Covid-19 in OKC (coronavirus)

[kukblue1]

It frustrates the hell out of me that we would wait to do a mask mandate until the numbers have already skyrocketed.

Pretty soon we'll get to the point where mask won't even work cuz we'll have so many cases. I'm looking at the past numbers on Saturday compared to today's numbers we are going to hit a thousand this week

[PoliSciGuy]

It frustrates the hell out of me that we would wait to do a mask mandate until the numbers have already skyrocketed.

Yeah I honestly don't know what our leaders are waiting for. This thing isn't going to magically get better anytime soon. We're on Texas/Arizona pace now.

[pw405]

Pretty soon we'll get to the point where math won't even work cuz we'll have so many cases. I'm looking at the past numbers on Saturday compared to today's numbers we are going to hit a thousand this week

Speaking of math... the author of the spreadsheet that showed OKC in Tulsa in the top 20 for week over week % increase also shared this, which was interesting(terrifying):



Somebody responded to that Tweet (asking for confirmation, using the same logic) that in two weeks, OK's weekly counts will jump up to 5,400 cases/week.
(760 cases, on average, for 7 days. Due to variability in testing, I would imagine we'll cross the 1,000 daily case mark on or before July 25th. (I hope I am wrong, and it doesn't happen)).

[Pete]

It frustrates the hell out of me that we would wait to do a mask mandate until the numbers have already skyrocketed.

IF it even passes in OKC and/or Tulsa

And even then, outside those city limits there are very few mandates.

This should be done on the state level and Stitt has said he isn't going to do it and you can bet he will not change his mind no matter what happens.

[RustytheBailiff]

IF it even passes in OKC and/or Tulsa

And even then, outside those city limits there are very few mandates.

This should be done on the state level and Stitt has said he isn't going to do it and you can bet he will not change his mind no matter what happens.

It should have been done on the national level months ago -- you know when we watch China, then Europe, then New York..but us Americans are a very foolish lot.....



STAY SAFE WEAR MASKS,

[Ronnie Jackson]

It should have been done on the national level months ago -- you know when we watch China, then Europe, then New York..but us Americans are a very foolish lot.....

No mechanism available on the national level.

That Pesky Constitution, always getting in the way.

[jdizzle]

IF it even passes in OKC and/or Tulsa

And even then, outside those city limits there are very few mandates.

This should be done on the state level and Stitt has said he isn't going to do it and you can bet he will not change his mind no matter what happens.

IF it passes in OKC, I feel the suburbs will follow. Probably the same in Tulsa.

[Pete]

IF it passes in OKC, I feel the suburbs will follow. Probably the same in Tulsa.

We'll see. Norman mayor and some council members now being targeted for recall over this issue.

[jdizzle]

We'll see. Norman mayor and some council members now being targeted for recall over this issue.

That is why Holt is hesitant to enact what this board wants.

[soonerguru]

I house your right. I’m also wondering. The mayor can make a mandate but wouldn’t anything done by the council be an actual ordinance. And would that make it more enforceable?

No. The mayor is just saying this as an excuse. On Twitter he said we are moving away from emergency proclamations. Mayor Bynum said something similar, which is galling. Without arguing their premise, they should at least make temporary proclamations until their councilors can vote on it.

The science on mask wearing is clear. There is no debate. And while we have hospital capacity now, we are close enough to the brink that waiting another week to do something seems reckless and weak.

To your question: a mayoral emergency proclamation is just as enforceable as an ordinance adopted by council.

[soonerguru]

We'll see. Norman mayor and some council members now being targeted for recall over this issue.

That will fail spectacularly. They won’t even get the signatures, let alone the votes. Those councilors and the mayor are popular.

Similar efforts against Holt or our councilors would also fail.

[dankrutka]

These anti-maskers are going to door to door in Norman. Lunacy.

[Jersey Boss]

TLO has a good read on the back ground of the two that are behind this. One of them is a real homophobe.

Angry Normanites Fight To Take Back Town That's Passing Them By... – The Lost Ogle
https://www.thelostogle.com/2020/07/...ssing-them-by/

[Bunty]

These anti-maskers are going to door to door in Norman. Lunacy.

They better wait to see if they have a case. If positive cases are well down a month or two from now, they don't have a case against masks.

[Pete]

That will fail spectacularly. They won’t even get the signatures, let alone the votes. Those councilors and the mayor are popular.

Similar efforts against Holt or our councilors would also fail.

Yes, I'm sure you are correct.

[pw405]

If some anti-masker comes to my door requesting signatures, legally speaking, can I spray them with pepper spray?

[Ronnie Jackson]

If some anti-masker comes to my door requesting signatures, legally speaking, can I spray them with pepper spray?

Oh man, that’s an expensive idea.

[soonerguru]

If some anti-masker comes to my door requesting signatures, legally speaking, can I spray them with pepper spray?

Lol right now thinking of those nitwits knocking doors for that quixotic effort. If you have never knocked before, it’s easy to do for a couple of days or so, but after that it takes extreme commitment to keep going. Especially in this heat. And, people are literally going to be yelling for them to GTFO. Doors slammed in their faces. People infuriated that these mask-less morons even have the gall to knock their door.

This will be a hilarious fail.

[Bill Robertson]

I hope you have not caught the virus, if you have, my prayers go out to you with the hope of a speedy recovery.



STAY SAFE WEAR MASKS

I posted the whole story a number of pages ago. In a nutshell I had very minor symptoms in mid-March. Some of which weren’t listed yet as being COVID symptoms yet so I wondered but didn’t worry about it much. Then in late May I donated blood and got a call that I tested positive for antibodies. Their test isn’t the FDA approved one though. I had a second FDA approved test and it was positive also. I then got a call asking me to be listed on a register of recovered cases and to donate plasma, which I did and will continue to do as long as they say my antibodies are still high enough.

[kukblue1]

Too many anti-maskers out there for a mandate to work. You want the numbers to go down you want to get things under country. You shut thing down for 4 weeks. It will never happen but that is the only way we get this under control unless the virus keeps mutating and kills its self somehow.

[TheTravellers]

[Bill Robertson]

Too many anti-maskers out there for a mandate to work. You want the numbers to go down you want to get things under country. You shut thing down for 4 weeks. It will never happen but that is the only way we get this under control unless the virus keeps mutating and kills its self somehow.

I would hope that the anti-maskers are a minority and that a mandate or ordinance would prompt most to wear masks. Plus maybe limiting group sizes and restaurant capacity again. Basically Phase 2 indefinitely. What makes you think a 4 week shut down would accomplish anything the first 4 or so week shut down didn’t. Why wouldn’t the same thing happen again when reopening from the second shut down?

[king183]

The situation we are experiencing in Oklahoma is largely due to a governor who has no interest in making public health a priority. His lack of seriousness in prioritizing public health is evident by the people he initially appointed to positions of importance. His first Secretary of Health, for example, was an oilman who had no experience in health or public health and struggled from the beginning. Much time was lost as that person tried to learn—unsuccessfully—on the job. It’s an open secret among those closest to the pandemic response that they have little direction or support from the top because the governor finds the response efforts to be tedious and distracting from his other priorities. We won’t make progress until he takes the pandemic seriously or we get leadership who does.

[Edmond Hausfrau]

I posted the whole story a number of pages ago. In a nutshell I had very minor symptoms in mid-March. Some of which weren’t listed yet as being COVID symptoms yet so I wondered but didn’t worry about it much. Then in late May I donated blood and got a call that I tested positive for antibodies. Their test isn’t the FDA approved one though. I had a second FDA approved test and it was positive also. I then got a call asking me to be listed on a register of recovered cases and to donate plasma, which I did and will continue to do as long as they say my antibodies are still high enough.

Bill, thank you so much for donating your plasma. It can be a long and tedious process, but your willingness will help to move the science forward.
From the bottom of my heart, thank you what you are giving us.

[Edmond Hausfrau]

The situation we are experiencing in Oklahoma is largely due to a governor who has no interest in making public health a priority. His lack of seriousness in prioritizing public health is evident by the people he initially appointed to positions of importance. His first Secretary of Health, for example, was an oilman who had no experience in health or public health and struggled from the beginning. Much time was lost as that person tried to learn—unsuccessfully—on the job. It’s an open secret among those closest to the pandemic response that they have little direction or support from the top because the governor finds the response efforts to be tedious and distracting from his other priorities. We won’t make progress until he takes the pandemic seriously or we get leadership who does.

As a business leader I thought he might have cared about Oklahomans basically getting travel bans (14-day quarantines). Maybe he presumes everyone has time and $$ to wait 2 weeks in NY before heading out the door. Pretty soon no other states will want us.