Covid-19 in OKC (coronavirus)

[Bill Robertson]

This is the county heat map:

I’m not understanding something. Nothing new there. But the morning news today had the criteria for the color code. One item is the percentage of ICU beds available. If the story from a couple days ago is accurate it seems to me that at least a few counties should be red. What am I getting wrong?

[PoliSciGuy]

You really need to stay home. I’m worried you’re to at risk. Mowing and taking care acreage is not worth sacrificing your life. Stay home

This has it backwards. If you’re scared of wearing a mask, stay home, don’t get other people infected. Simple as that.

[jerrywall]

I can somewhat empathize with the "but my freedoms" folks. To be honest, the thought of mask mandates is pretty chilling and goes against just about every fiber of my being, except that these are extraordinary circumstances that requires extraordinary sacrifices. But I can at least empathize with that point of view because in general I share it. The government conspiracy, anti-5G, anti Bill Gates, anti Vaccine, "they're gonna send you to FEMA camps and implant you with chips" crowd, on the other hand? They're just flat out crazy.

[Pete]

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The thing is, several of my friends shared that craziness with lots of people 'liking' the post.

And these are educated, professional people albeit around my age, which is 60.

[pw405]

This is making the rounds on social media; there is now a full-on anti-masker movement with lots of people also saying they won't take the vaccine:

Oh god... I hate to even requote this post, but I have seen it too, and I've seen attached to various images. IMHO, this feels like textbook Russian Troll misinformation campaign. Everytime I see this stuff, I report the post by the person sharing it as fake news, then I go to the original account that posted it and report the ever-living-s*it out of everything I find that is incorrect. They do NOT appear to be real accounts. Guessing they are either old, inactive accounts that have been compromised, or some people just like to share 20-40 crappy memes/day that all push an idiotic agenda. I feel like Facebook has become FAR too complacent in their role in spreading dangerous misinformation.

[BoulderSooner]

This is making the rounds on social media; there is now a full-on anti-masker movement with lots of people also saying they won't take the vaccine:

there is pretty much 0% chance i would let any of my family take a vaccine that comes out in the next year (very unlikely there will be a vaccine this year and maybe not ever)

I am not anti vaccine at all but ...

a normal vaccine timeline is 4+ years this is for testing and all kinds of other safety measures ...

[Bill Robertson]

Just left the south Lowe’s. Employees wearing masks but probably 25% either not all the way or all the way down around their chin. Maybe 10% of customers and that’s being generous.

[Pete]

there is pretty much 0% chance i would let any of my family take a vaccine that comes out in the next year (very unlikely there will be a vaccine this year and maybe not ever)

I am not anti vaccine at all but ...

a normal vaccine timeline is 4+ years this is for testing and all kinds of other safety measures ...

Any widely available vaccine would have to pass the same rigorous testing as any other.

[jdizzle]

I have gotten the flu vaccine 1 time. Guess how many times I have had the flu? 1.

I won't take any super rushed vaccine for this virus. I will wait until the first wave of vaccine people get it, and see the effects. I am not being selfish, I just think that people will get the vaccine and think all is well again, which is dangerous, when dealing with vaccines for viruses.

[Pete]

We already have anti-vaxxers when there isn't even a vaccine yet.

[sooner88]

Here's another Facebook post that has been reposted by educated people I know who are in their 30s, with several comments from their friends agreeing. Blows my mind.

PLEASE READ THIS IF YOU WEAR A MASK!!!

So Masks?
I am OSHA 10 & 30 certified. I know some of you are too. I don’t really know WHY OSHA hasn’t come forward and stopped the nonsense BUT I wanna cover 3 things • N95 masks and masks with exhale ports • surgical masks • filter or cloth masks

Okay so upon further inspection OSHA says some masks are okay and not okay in certain situations.
If you’re working with fumes and aerosol chemicals and you give your employees the wrong masks and they get sick you can be sued.
• N95 masks: are designed for CONTAMINATED environments. That means when you exhale through N95 the design is that you are exhaling into contamination. The exhale from N95 masks are vented to breath straight out without filtration. They don’t filter the air on the way out. They don’t need to.
Conclusion: if you’re in Stewart’s and the guy with Covid has N95 mask his covid breath is unfiltered being exhaled into Stewart’s (because it was designed for already contaminated environments, it’s not filtering your air on the way out)

• Surgical Mask: these masks were designed and approved for STERILE environments. The amount of particles and contaminants in the outside and indoor environments where people are CLOGG these masks very Very quickly. The moisture from your breath combined with the clogged mask with render it “useless” IF you come in contact with Covid and your mask traps it You become a walking virus dispenser. Everytime you put your mask on you are breathing the germs from EVERYWHERE you went. They should be changed or thrown out every “20-30 minutes in a non sterile environment”

Cloth masks: today three people pointed to their masks as the walked by me entering Lowe’s. They said “ya gotta wear your mask BRO” I said very clearly “those masks don’t work bro, in fact they MAKE you sicker” the “pshh’d” me.

By now hopefully you all know CLOTH masks do not filter anything. You mean the American flag one my aunt made? Yes. The one with sunflowers that looks so cute? Yes. The bandanna, the cut up t-shirt, the scarf ALL of them offer NO FILTERING whatsoever. As you exhale you are ridding your lungs of contaminants and carbon dioxide. Cloth masks trap this carbon dioxide the best. It actually risks health. The moisture caught in these masks can become mildew ridden over night. Dry coughing, enhanced allergies, sore throat are all symptoms of a micro-mold in your mask.

Ultimate Answer: N95 blows the virus into the air from a contaminated person.

The surgical mask is not designed for the outside world and will not filter the virus upon inhaling through it. It’s filtration works on the exhale. (Like a vacuum bag it only works one way)

Cloth masks are WORSE than none.

The CDC wants us to keep wearing masks. The masks don’t work.

Wash your hands. Sanitize your hands. Don’t touch stuff. Wash your phone. Don’t touch people. And keep your distance. Why? Because your breath stinks, your deodorant is failing, your shoes are old and stink, that shirts not clean, I like my space. Trust me I can hear you from here. Lots of reasons. But trust me. The masks do not work.
*Occupational Safety & Health Administration sited.
The top American organization for safety.
They regulate and educate asbestos workers, surgical rooms, you name it.
If your mask gives you security wear it, just know it is a false sense of security.

If stores stopped enforcing it no one would continue this nonsense.

[Pete]

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You have to believe that a lot of this nonsense starts with Russian disinformation bots to continue to sow seeds of discontent and division in our country, which only benefits them.

[oklip955]

This has it backwards. If you’re scared of wearing a mask, stay home, don’t get other people infected. Simple as that.

I wear a mask every time I live my place and I social distance. The problem is so many people do not and I am contantly trying to avoid people who don't in the stores. I have a bad knee so it does make it hard.

[OKCretro]

. I feel like Facebook has become FAR too complacent in their role in spreading dangerous misinformation.

I would say "social media as a whole" has become FAR too complacent in their role in spreading dangerous misinformation.


I have also noticed several of my follows on instagram post a bunch of "wear your mask" memes and then the next post have a picture of them and their friends out a bar sans mask with the post "celebrating So and so's 34th bday!"

[BoulderSooner]

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You have to believe that a lot of this nonsense starts with Russian disinformation bots to continue to sow seeds of discontent and division in our country, which only benefits them.

or GMA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdqU5ptG2yY



https://www.goodmorningamerica.com/n...masks-71251861

[Canoe]

Oh god... I hate to even requote this post, but I have seen it too, and I've seen attached to various images. IMHO, this feels like textbook Russian Troll misinformation campaign. Everytime I see this stuff, I report the post by the person sharing it as fake news, then I go to the original account that posted it and report the ever-living-s*it out of everything I find that is incorrect. They do NOT appear to be real accounts. Guessing they are either old, inactive accounts that have been compromised, or some people just like to share 20-40 crappy memes/day that all push an idiotic agenda. I feel like Facebook has become FAR too complacent in their role in spreading dangerous misinformation.

Is Facebook a publisher or platform?

[Pete]

Is Facebook a publisher or platform?

Regardless, there are still obligations when it comes to spreading disinformation.

[TheTravellers]

I have gotten the flu vaccine 1 time. Guess how many times I have had the flu? 1.

I won't take any super rushed vaccine for this virus. I will wait until the first wave of vaccine people get it, and see the effects. I am not being selfish, I just think that people will get the vaccine and think all is well again, which is dangerous, when dealing with vaccines for viruses.

Flu vaccines DO NOT DO NOT DO NOT DO NOT give you the flu.

Read these (really, READ them):

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/prevent/misconceptions.htm

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-...s/art-20048000

https://www.webmd.com/cold-and-flu/q...-cause-the-flu

https://www.livescience.com/40279-fl...formation.html

https://www.gohealthuc.com/library/c...-make-you-sick

https://www.health.harvard.edu/disea...s/10-flu-myths

https://www.menshealth.com/health/a1...-side-effects/

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/326810

https://www.verywellhealth.com/why-d...lu-shot-770535

https://www.vaccines.gov/diseases/flu

[PoliSciGuy]

or GMA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdqU5ptG2yY



https://www.goodmorningamerica.com/n...masks-71251861

That first GMA video is from February. A *lot* has changed in our understanding of the virus since then. Please stop spreading misinformation.

[jdizzle]

Flu vaccines DO NOT DO NOT DO NOT DO NOT give you the flu.

Read these (really, READ them):

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/prevent/misconceptions.htm

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-...s/art-20048000

https://www.webmd.com/cold-and-flu/q...-cause-the-flu

https://www.livescience.com/40279-fl...formation.html

https://www.gohealthuc.com/library/c...-make-you-sick

https://www.health.harvard.edu/disea...s/10-flu-myths

https://www.menshealth.com/health/a1...-side-effects/

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/326810

https://www.verywellhealth.com/why-d...lu-shot-770535

https://www.vaccines.gov/diseases/flu

If not, then I have terrible luck. Again, I will NOT take a super rushed vaccine for anything. There are promises of a vaccine in less than 9 months since inception. Forget that. Some can take decades. For a virus with so many unknowns (this thread states as much), how can a vaccine be created in 8 months?

[BoulderSooner]

That first GMA video is from February. A *lot* has changed in our understanding of the virus since then. Please stop spreading misinformation.

i was not spreading misinformation i was pointing out that the "misinformation" is not only from "russian bots"

and the doctor in that video is still a doctor right???

the point is people are still posting and sharing that video ..

[Pete]

If not, then I have terrible luck. Again, I will NOT take a super rushed vaccine for anything. There are promises of a vaccine in less than 9 months since inception. Forget that. Some can take decades. For a virus with so many unknowns (this thread states as much), how can a vaccine be created in 8 months?

As already stated, any widely approved vaccine would have to follow the same testing as any other.

It's being developed quickly because the U.S. and other countries are pouring in billions and there are billions to be made on behalf of the pharmaceutical companies.

[Ronnie Jackson]

or GMA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdqU5ptG2yY
https://www.goodmorningamerica.com/n...masks-71251861

“Make sure you’re wearing, not just a mask but a mask we like, God Damnit!”

-California

[FighttheGoodFight]

As already stated, any widely approved vaccine would have to follow the same testing as any other.

It's being developed quickly because the U.S. and other countries are pouring in billions and there are billions to be made on behalf of the pharmaceutical companies.

Not to mention that the Oxford vaccine was already being developed for SARS1/MERS and they just pivoted to Covid19. That is why they are already in Phase III when others are in Phase II.

[Canoe]

Regardless, there are still obligations when it comes to spreading disinformation.

Pete, I know you know the difference, but I am not sure the general public knows about it. It is an important topic. However, it is off topic for the thread so I will not advance the discussion.