Covid-19 in OKC (coronavirus)

[Bill Robertson]

Anyone else notice that the CDC said a couple days ago that 10 days after onset of symptoms you probably aren’t contagious and should not go get tested again?

“Increasing evidence shows that most people are no longer infectious 10 days after they begin having symptoms of COVID-19. As a result, the CDC is discouraging people from getting tested a second time after they recover.

“For most persons with COVID-19 illness, isolation and precautions can generally be discontinued 10 days after symptom onset and resolution of fever for at least 24 hours, without the use of fever-reducing medications, and with improvement of other symptoms,” the CDC says.”

[soonerguru]

Anyone else notice that the CDC said a couple days ago that 10 days after onset of symptoms you probably aren’t contagious and should not go get tested again?

“Increasing evidence shows that most people are no longer infectious 10 days after they begin having symptoms of COVID-19. As a result, the CDC is discouraging people from getting tested a second time after they recover.

“For most persons with COVID-19 illness, isolation and precautions can generally be discontinued 10 days after symptom onset and resolution of fever for at least 24 hours, without the use of fever-reducing medications, and with improvement of other symptoms,” the CDC says.”

This belies the info my wife and I have read in the local COVID support group on FB. There are several people sick a couple of weeks, then got a negative test, then had a recurrence of symptoms, and then got another positive test. I don’t see how they would know enough about this virus to make such a claim. I wonder if it is like herpes, in that you become contagious again when you have another flare-up.

[kukblue1]

It's all about Hospitalizations. It's all about Hospitalizations. Hospitalizations are the only number that matter. Oh wait we just broke that record to for most ever in the hospital. Never mind carry on no worries. Record number of cases record number of hospitalizations. What other number should be worry about before we take more action? I'm sure they will come up with something. Positivist rate? Have we beaten that record?

[d-usa]

They make the claim because so far people who are released from isolation generally do not cause infection in people around them, even when the person tests positive down the line.

I have had folks test positive 2-3 months later, who have not had any detectable spread to others around them.

[Edmond Hausfrau]

I saw that and I still don't understand the fascination with that (not an actual) cure. I've had conversations with several peers about the importance of wearing masks and the most frustrating is the one that doesn't want to wear a mask, espouses they'll just take hydroxychloroquine if they get it, and yet is comfortable with that when they're not comfortable with vaccines. The whole saying, "An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure," got logged into the book of common sense for a reason in theory.

From the FDA, super straightforward statement. "Based on its ongoing analysis of the EUA and emerging scientific data, the FDA determined that chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine are unlikely to be effective in treating COVID-19 for the authorized uses in the EUA. Additionally, in light of ongoing serious cardiac adverse events and other potential serious side effects, the known and potential benefits of chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine no longer outweigh the known and potential risks for the authorized use. This is the statutory standard for issuance of an EUA."

[soonerguru]

They make the claim because so far people who are released from isolation generally do not cause infection in people around them, even when the person tests positive down the line.

I have had folks test positive 2-3 months later, who have not had any detectable spread to others around them.

Very interesting, and I don’t doubt what you are saying. Still, the science on this is not sound enough to take to the bank.

[pw405]

Late night graph dump.

Note - I was counting the 1,700 case as a single day, which caused the 7 day case average to drop quite a bit as it has now rolled out of the calculation.

A thought on hospitalizations - you either leave, or die. Concerned that the death count for the rest of the week may tick up a bit given the dramatic rise in cases and drop off in hospitalizations. Hopefully not.

Month Summary. Unfortunately, July officially is the second most deadly month:


Rolling 7 cases and deaths:


Rolling 7/14/21 Cases Only


Instead of leaving gaps for the weekends, I just carried the Friday number forward:


Wanted to see how the cases and hospitalized patients trended together. The trend seems less clear recently:

[Pete]

Yes, this is real:

[rezman]

^ That's funny. Let's storm the castles!. …. But you must follow the rules or get kicked out.

[brian72]

Serenity Now !!! Geez

[Thomas Vu]

How could Lisa not entertain that she might be the one trolling?

[LocoAko]

+848 new cases.

14 (!) more deaths.

[Pete]

We've had 71 deaths in just the last 9 days.

[gopokes88]

+848 new cases.

14 (!) more deaths.

Recovered at +1,023. First in a while I've seen recovered larger than new cases. Hopefully start of a trend.

[TheTravellers]

Are Face Shields Better Than Face Masks For Protection Against COVID-19?

“We don’t have enough large-scale data to show the true effectiveness of face shields against COVID-19 compared to face masks,” Sorrell said.

For now, if you’re going to wear a face shield, you should do so in addition to — not in lieu of — a face mask.

However, “the average person who wears a face mask correctly and maintains social distancing does not need the added layer of a face shield,” Sorrell noted.

And, of course, any protective gear should be used in conjunction with other safety measures, such as physical distancing and frequent hand washing, not in place of them.

[Bunty]

I'd sooner see a video more reflective of real life in which someone with covid coughs at different distances at a masked dummy with the dummy's mouth and nose areas examined for the virus. I think an experiment well established that mask wear keeps your harmful bacteria from spreading. In other words, great for not spreading strep throat.

[TheTravellers]

Landlord-leaning eviction courts are about to make the coronavirus housing crisis a lot worse

"As a result, as many as 26 million people are believed to be at risk of losing their homes in the coming months."

26 million, over 7% of the population of the USA......................

[Bunty]

It sure would be nice if we had a better handle on this before school starts back.

It’s going to be a cluster....

If masks really work. If the town has had required mask wear. If teachers and all other personnel are required to be tested negative. If everybody entering a school has to be masked with normal temps taken, then it shouldn't have to be that way.

[BoulderSooner]

Landlord-leaning eviction courts are about to make the coronavirus housing crisis a lot worse

"As a result, as many as 26 million people are believed to be at risk of losing their homes in the coming months."

26 million, over 7% of the population of the USA......................

this is an area where the gov should absolutely step in. and i don't mean by just blocking evictions .....

[Bill Robertson]

Landlord-leaning eviction courts are about to make the coronavirus housing crisis a lot worse

"As a result, as many as 26 million people are believed to be at risk of losing their homes in the coming months."

26 million, over 7% of the population of the USA......................

I’m going to show why I’m not in any kind of business for myself. Unemployed person can’t pay rent/mortgage. So you evict them and you have an empty apt/house that you’re still not making any income on either. At least if you don’t evict you’re making the same income but look like a really caring human being.

[kukblue1]

We've had 71 deaths in just the last 9 days.

Like I have said before. They were worried about Hospitalizations and Deaths. Both now are at pretty much all time highs and yet still no real action. What will be the next number they say we need to focus on to make them look good?

[OKCretro]

We've had 71 deaths in just the last 9 days.

I would use the term "71 reported deaths" instead of just saying "deaths.

for example today the DOK said there were 14 new reported deaths but none happened in the last 24hours. So yes these deaths could have happened in the last 9 days but they also could have happened in May but didnt report them until today.

i believe the DOK said the something for all the deaths reported yesterday as well.

[C_M_25]

Like I have said before. They were worried about Hospitalizations and Deaths. Both now are at pretty much all time highs and yet still no real action. What will be the next number they say we need to focus on to make them look good?

What are you talking about? Mask mandates are a pretty big deal in this part of the world. That is the definition of doing something.

If you want them to shut everything down again, it’s not going to happen.

I could see an argument for take out dining only and no groups bigger than 25, but let’s see if the mask mandates help. It will take another week or two to determine whether they will make an impact.

[Pete]

I would use the term "71 reported deaths" instead of just saying "deaths.

All the data is 'reported' -- cases, hospitalizations and deaths.

Everyone should understand that by now.


And it doesn't change the fact the death rate is trending strongly up, which is the key point.

[chuck5815]

What are you talking about? Mask mandates are a pretty big deal in this part of the world. That is the definition of doing something.

If you want them to shut everything down again, it’s not going to happen.

I could see an argument for take out dining only and no groups bigger than 25, but let’s see if the mask mandates help. It will take another week or two to determine whether they will make an impact.

Exactly! The mask mandates are a very good step if we can just convince folks to actually wear them.