Covid-19 in OKC (coronavirus)

[Pete]

I broke one of my Cardinal Rules and ate at Uncle Julio’s.

It was the slowest I’ve ever seen it, but I’m not sure if it’s a function of the market figuring out it sucks or the pandemic.

They were crazy busy until the pandemic and they are very successful elsewhere.

[Bill Robertson]

Very big concern -- and we haven't done anything about setting up emergency hospital beds. I guess we don't plan for that until it hits zero first.


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One of the things Stitt keeps saying is that during the “shut down” hospitals built up surge capacity. But I haven’t ever heard exactly how or where which makes me believe that’s a crock.

[Edmond Hausfrau]

Very big concern -- and we haven't done anything about setting up emergency hospital beds. I guess we don't plan for that until it hits zero first.

Hospitals do have plans in place, disaster drills mandate it. They have phased use of areas. I know one metro area hospital is currently flexing into their Phase 2 beds and adding more staff.
The reason you don't have full transparency on that is the same reason that I don't know for sure how many people can fit in your backyard storm shelter. They are private, for-profit entities.

[HangryHippo]

One of the things Stitt keeps saying is that during the “shut down” hospitals built up surge capacity. But I haven’t ever heard exactly how or where which makes me believe that’s a crock.

It's mostly a crock, but Hausfrau expounded on what some do.

[Edmond Hausfrau]

Lots of areas in hospitals can become bed space in a disaster. Recovery rooms, pre-op holding areas, procedure rooms. The point here is that these conversions occur during ongoing disasters, often with waves of casualties.
This is an ongoing disaster.

[Edmond Hausfrau]

And I do agree that some of it is a "crock" because there are hard physical limits, as well as staffing. You can't just suddenly roll a bunch of litters into the cafeteria, ask HVAC to seal it as negative pressure, and deputize the cooks as respiratory therapists.
At least, I don't remember reading that in any of the memos...

[BoulderSooner]

Here are the exceptions to the Tulsa mask order just signed into effect.

Not they do not except churches:

what is interesting about his is that any one could say that #1 applies to themselves and really not be questioned ..

[oklip955]

I do like the idea of closing down 16th and making it more of a pedestrian and outside eating area permanently. I think it would do wonders for the area. Traffic could be routed around the area.

[HangryHippo]

And I do agree that some of it is a "crock" because there are hard physical limits, as well as staffing. You can't just suddenly roll a bunch of litters into the cafeteria, ask HVAC to seal it as negative pressure, and deputize the cooks as respiratory therapists.
At least, I don't remember reading that in any of the memos...

That's why it's mostly crock - you plan and then there's what actually happens when a pandemic intensifies in a vacuum of leadership. Sh*t starts to hit the fan real quick. The best laid plans and all.

[soonerguru]

what is interesting about his is that any one could say that #1 applies to themselves and really not be questioned ..

People will do it. I saw two perfectly healthy cowpokes wandering around Costco with sh*teating grins on their faces and t-shirts that said "Freedom" on them without masks. I asked a Costco attendant and she said they claimed a "medical condition" prevented wearing masks. She rolled her eyes. Whatever. Most people aren't total a-holes.

[TheTravellers]

People will do it. I saw two perfectly healthy cowpokes wandering around Costco with sh*teating grins on their faces and t-shirts that said "Freedom" on them without masks. I asked a Costco attendant and she said they claimed a "medical condition" prevented wearing masks. She rolled her eyes. Whatever. Most people aren't total a-holes.

Require a signed doctor's note for medical exemptions. Yeah, some would falsify that, but I'm guessing most wouldn't do it well enough to pass for real notes.

[TheTravellers]

String some lights across 16th and eat dinner with your date at 900 pm. I believe eating later is common in other parts of the world.

Tonight at 9:00, supposed to be 89 degrees and probably heat index of 95 or so. Nope.

[jerrywall]

One of the things Stitt keeps saying is that during the “shut down” hospitals built up surge capacity. But I haven’t ever heard exactly how or where which makes me believe that’s a crock.

I thought that was a big part of them closing down Deaconess. From what I've been told two floors there are still dedicated for Covid Surge flow.

[jerrywall]

People will do it. I saw two perfectly healthy cowpokes wandering around Costco with sh*teating grins on their faces and t-shirts that said "Freedom" on them without masks. I asked a Costco attendant and she said they claimed a "medical condition" prevented wearing masks. She rolled her eyes. Whatever. Most people aren't total a-holes.

Of course, Costco (or anyone else) could still refuse entrance for anyone who can't wear a mask because of medical conditions. Curbside pickup is more than sufficient for reasonable accommodation.

[soonerguru]

Of course, Costco (or anyone else) could still refuse entrance for anyone who can't wear a mask because of medical conditions. Curbside pickup is more than sufficient for reasonable accommodation.

I saw another yuppie jackass dressed in a polo shirt taking selfies without a mask in front of the granola aisle at Whole Foods. I think there is literally a group of trolling assholes who go around town doing this for entertainment. Now that Wal-Mart and everyone else is stepping up it will be entertaining watching these people go off.

[GoGators]

String some lights across 16th and eat dinner with your date at 900 pm. I believe eating later is common in other parts of the world.

This is a great idea. I've been seeing reports where larger cities across the country have started doing exactly this in certain areas to increase outdoor dining capacity. Would be a hit in the plaza for sure.

[Libbymin]

People will do it. I saw two perfectly healthy cowpokes wandering around Costco with sh*teating grins on their faces and t-shirts that said "Freedom" on them without masks. I asked a Costco attendant and she said they claimed a "medical condition" prevented wearing masks. She rolled her eyes. Whatever. Most people aren't total a-holes.

Agreed on the last point. I know a lot of attention has been thrown at the people who defiantly refuse to wear a mask, scream or spit at patrons/staff in stores, or just make a scene, but I think most people just want to do the right thing, no matter what walk of life or what side of the political spectrum they fall on.

The problem is the messaging has been so all over the place with differences in opinion between the health department, the CDC, the mayor, our governor, and our President. One day our governor is saying that yes this thing is still out there but we're doing ok and I think we're a long way away from needing to do a shutdown and then the next day, the health dept is recommending bars and restaurants to close again. One press conference, our governor is demonstrating to people to put on a mask so we'll be able to have the normal things in our lives that we want like college football and then there are pictures of him at Walmart and at a Vietnamese restaurant without a mask and even hugging people.

If you only casually followed the news and didn't read as much as say most of the informed people on our board do, then you probably wouldn't know what the hell to think.

[TheTravellers]

Agreed on the last point. I know a lot of attention has been thrown at the people who defiantly refuse to wear a mask, scream or spit at patrons/staff in stores, or just make a scene, but I think most people just want to do the right thing, no matter what walk of life or what side of the political spectrum they fall on.

The problem is the messaging has been so all over the place with differences in opinion between the health department, the CDC, the mayor, our governor, and our President. One day our governor is saying that yes this thing is still out there but we're doing ok and I think we're a long way away from needing to do a shutdown and then the next day, the health dept is recommending bars and restaurants to close again. One press conference, our governor is demonstrating to people to put on a mask so we'll be able to have the normal things in our lives that we want like college football and then there are pictures of him at Walmart and at a Vietnamese restaurant without a mask and even hugging people.

If you only casually followed the news and didn't read as much as say most of the informed people on our board do, then you probably wouldn't know what the hell to think.

Follow the science, not the idiots who deny science.

[jerrywall]

https://publicintegrity.org/health/c...zone-covid-19/

This is very interesting and I wish it was public. Looking at the section on Oklahoma, and the policy recommendations, it seems like there's a clear roadmap that the cities and the governor could follow if they chose. They've supposedly been sending them to the governors already.

[Pete]

Dozens of countries provided a great roadmap.

We knew what to do, just didn't do it.

[Ohwiseone]

Watching the news while i finishing up some work, and they mentioned that they already know of 2 "no" votes for the mask ordinance, and another that might another no vote.

I am not sure if it goes 6 -3 what the process is. ( I thought that they retable it and vote on it next week, or it doesn't go into effect until next month), but It might not go into effect immediately after tomorrows vote.

[Bill Robertson]

Tonight at 9:00, supposed to be 89 degrees and probably heat index of 95 or so. Nope.

I’m with ya.
But for those that would use it I could see 16th and maybe Paseo closing the streets. It’s been forever since I’ve been to the West End in Dallas or the restaurant district in Denver but I think I remember them having areas of streets closed.

[Bill Robertson]

I thought that was a big part of them closing down Deaconess. From what I've been told two floors there are still dedicated for Covid Surge flow.

Ok. I’ll give them that one.

[Libbymin]

Watching the news while i finishing up some work, and they mentioned that they already know of 2 "no" votes for the mask ordinance, and another that might another no vote.

I am not sure if it goes 6 -3 what the process is. ( I thought that they retable it and vote on it next week, or it doesn't go into effect until next month), but It might not go into effect immediately after tomorrows vote.

Didn't they say that the mask mandate wouldn't go into effect until mid August if it didn't get 7 votes?

[Pete]

If they don't get at least 7 votes, there would have to be a second reading of the ordinance at the next regular city council meeting, which would be in the middle of August.

Believe it can be implemented immediately thereafter.