Covid-19 in OKC (coronavirus)

[Ohwiseone]

Didn't they say that the mask mandate wouldn't go into effect until mid August if it didn't get 7 votes?

I think so?
I thought I heard that if it doesn't get 7 it doesn't go into effect immediately and it will be revoted on, on Tuesday. Then I heard that if it doesn't get 7 votes it will go into effect next month.

[jerrywall]

Dozens of countries provided a great roadmap.

We knew what to do, just didn't do it.

Yeah, but it's even more striking seeing a document that was sent from the WH task force with specific recommendations - For example in Oklahoma...

POLICY RECOMMENDATIONS FOR COUNTIES IN THE RED ZONE
Public Messaging
• Wear a mask at all times outside the home and maintain physical distance
• Limit social gatherings to 10 people or fewer
• Do not go to bars, nightclubs, or gyms
• Use take out or eat outdoors socially distanced
• Protect anyone with serious medical conditions at home by social distancing at home and using high levels of personal hygiene, including
handwashing and cleaning surfaces
• Reduce your public interactions and activities to 25% of your normal activity

Public Officials
• Close bars and gyms, and create outdoor dining opportunities with pedestrian areas
• Limit social gatherings to 10 people or fewer
• Institute routine weekly testing of all workers in assisted living and long-term care facilities. Require masks for all staff and prohibit
visitors
• Ensure that all business retailers and personal services require masks and can safely social distance
• Increase messaging on the risk of serious disease for individuals in all age groups with preexisting obesity, hypertension, and diabetes
mellitus, and recommend to shelter in place
• Work with local community groups to provide targeted, tailored messaging to communities with high case rates, and increase community
level testing
• Recruit more contact tracers as community outreach workers to ensure all cases are contacted and all positive households are
individually tested within 24 hours
• Provide isolation facilities outside of households if COVID-positive individuals can’t quarantine successfully

Testing
• Move to community-led neighborhood testing and work with local community groups to increase access to testing
• Surge testing and contact tracing resources to neighborhoods and zip codes with highest case rates
• Diagnostic pooling: laboratories should use pooling of samples to increase testing access and reduce turnaround times to under 12
hours. Consider pools of 2-3 individuals in high incidence settings and 5:1 pools in setting where test positivity is under 10%
• Surveillance pooling: For family and cohabitating households, screen entire households in a single test by pooling specimens of all
members into single collection device

[Libbymin]

If they don't get at least 7 votes, there would have to be a second reading of the ordinance at the next regular city council meeting, which would be in the middle of August.

Believe it can be implemented immediately thereafter.

What's the rationale behind that exactly?

[Pete]

What's the rationale behind that exactly?

It's in the city constitution.

I'm sure it's meant to prevent measures from being quickly put through unless they have almost unanimous support. It's to allow more public awareness and input.

[SomeGuy]

Don't know if it's been mentioned but CVS, Target, Walgreen's, Barnes and Noble, and Sprouts are now requiring people to wear face masks in their stores.

[Pete]

Don't know if it's been mentioned but CVS, Target, Walgreen's, Barnes and Noble, and Sprouts are now requiring people to wear face masks in their stores.

Thanks for the info.

It's to the point that you almost have to wear a mask now, regardless of government ordinances.

[jerrywall]

Don't know if it's been mentioned but CVS, Target, Walgreen's, Barnes and Noble, and Sprouts are now requiring people to wear face masks in their stores.

Too bad the local chains like Crest don't have the courage to require masks

[kukblue1]

Too bad the local chains like Crest don't have the courage to require masks

Or Braums at least for Grocery. Mandate won't be needed shortly every business will require it anyway. I guess it helps protect the business more though.

[Pete]

Sheer lunacy in Georgia:

Georgia governor to sues Atlanta mayor over city's mask mandate

[Bill Robertson]

Too bad the local chains like Crest don't have the courage to require masks

Crest is the only grocery I go to that doesn’t have one way aisles. Not that everyone pays attention to them.

[Bill Robertson]

Sheer lunacy in Georgia:

Georgia governor to sues Atlanta mayor over city's mask mandate

What can he possibly be thinking. When Atlanta has been one of the worst spots.

[C_M_25]

In a bit of good news on the treatment and vaccine front:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/hopes-cor...115924064.html

And

https://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKCN24G2WM

[soonerguru]

Watching the news while i finishing up some work, and they mentioned that they already know of 2 "no" votes for the mask ordinance, and another that might another no vote.

I am not sure if it goes 6 -3 what the process is. ( I thought that they retable it and vote on it next week, or it doesn't go into effect until next month), but It might not go into effect immediately after tomorrows vote.

The two no votes at the moment are Larry McAtee and Greiner. Stone seems like a wobbly yes. Everyone else is on board so it is shaping up to a 7-2 or 6-3 vote.

Many people are hitting up McAtee and have been emailing him en masse. He claimed in the meeting he made up his mind based on callers to a radio show he was on last night (haha, WTF?). Will be interesting if he sticks with that with so many of his constituents reaching out to him directly.

The solid yes votes are Holt, Stonecipher, Cooper, Hamon, Nice and Greenwell, with Stone looking like a likely yes. If it is passed 6-3 I suppose the mayor could enact an emergency declaration that goes into effect immediately and until the ordinance commences.

What is odd is that the date is set through only September 8, which makes very little sense if it doesn't even go into actual effect until August 21. It would have been way better to make it active through November or December with the ability to end it early.

[pw405]

Thankfully, today's hospital numbers total 604. Down from yesterday's 638.

[TheTravellers]

The two no votes at the moment are Larry McAtee and Greiner. Stone seems like a wobbly yes. Everyone else is on board so it is shaping up to a 7-2 or 6-3 vote.

Many people are hitting up McAtee and have been emailing him en masse. He claimed in the meeting he made up his mind based on callers to a radio show he was on last night (haha, WTF?). Will be interesting if he sticks with that with so many of his constituents reaching out to him directly.

The solid yes votes are Holt, Stonecipher, Cooper, Hamon, Nice and Greenwell, with Stone looking like a likely yes. If it is passed 6-3 I suppose the mayor could enact an emergency declaration that goes into effect immediately and until the ordinance commences.

What is odd is that the date is set through only September 8, which makes very little sense if it doesn't even go into actual effect until August 21. It would have been way better to make it active through November or December with the ability to end it early.

We're ****ed.

[kukblue1]

Thankfully, today's hospital numbers total 604. Down from yesterday's 638.

ICU went up and I heard and it might not be the case here but they are sending people home on oxygen just so they can make room for others.

[pw405]

ICU went up and I heard and it might not be the case here but they are sending people home on oxygen just so they can make room for others.

Ya... unfortunately I fully expect a dramatic reversal based on the amount of cases we've seen this week. I've seen independent OK journalists on Twitter saying they've been waiting ~7 days (maybe more) for their test results.

[Edmond Hausfrau]

Don't know if it's been mentioned but CVS, Target, Walgreen's, Barnes and Noble, and Sprouts are now requiring people to wear face masks in their stores.

That is good news.
It's 3 months too late, but it's still good news.

[mkjeeves]

I sent James Greiner an email a couple of days ago asking him to vote for a mask ordinance. Guess we'll have to vote him out next.

[Edmond Hausfrau]

ICU went up and I heard and it might not be the case here but they are sending people home on oxygen just so they can make room for others.

Staffing shortages are spreading in various states. Healthcare workers who have been exposed to Covid-19 and are still out. Docs who are mentally exhausted from arguing at town hall meetings and then going back to 12 hour ER shift without enough PPE or supplies. If enough states keep spiking all at the same time, we literally do not have enough well -rested, healthy, adequately trained medical staff left in the country.
The president didn't do us any favors by suspending H1 visas for doctors either.
You really don't want to get sick right now with anything requiring intensive medical intervention. We won't have the manpower available.

[Edmond Hausfrau]

And don't tell me we can just call back everybody we furloughed in the spring unceremoniously.
Would you want to go back into this storm?

[soonerguru]

Thankfully, today's hospital numbers total 604. Down from yesterday's 638.

Home free! Sorry, didn't mean to be sarcastic, but glad you can find joy in this dismal moment.

[soonerguru]

Ya... unfortunately I fully expect a dramatic reversal based on the amount of cases we've seen this week. I've seen independent OK journalists on Twitter saying they've been waiting ~7 days (maybe more) for their test results.

My wife and I were told it would be 10 days on Tuesday when we got tested.

[catch22]

My wife and I were told it would be 10 days on Tuesday when we got tested.

what is going on down there? Up here results are coming back within 48 hours no matter if it is a weekday or weekend. And that's with 200 cars in line all day at the testing sites. Are they delivering these tests to the lab on horse and buggy?

[Pete]

Yesterday was another record day in the U.S.

77,255 new cases and 943 people died.