Covid-19 in OKC (coronavirus)

[Edmond Hausfrau]

Oh, i don’t know... measles were stopped until the ignorant started resisting getting inoculated. TB and polio come to mind. The plague. And many others that have been arrested because of good public policies and actions of adult acting leaders. The anti vaccine crowd loves disease and suffering by the masses I guess.

Excellent point. Zika also comes to mind. If memory serves, we sprayed pesticides in Florida to try to get a handle on the vectors, and I don't recall a ton of publicized town halls screaming about DEET in public right of ways.

[PoliSciGuy]

You can’t stop death. Studies show it happens to 100% of people.
Mortality for corona is low, especially when filtering out NY’s nursing home disaster.

You can only slow a disease down, can’t stop it either. And that comes with trade offs. Those in leadership can’t be narrow minded in their path. They must consider many factors. Too many want to stop the virus at all costs.

Mortality is still multiple times that of the flu, even if for some reason we want to strip the humanity away from those dead in NY. Also, focusing on death misses the myriad long-term issues this thing causes, such as chronic fatigue, lung damage and brain damage. Playing this thing down or arguing that some folks just have to die to keep the economy-a-rollin’ is misinformed at best, callous and monstrous at worst.

[brian72]

Once the mask mandate happened this board slowed way down. Hopefully it works.

[C_M_25]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/m/6005aef...drug-from.html

Some fantastic news if this proves out to be successful on a larger scale!

[PoliSciGuy]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/m/6005aef...drug-from.html

Some fantastic news if this proves out to be successful on a larger scale!

More good news, the Oxford vaccine's Phase 1 and Phase 2 trials show real promise. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...itter-business

[soonerguru]

Colorado just instituted a statewide mask ordinace and a trip to Lowe's yesterday was probably about 99% compliance. I met a friend for a drink and she suggested a bar that was more of an American flag T-shirt type establishment and compliance was about 2% (us) despite the bar pleading with the patrons to put masks on. Sad that these freedom fighters are going to get these businesses shut down and lose their license for non compliance.

How has the ordinance gone in Oklahoma City so far?

We went to Costco and Target yesterday. Costco was 100% masked. The Target on NW Expressway was totally masked except for one Bubba guy. He was proud to be unmasked, although his kids were masked for some reason. But, he was the only maskless wonder in a very large store.

Later, we stopped at the gas station on Memorial and May and they had a Masks Required sign. I watched as one guy went in without a mask. I followed behind and he was arguing with the clerk, but she told him he had to leave the store, which he did. Another guy got out of his car without a mask, saw the sign, and returned to his car to get his mask before entering.

Just based upon those examples alone it is already dramatically different. It is working, just as we thought it would. It's an expectation now, unequivocally, so leagues more people are wearing them.

[David]

You can only slow a disease down, can’t stop it either.

Ever heard of Smallpox? Know anyone that died from it recently?

[TheTravellers]

Mortality is still multiple times that of the flu, even if for some reason we want to strip the humanity away from those dead in NY. Also, focusing on death misses the myriad long-term issues this thing causes, such as chronic fatigue, lung damage and brain damage. ...

And I believe it affects other organs besides lungs and brain, as well as causing blood clots, which can affect everything.

[Libbymin]

I saw some young guy in his 20's start to walk in to Homeland without a mask and then he saw the sign saying masks are required and he turned around.

[jn1780]

I highly doubt we've peaked. Effects of measures like masks, shutdowns of restaurants, etc. take a solid 2 weeks to show up in the stats. Using a Sunday to claim we're done is out of touch with the reality of testing timeframes. Tuesday's numbers will tell a lot.

If you consider that we probably still missed a lot of cases and the virus was more widespread than even the data says, and if there is some kind of cross immunity as some T-Cell studies have suggested, it is possible were seeing some kind of suppression kicking in.

I don't bring up Sweden to advocate their policies, but their peak happened several weeks ago. There is no logical explanation to explain this unless their getting some suppression effects. Herd immunity in ideal conditions occurs at 60%. So they shouldn't be there unless an unknown percentage of the population has some kind of T-Cell resistance.

Arizona has clearly peaked, They had a partial lockdown a couple of weeks ago.

For Oklahoma, the total hospitalized and ICU went down slightly Friday. Only one data point though, so that can't be used to make a claim for a peak. Could be Hospitals being less aggressive on admissions. But with testing backlog, I would expect to see hospitalizations decline before testing data shows a decline.

[soonerguru]

I find it noteworthy that the online Oklahoman doesn’t mention the daily total in their headlines at all. It seems I always find a “new total” headline, but now a “X today” headline.

KOCO does a better job covering COVID 19 than the Oklahoman. They may have one or two enterprise stories a week, max. Then their daily "ho hum X number of cases reported today" story, completely devoid of context. For example, I find information helpful like: Yukon and Altus led the state last week in new cases for Oklahoma cities. None of that was in the Oklahoman.

They did finally cover the outbreak in Texas County when it had been happening for weeks, and then a story about McCurtain County that left more questions than answers.

ON EDIT: This is a very well written and sourced feature by Carmen Forman in today's Oklahoman. Great writing with the kind of depth that is rare in their stories these days.

https://oklahoman.com/article/566715...s-so-political

[soonerguru]

You can’t stop death. Studies show it happens to 100% of people.
Mortality for corona is low, especially when filtering out NY’s nursing home disaster.

You can only slow a disease down, can’t stop it either. And that comes with trade offs. Those in leadership can’t be narrow minded in their path. They must consider many factors. Too many want to stop the virus at all costs.

Is this Mike Gundy talking here? I cannot believe you are still making this argument. For one, we will probably lose 200,000 Americans to this this year. Nothing has come close to that since World War II and that was over several years.

Secondly, you continue to ignore the widely known fact that surviving COVID-19 is no picnic. There are going to be millions of Americans with lasting organ damage and recurring symptoms who "survived."

You might want to stop making the same points people were making in early March, you know, before they learned lots of new stuff.

[silvergrove]

There's an interesting article on 'What makes the coronavirus so political?' by Carmen Forman on the Oklahoman website. They asked a doctor who was hesitant to wade into the political debate. He responded:

“I don’t know about the political stuff,” he said. “All I know about is the science, and I know that wearing a mask makes a difference.”

I have an advanced degree in infectious diseases and can definitely say, a good number of the public's response to the coronavirus is bewildering!

[LocoAko]

Only +168 today.

As much as I believe in the efficacy of everyone wearing masks, something doesn't seem right about these latest numbers...

[Timshel]

168 today. Obviously great news looking at it in a vacuum, but curious how many outstanding tests there still are and what hospitalization figures were over the weekend. While we've hopefully hit the peak, can't imagine that numbers stay this low all week long.

[FighttheGoodFight]

168 today. Obviously great news looking at it in a vacuum, but curious how many outstanding tests there still are and what hospitalization figures were over the weekend. While we've hopefully hit the peak, can't imagine that numbers stay this low all week long.

I believe the weeknight report shows pending tests so we should see what is going on tonight.

Also this from KassieMcClung. https://twitter.com/kassiemcclung/st...991404033?s=21

“I've been told that the department of health has been having trouble with its reporting system, which would account for the numbers we've been seeing over the past couple days.“

[PoliSciGuy]

It's a technical error https://twitter.com/KassieMcClung/st...44440991404033

I've been told that the department of health has been having trouble with its reporting system, which would account for the numbers we've been seeing over the past couple days.

[Timshel]

It's a technical error https://twitter.com/KassieMcClung/st...44440991404033

That makes more sense. Though it is a bit troubling that they're publishing these numbers, apparently/potentially knowing there are errors, and not saying anything about it to the public.

Edit: Looks like they did release a statement/included information in the daily email, which is good. Hopefully it was released as soon as practicable after figuring out the issue.

[Ohwiseone]

Which means that when they fix whatever issue they have the cases are going to spike.

Even if it is an error, I do like living in this world of lower cases.

[LocoAko]

I wonder if they'll go back and "fix" the past two days of reports for the purpose of having an accurate timeseries, or if we're just going to get an insane spike in the next few days.

[PoliSciGuy]

It's definitely an error. Hopefully we get adjusted data once they fix it.

[Bill Robertson]

N/m

[TheTravellers]

I wonder if they'll go back and "fix" the past two days of reports for the purpose of having an accurate timeseries, or if we're just going to get an insane spike in the next few days.

I'd bet the latter, hope they aren't using the same team that's working on the HHS website (is it still missing pieces of info, I haven't seen any stories in the past couple of days?).

[FighttheGoodFight]

Ya I imagine we will get some huge number that will backdate those missing days. Kind of screws up the graphs but hopefully will be fixed soon.

[RustytheBailiff]

I wonder if they'll go back and "fix" the past two days of reports for the purpose of having an accurate timeseries, or if we're just going to get an insane spike in the next few days.

Unfortunately, these scenarios are not mutually inclusive -- they could fix it for Sunday and Monday and we could still get an ungodly spike....



SAVE OTHERS WEAR MASKS