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    I know this is a month old, but I personally know of 3 people this has happened to. So, I guess I'm posting this as more of a warning.

    https://www.sciencedaily.com/release...0610094112.htm

    Using RT-PCR test results, along with reported time of exposure to the virus or time of onset of measurable symptoms such as fever, cough and breathing problems, the researchers calculated the probability that someone infected with SARS-CoV-2 would have a negative test result when they had the virus infection. In the published studies, health care providers collected nasal and throat samples -from patients and noted the time of virus exposure or symptom -onset and sample collection.

    From this data, the Johns Hopkins researchers calculated daily false-negative rates, and have made their statistical code and data publicly available so results can be updated as more data are published.

    The researchers estimated that those tested with SARS-CoV-2 in the four days after infection were 67% more likely to test negative, even if they had the virus. When the average patient began displaying symptoms of the virus, the false-negative rate was 38%. The test performed best eight days after infection (on average, three days after symptom onset), but even then had a false negative rate of 20%, meaning one in five people who had the virus had a negative test result.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jdizzle View Post
    Is Oklahoma in a state of emergency (Well, OKC)? Who would declare that? I thpught the state removed that declaration, but could be wrong.
    The MAYOR declares the state of emergency.

    He did this back in March when he started issuing edicts about business shutdowns and the like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete View Post
    Holt issued all types of unilateral edicts regarding the Covid-19 situation (complete shutdown and reopening of businesses, curfews) but is now passing the buck to City Council on the mask issue claiming he is only "1 vote of 9". Certainly his prerogative but a purely political move to deflect heat regardless of what is decided.

    He said during his last press conference that his emergency powers were expiring and that the council was going to have to take over decision making.

  4. #4554

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheTravellers View Post
    Agreed, I'm not advocating for a shutdown, just everybody wearing masks, that's probably literally all it would take to keep things going and the infections to go down.
    Yes!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete View Post
    What does that "trajectory" percent reflect?

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    Has the DHS's website removed the ability to see bed availability by facility?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jerrywall View Post
    What does that "trajectory" percent reflect?
    New Cases This Week vs. New Cases Last Week

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Robertson View Post
    He said during his last press conference that his emergency powers were expiring and that the council was going to have to take over decision making.
    He's letting them expire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete View Post
    New Cases This Week vs. New Cases Last Week
    Thanks! I figured it was something like that, but the number was too high for day to day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete View Post
    He's letting them expire.
    True. But maybe the council will grow some???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete View Post
    He's letting them expire.
    On 7/17, I believe, hence the emergency council meeting on 7/16.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete View Post
    Holt issued all types of unilateral edicts regarding the Covid-19 situation (complete shutdown and reopening of businesses, curfews) but is now passing the buck to City Council on the mask issue claiming he is only "1 vote of 9". Certainly his prerogative but a purely political move to deflect heat regardless of what is decided.

    He's waiting six more days before any potential action? Ridiculous and embarrassing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David View Post
    He's waiting six more days before any potential action? Ridiculous and embarrassing.
    More than 6.

    The agenda for next Thursday's meeting says at the top: NO ACTIONS WILL BE TAKEN

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete View Post
    More than 6.

    The agenda for next Thursday's meeting says at the top: NO ACTIONS WILL BE TAKEN
    Am I the only one that watch Stitt yesterday. Everything is fine. We are code Yellow meaning a low risk. We are like only 34 out of 50 states. No need to worry. What a piece of crap. Sorry probably should be in the Political board but I'm tired of our leaders not stepping up admitting they were wrong and doing something to correct it. We were locked down in April and the numbers were not nearly as bad as they are now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kukblue1 View Post
    Am I the only one that watch Stitt yesterday. Everything is fine. We are code Yellow meaning a low risk. We are like only 34 out of 50 states. No need to worry. What a piece of crap. Sorry probably should be in the Political board but I'm tired of our leaders not stepping up admitting they were wrong and doing something to correct it. We were locked down in April and the numbers were not nearly as bad as they are now.
    If your going to make a point have correct data. Hospitalizations, the thing that we were told was the determining factor were higher in early April than now. Deaths are a lot lower now. Only new cases are higher. Just check the epidemiology reports. I agree that we need to do something serious to slow this crap down but using inaccurate data doesn’t help the case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete View Post
    Holt issued all types of unilateral edicts regarding the Covid-19 situation (complete shutdown and reopening of businesses, curfews) but is now passing the buck to City Council on the mask issue claiming he is only "1 vote of 9". Certainly his prerogative but a purely political move to deflect heat regardless of what is decided.
    I've heard that he is hesitant to make decisions that might be controversial or unpopular because he has to worry about being re-elected. He wants the council to help shoulder the responsibility/blame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by catcherinthewry View Post
    I've heard that he is hesitant to make decisions that might be controversial or unpopular because he has to worry about being re-elected. He wants the council to help shoulder the responsibility/blame.
    I’m glad I’m not an elected official. I probably wouldn’t last long. I believe in doing what’s needed to fix problem no matter who doesn’t like it. I guess I’m lucky that I’ve always had positions where that was considered a good quality by my superiors. Except for one management position where I ended up being expected to be a clone of the owner. I wasn’t there long.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Robertson View Post
    If your going to make a point have correct data. Hospitalizations, the thing that we were told was the determining factor were higher in early April than now. Deaths are a lot lower now. Only new cases are higher. Just check the epidemiology reports. I agree that we need to do something serious to slow this crap down but using inaccurate data doesn’t help the case.
    First you get it, then you go to the hospital, then you die.

    While cases are up, hospitalizations and deaths have been lagging. It would seem that the cause of this is that on average it is the under 35 crowd that first sprung from the lockdowns. Us old folk were glad just to go to the hardware store while they assembled at bars and restaurants. Consequently, the average age of Covid patients has dropped. I could not find stats for Oklahoma, but the median age of new COVID-19 cases in Florida fell from 65 in March to 35 in June. Younger patients often have milder cases, hence the drop in hospitalizations and deaths. Unfortunately, the spread of the disease remains unabated and it is likely that the younger generations have been feeling decent while infected and passed the infection on to their parents...


    STAY SAFE WEAR MASKS

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    Quote Originally Posted by RustytheBailiff View Post
    First you get it, then you go to the hospital, then you die.

    While cases are up, hospitalizations and deaths have been lagging. It would seem that the cause of this is that on average it is the under 35 crowd that first sprung from the lockdowns. Us old folk were glad just to go to the hardware store while they assembled at bars and restaurants. Consequently, the average age of Covid patients has dropped. I could not find stats for Oklahoma, but the median age of new COVID-19 cases in Florida fell from 65 in March to 35 in June. Younger patients often have milder cases, hence the drop in hospitalizations and deaths. Unfortunately, the spread of the disease remains unabated and it is likely that the younger generations have been feeling decent while infected and passed the infection on to their parents...


    STAY SAFE WEAR MASKS
    My reply was very fitting to what I was replying to. There is a very valid point to be made for new case numbers being horrible, equating to spread, but to say ‘“numbers” are worse than early April is just not accurate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete View Post
    More than 6.

    The agenda for next Thursday's meeting says at the top: NO ACTIONS WILL BE TAKEN
    As David said, ridiculous and embarrassing, but I will also add - deadly. Why are they holding an "emergency" meeting, then? And why did we elect new, progressive, forward-thinking members if it's going to be "Meet the new boss, same as the old boss"? If this is too political, move it to the political thread, please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheTravellers View Post
    As David said, ridiculous and embarrassing, but I will also add - deadly. Why are they holding an "emergency" meeting, then? And why did we elect new, progressive, forward-thinking members if it's going to be "Meet the new boss, same as the old boss"? If this is too political, move it to the political thread, please.
    At the risk of making light of a serious comment. That’s an excellent song.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Robertson View Post
    At the risk of making light of a serious comment. That’s an excellent song.
    Yes, it is, but sadly we *are* getting fooled again and again and again and again. The funky organ is my favorite part...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Robertson View Post
    If your going to make a point have correct data. Hospitalizations, the thing that we were told was the determining factor were higher in early April than now. Deaths are a lot lower now. Only new cases are higher. Just check the epidemiology reports. I agree that we need to do something serious to slow this crap down but using inaccurate data doesn’t help the case.
    Hate to burst your bubble but 499 in the hospital is now 3rd highest total we ever have had. Half are in the ICU. Add recorded number of cases the numbers are going to keep going up. We will soon have more in the hospital then any other time before. Deaths are slowing rising too. We are past the mask stage we need to be back down to phase 1

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    As Colorado's numbers are now inching up, the Governor of Colorado chastised those who refuse to wear masks, yesterday, by insisting "Just wear a damn mask!" I loved it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by catcherinthewry View Post
    I've heard that he is hesitant to make decisions that might be controversial or unpopular because he has to worry about being re-elected. He wants the council to help shoulder the responsibility/blame.
    I'm no politician either, but shouldn't there be some cover with " I rely on my advisors. I'm a mayor, not a military general, not a scientist. When a situation arises in those arenas, I confer with those experts, and as a leader, it's my job to disseminate that information and follow the guidance of the experts in the field."
    Or something close to that.

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