Covid-19 in OKC (coronavirus)

[PoliSciGuy]

I think we just need to do due diligence and add today’s number to the last two days’ and then divide by three. Not perfect but at least gives us a bit of a better idea as to the context of the numbers

[PoliSciGuy]

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[Pete]

The Village just passed a mask ordinance.

[Bill Robertson]

TV news said it mirrors OKCs which is smart on their part.

[Bill Robertson]

Getting ready to go in to donate plasma again. I don’t do much in the way of civic duty usually so it feels good to try and do something for the benefit of others. especially when it seems that so many don’t give a rats.

[soonerguru]

The Village just passed a mask ordinance.

I saw Cathy Cummings' post about that last night. 5-0 vote. I didn't read the text of the ordinance.

[soonerguru]

I guess the maskholes will have to do their shopping in Edmond, Moore and Yukon.

[jccouger]

Getting ready to go in to donate plasma again. I don’t do much in the way of civic duty usually so it feels good to try and do something for the benefit of others. especially when it seems that so many don’t give a rats.

Thank you sir

[SoonerDave]

As a software guy by trade, I'm guessing the data issues plus the announcement that the county is doing it's own data tabulation boils down to an idealized "overall" system that isn't working well in practice at the individual level. This could be offices not transmitting the data in the right format, no validation of the data once submitted, inconsistencies in how or when the data is transferred... And any or all of these issues may have been present from day one. That unfortunately, suggests the data is only roughly reliable. We already know that Florida and Texas have discovered data integrity issues that may have affected their counts. I suspect there was hope at the county level the state would solve those problems, but tired of waiting and opted to just start a new process on their own. Question now is whether the state will continue its own process for all counties in addition to the county doing it's own counts. And if those data differ, whose is considered authoritative?

My fear is that the daily data is neither as robust nor verifiable as we'd like to hope. We know essentially nothing about the data reporting process.

[Pete]

The OK Health Dept. is already late today in their update.

[Edmond Hausfrau]

As a software guy by trade, I'm guessing the data issues plus the announcement that the county is doing it's own data tabulation boils down to an idealized "overall" system that isn't working well in practice at the individual level. This could be offices not transmitting the data in the right format, no validation of the data once submitted, inconsistencies in how or when the data is transferred... And any or all of these issues may have been present from day one. That unfortunately, suggests the data is only roughly reliable. We already know that Florida and Texas have discovered data integrity issues that may have affected their counts. I suspect there was hope at the county level the state would solve those problems, but tired of waiting and opted to just start a new process on their own. Question now is whether the state will continue its own process for all counties in addition to the county doing it's own counts. And if those data differ, whose is considered authoritative?

My fear is that the daily data is neither as robust nor verifiable as we'd like to hope. We know essentially nothing about the data reporting process.

Mirroring this concern, wouldn't it be easier for Oklahoma County to issue a mask order? Or any other public health orders?

[SoonerDave]

The OK Health Dept. is already late today in their update.

Meh, not disagreeing with you, but the daily updates have been as late as 11:30-11:45, so no report by 11:20 ish isn't entirely out of scope at this point.

I wonder at this point if the individual labs all report from a similar template, or system, or if they call in their data, or if they report it through a standard process, or ??? Inquiring minds want to know

[Edmond Hausfrau]

The OK Health Dept. is already late today in their update.

Retooling the county data inputs, in addition to changing the CDC interface, strike me as changing the way air traffic control functions in the days immediately post 9/11. It may be necessary but I can't think of a worse time to implement new protocols.

[SoonerDave]

Mirroring this concern, wouldn't it be easier for Oklahoma County to issue a mask order? Or any other public health orders?

I don't think the county level has the enforcement capability that a municipality (like an OKC or Edmond etc) has.

[LocoAko]

Apparently it is going to be a few hours before we gets numbers, and that the last three days of numbers will be lumped into one day rather than on their "correct" date. Kinda frustrating... https://twitter.com/KOCODillon/statu...10330194837507

[pw405]

KOCO Dillon Richards on Twitter saying it will be delayed multiple hours today...

[Pete]

Meh, not disagreeing with you, but the daily updates have been as late as 11:30-11:45, so no report by 11:20 ish isn't entirely out of scope at this point.

You are disagreeing with me and you're wrong.

I just looked through my email and the huge majority come just after 11AM and they usually update their website before that.

[SoonerDave]

So are disagreeing with me and you're wrong.

I just looked through my email and the huge majority come just after 11AM and they usually update their website before that.

And I have receipt times as late as 11:19 in my inbox for the same summaries, and that's only a cursory review.

[Pete]

And I have receipt times as late as 11:19 in my inbox for the same summaries, and that's only a cursory review.

That is an exception; the huge majority come right after 11.

And I thought you weren't disagreeing?


Just a coincidence they have announced the numbers for today have been delayed.

[SoonerDave]

That is an exception; the huge majority come right after 11.

And I thought you weren't disagreeing?


Just a coincidence they have announced the numbers for today have been delayed.

I was trying to agree with you in the broad sense that a sizeable delay from the 11:00 timeframe is unusual. I was merely trying to say that 11:15 wasnt *that* delayed. Yes, in the recent weeks, they've been more punctual.

C'mon, Pete, I think you know I'm not one to start fights here. Not trying to now.

[chuck5815]

I guess the maskholes will have to do their shopping in Edmond, Moore and Yukon.

And?

[oklip955]

And they will not be able to shop at Walmart, Sam's club, Aldi's and Sprouts. I guess they will like shopping at Uptown, Homeland and Crest in Edmond. Not sure of their choices in Moore or Yukon.

[jerrywall]

I guess the maskholes will have to do their shopping in Edmond, Moore and Yukon.

Hopefully they stay out of Edmond. We have enough maskholes here already, including the mayor.

[Edmond Hausfrau]

The president of OSMA, the Oklahoma Nurses Association, the Oklahoma hospital association, and OCCHD have all said, either via tweets or press releases to media, that there are nursing shortages. OSMA has gone further and included bed shortages and physician shortages. It's interesting to see a whole lot of local healthcare professions in pretty flagrant disagreement with the governor and the ODSH.

[Bill Robertson]

The president of OSMA, the Oklahoma Nurses Association, the Oklahoma hospital association, and OCCHD have all said, either via tweets or press releases to media, that there are nursing shortages. OSMA has gone further and included bed shortages and physician shortages. It's interesting to see a whole lot of local healthcare professions in pretty flagrant disagreement with the governor and the ODSH.

A few months ago when the governor was a “regular businessman” that I happily voted for and a really nice guy who we ran into at church occasionally with his family I would have put faith in anything he said. Now I see him as a self serving, lying pile of something I can’t say here.