able to wear masks at school while they are there, and they are making zero effort to work with their kids now to get them used to wearing a mask. I’m sure these same kids are also picking up the same “**** the rules, I won’t follow them” mentality they are seeing from their parents.

We’ve been working with our kiddos on mask wearing. Today, our 3 and 6 year olds already spend 4 hours wearing their masks outside in almost 90 degree temperatures while visiting the Zoo. They kept their mask on with minimal reminders, kept distances, and didn’t have any problems with it. Their 3 year old cousin has the same results.

[rezman]

But, as I've (and other news outlets) have said - having a (most likely close to) min wage teenager in a different t-shirt enforcing no-mask, no-sale just isn't going to do it. And since our POS mask nandate doesn't have any enforcement teeth, and our "leaders" have told us to not bother calling the only people that can really enforce it, what's left? Everybody just go about your business, nothing to see here, just move on........... Idiots, all of them (maskholes, companies that won't enforce the mandate, the city council, the mayor, and the governor).

This is up to the private sector. It doesn’t Is start or stop with the minimum wage teenager behind the counter. They are just one part of the picture. It has to be implemented and enforced by the owners and managers. If the teenager has difficulty with a customer, then the management needs to step in. If the teenager can’t or won’t do what is required, then they should be replaced. However, it doesn’t have to be that way if the enforcement is done before it gets to the cashier, meaning no one gets in the door without a mask. It takes leadership. And management IS leadership. And if a manager won’t do it, they THEY should be replaced. We know what needs to be done. We just need to knuckle down and do it. ALL of us. If not, then we’re all just spinning our wheels.

[d-usa]

Nobody wants to the next “[brand] store in [city] has assault after mask argument” video, so many places do nothing.

[LocoAko]

Using data from The New York Times (https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...irus-maps.html) I decided to compare Oklahoma's recent case rate over the past week (up through yesterday) with other countries*.

With 7650 new cases, our rate over the last week has been: 5 times that of Mexico, 7 times that of Russia, 17 times that of France, 16 times that of Australia, 24 times that of the U.K. and Canada, 32 times that of Germany and Japan, 64 times that of Italy, 461 times that of South Korea, and 4700 times that of... China. And that's before we begin to reopen schools.

In fact, if Oklahoma were a country, this past week would've placed it with the highest case rate in the world. But crazier yet: there are ten states with even higher rates than us! Just really goes to show how poorly the U.S. is doing compared to the rest of the world.

* with the caveat of differing testing infrastructure around the world and the fact that states are not the same as countries and can't truly be compared apples-to-apples.

[TheTravellers]

This is up to the private sector. It doesn’t Is start or stop with the minimum wage teenager behind the counter. They are just one part of the picture. It has to be implemented and enforced by the owners and managers. If the teenager has difficulty with a customer, then the management needs to step in. If the teenager can’t or won’t do what is required, then they should be replaced. However, it doesn’t have to be that way if the enforcement is done before it gets to the cashier, meaning no one gets in the door without a mask. It takes leadership. And management IS leadership. And if a manager won’t do it, they THEY should be replaced. We know what needs to be done. We just need to knuckle down and do it. ALL of us. If not, then we’re all just spinning our wheels.

I wasn't talking about the min wage teenager behind the counter, I was talking about the one that's supposed to stop people at the door from walking in unmasked (Walmart's "health ambassadors" wearing black shirts), and it wasn't meant to apply just to Walmart, it applies to all establishments. And no, the person at the door (if there even *is* one) isn't going to stop anybody from going in, and s/he won't get replaced. The manager won't enforce it, they'll ask nicely and then be done with it, and they won't get replaced either, and then everything will go on just like it's normal. All the establishments (for the most part, yes, there are exceptions) care about is making sales, and if anything stands in their way, screw that, let 'em in. And yes, we're spinning our wheels because of all that, and we'll continue to spin for months and deaths to come - a great many people just don't care and will not care. Also, d-usa's post above sums it up - take the easy way out, no ripples in the pond of capitalism, don't disturb the cash registers and everything will be fine. That's why we need an *enforceable* mask mandate (yes, they are constitutional), and not the pandering crap they passed. Seriously, don't call the police in the middle of literally a public health emergency, call the Action Line so they can show up 5 days later?

[Snowman]

Lots of parents at our schools talking about how they won’t listen to the rules about walking kids to the doors and that the schools can’t stop them if they all ignore the rules and march to the doors together. They talk about how it would be traumatizing to the kids if they have to walk 20 yards to the doors by themselves, so instead they are going to throw a giant fit and make a scene and get themselves arrested instead. Because that is less trauma to the kids than spending three weeks preparing them to walk a short distance alone. This doesn’t have much to do with “it’s hard for the kids” but rather “I can’t handle not hovering over my kids as long as possible”. It’s the same group also complaining that their Kids won’t be able to wear masks at school while they are there, and they are making zero effort to work with their kids now to get them used to wearing a mask. I’m sure these same kids are also picking up the same “**** the rules, I won’t follow them” mentality they are seeing from their parents.

We’ve been working with our kiddos on mask wearing. Today, our 3 and 6 year olds already spend 4 hours wearing their masks outside in almost 90 degree temperatures while visiting the Zoo. They kept their mask on with minimal reminders, kept distances, and didn’t have any problems with it. Their 3 year old cousin has the same results.

I quite enjoyed walking the six or seven blocks home from elementary school alone, I must have liked traumatizing myself. Some days I even extended the trauma playing on the playground alone, since it was on the way.

[Bill Robertson]

I quite enjoyed walking the six or seven blocks home from elementary school alone, I must have liked traumatizing myself. Some days I even extended the trauma playing on the playground alone, since it was on the way.

Three of us lived about 6 blocks west of Sequoyah Elem where we went to school. We made the trip more like 8 blocks because we usually went to the creek and walked it at least home. We were usually a mess when we got home!

[rezman]

I quite enjoyed walking the six or seven blocks home from elementary school alone, I must have liked traumatizing myself. Some days I even extended the trauma playing on the playground alone, since it was on the way.

And the playground a was asphalt, and the playground equipment was all steel, with no padded edges. How did we ever survive?

[Bill Robertson]

And the playground a was asphalt, and the playground equipment was all steel, with no padded edges. How did we ever survive?

REALLY! No way we should have made it!

[d-usa]

Commercial starts with dramatic music, then a voice over begins: “if you were exposed to bare metal slides on asphalt as a child, you may be entitled to compensation.”

[Bill Robertson]

Commercial starts with dramatic music, then a voice over begins: “if you were exposed to bare metal slides on asphalt as a child, you may be entitled to compensation.”

I love it!

[OKCretro]

This is actually great news, not the doom and gloom most on this board want to hear.

Though confirmed cases of coronavirus in Oklahoma rose by more than 22,000 in July, there were fewer deaths last month from COVID-19 than in April, when new cases numbered less than 3,000.

https://oklahoman.com/article/566821...hs-doctors-say

[d-usa]

1) of course as a member of this board I enjoy when Oklahomans die from COVID-19 and I am saddened by these advances. /s

2) it’s not a ****ing binary “alive/dead” outcome. It’s almost like we have talked about this once or twice in the 200+ pages here.

One of my healthy coworkers in his 30/ got the disease back in April and survived being on the ventilator. He’s still not back to work, likely looking at a lifelong disability instead of employment, and they are still trying to figure out if he will need a lung transplant.

But hey, he didn’t die so who gives a ****. It’s all about them deaths.

[brian72]

Couldn't have said it any better.

This is actually great news, not the doom and gloom most on this board want to hear.

[I]Though confirmed cases of coronavirus in Oklahoma rose by more than 22,000 in July, there were fewer deaths last month from COVID-19 than in April, when new cases numbered less than 3,000.[/I

https://oklahoman.com/article/566821...hs-doctors-say

[Pete]

This is actually great news, not the doom and gloom most on this board want to hear.

Though confirmed cases of coronavirus in Oklahoma rose by more than 22,000 in July, there were fewer deaths last month from COVID-19 than in April, when new cases numbered less than 3,000.

https://oklahoman.com/article/566821...hs-doctors-say

Here are the death totals:

April: 191
May: 112
June: 53
July: 156


I doubt many people see deaths tripling in one month as 'great news'.

[jdizzle]

Here are the death totals:

April: 191
May: 112
June: 53
July: 156


I doubt many people see deaths tripling in one month as 'great news'.

What were the case #s like from month to month?

Not making light or taking anything from those who have lost a friend or loved one, by any means. Each death is tragic, and is heartbreaking to hear about.

[Pete]

What were the case #s like from month to month?

And this matters why?

Death is an extreme lagging indicator and has been trending sharply up.


This has been covered over and over.

[MadMonk]

This is actually great news, not the doom and gloom most on this board want to hear.

Though confirmed cases of coronavirus in Oklahoma rose by more than 22,000 in July, there were fewer deaths last month from COVID-19 than in April, when new cases numbered less than 3,000.

https://oklahoman.com/article/566821...hs-doctors-say

It is nice to see a glimmer of positivity for once. Medical personnel have learned how to better treat patients and so we're seeing better outcomes because of it. Researchers and front-line medical personnel here have done an amazing job in a relatively short time. It's our job to do our best to keep out of the hospital and give them time to get even better at it so we can get past this and get back to normal.

[Pete]

377 new cases reported today.

1 additional death.

[Bill Robertson]

But this was posted on Oklahoma Source:

8/3/2020
*On the OSU ECHO call this morning, Interim OSDH Commissioner Col. Lance Frye stated that today's number would be very low and that there is still a backlog of 22,000 tests yet to be processed.

Last week had a 8.9% positivity rate. The true number of confirmed positives could be scary.