Covid-19 in OKC (coronavirus)

[soonerguru]

But OKC has more cases than Tulsa. What's kicking in for OKC?

Tulsa has more cases and has for several days in a row.

[Pete]

Tulsa has more cases and has for several days in a row.

Read upthread where I posted the exact #'s from the state.

[soonerguru]

It's is so disappointing when a poster offers an opinion—in this case a plausible one—and someone else comes in and shoots it down as lacking "evidence" and provides... [wait for it]... zero evidence or explanation to support their stance.

Of course, there is a lot of evidence that COVID-19 spreads much more indoors (a recent study suggests 20 times more inside than outside) and if more people are spending time inside that it's possible that could result in more spread. Of course, this depends also on how much intermixing, mask wearing, and other factors there is...

A side point on discourse is that C_M_25 actually offered a worthwhile contribution to this board with their post while soonerguru offered nothing of substance.

I guess I owe C_M an apology. I must have misread his post. I will move my trigger finger away. Please excuse me for overreacting. There are at least five people here who constantly gaslight with outmoded and / or totally discredited information to the point that it is exhausting. C—M is not one of them.

My overreaction was fueled by the fact that our cases seem to spike regardless of weather so suggesting they may go down based on any change in seasonality has not been supported by the facts on the ground.

[brian72]

$400 is too light. I think $1,000 at the minimum. Then If they don't pay, round them up with their family and put them in some sorta camp. That'll slow the spread for sure. They can make mask and Hand sanitizer while there.

[Bill Robertson]

No, this was not an assumption by experts. It was a proposed hypothesis from some, but most experts I paid attention to said they did not think the virus would be seasonal.

Taking a hypothesis by some and changing it into an assumption by all is really dangerous because it undermines the hard work experts have been doing to inform the public.

assumption: a thing that is accepted as true or as certain to happen, without proof

I didn’t say it was an assumption by experts. It was, by the above definition, an assumption made by many people because they accepted it as something that was definitely going to happen. Without any real proof.

[soonerguru]

Read upthread where I posted the exact #'s from the state.

Thank you. I think it is more relevant to post the two county stats, as you did.

[Pete]

It seems there was a misguided hope that warmer temps would somehow mitigate the spread of the virus.

But the simple truth is the surge in new cases is completely correlated with reopening of places like gyms, bars and churches.

So, of course, more people are going to be together inside and that doesn't have anything to do with the weather, hot or cold or in between.

[soonerguru]

It seems there was a misguided hope that warmer temps would somehow mitigate the spread of the virus.

But the simple truth is the surge in new cases is completely correlated with reopening of places like gyms, bars and churches.

So, of course, more people are going to be together inside and that doesn't have anything to do with the weather, hot or cold or in between.

This is what I was trying to say, which Pete said better. I didn’t mean to be harsh to C_M at all. Sorry, Dan, and more importantly, C_M.

[Bill Robertson]

We won't have a choice to shut things down if we have no more hospitals beds. I was just going to comment on those council meetings. There are too many anti mask people out there. A mask mandate isn't going to work. I think we have already proven that in the 5 short days Oklahoma City has had it in place for restaurant and bars. Many people still reporting people not wearing mask. Those council meetings unfortunately proved people won't wear mask. I guess they would rather be out of jobs? I don't know but what i do know is when people no longer can get into a hospital there is going to be major issues.

If I remember right I heard Stitt say specifically last week that he won’t shut things down again. So just as a matter of pride or whatever the right word might be I don’t think he will unless it gets pretty cold in hell.

[jerrywall]

But the simple truth is the surge in new cases is completely correlated with reopening of places like gyms, bars and churches.

Obviously that's what is driving a large part (if not most) of the curve, but I also think tourism shouldn't be underestimated. Looking at the breakdown by county, once you get past Oklahoma, Tulsa and Cleveland counties a large amount of the cases look to be in NE Oklahoma around the Grand Lake, Illinois River areas, if I'm reading the data correctly.

[Libbymin]

It seems there was a misguided hope that warmer temps would somehow mitigate the spread of the virus.

But the simple truth is the surge in new cases is completely correlated with reopening of places like gyms, bars and churches.

So, of course, more people are going to be together inside and that doesn't have anything to do with the weather, hot or cold or in between.

I've driven past Vasa Fitness several times in the past few weeks and that parking lot has been near full most of the time. With a bunch of people breathing hard in an indoor space, what could go wrong?

[Bill Robertson]

I just saw an ad for the Southwest Street Rod Nationals which they are still going to have this weekend. I just don’t get it. This will be the first Nationals I’ve ever not gone to but I won’t be there. There are much more important things right now than a bunch of sweet hot rods. I bet there will not be a good percentage of mask wearing either.

[OKCretro]

Based on what? Specifically, what did Cuomo do that relates to the OKC situation? If you are comparing the NYC situation to Oklahoma then you have probably never been to NYC. But please tell us the decisions up there and how it justifies our inaction here? Educate us with FACTs please.

Sending Recovering Covid patients back to nursing homes. I am glad Stitt did not follow this. Aren't you?

https://www.wsj.com/articles/new-yor...or-11589470773

[jerrywall]

I just saw an ad for the Southwest Street Rod Nationals which they are still going to have this weekend. I just don’t get it. This will be the first Nationals I’ve ever not gone to but I won’t be there. There are much more important things right now than a bunch of sweet hot rods. I bet there will not be a good percentage of mask wearing either.

As far as I know that Tattoo convention is still happening at the Cox Convention Center this weekend. I know they're requiring masks but even then I don't see how ANYONE thinks this is a good idea.

[oklip955]

Cases in Edmond jumped up 46 from yesterday. I have been tracking Edmond. Seeing big jumps instead of a few.

[oklip955]

I'm just wondering how public schools will be able to reopen. I saw Okcps plan but what about other area schools. What if the number of cases keeps climbing? I don't have any kids but if kids come home sick and spread it through their household, it effects all of us one way or another.

[Bill Robertson]

I'm just wondering how public schools will be able to reopen. I saw Okcps plan but what about other area schools. What if the number of cases keeps climbing? I don't have any kids but if kids come home sick and spread it through their household, it effects all of us one way or another.

I just saw an article that Florida ruled that schools HAVE to open for fall semester. And their governor says they’re doing fine. So at least we’re not the only ones with leaders that have their heads stuck in the sand.

[Libbymin]

Didn't Edmond say they were going to have teachers, staff, and middle/high school students wear a mask?

[OKCretro]

I'm just wondering how public schools will be able to reopen. I saw Okcps plan but what about other area schools. What if the number of cases keeps climbing? I don't have any kids but if kids come home sick and spread it through their household, it effects all of us one way or another.

In oklahoma, not one child has died from Covid as of July 2. i believe the youngest person to pass is between 15-24, and on another page it says the youngest person to pass was 22 years old.

https://coronavirus.health.ok.gov/si...t_-_7-6-20.pdf

[Bill Robertson]

I think at this point, best case is college football in the spring.

There’s a petition, signed by 1300 including 342 staff and faculty basically asking OU to have as much remote functions as possible. If there isn’t much of a on campus presence of regular school activities then I bet there won’t be football.

[Jersey Boss]

In oklahoma, not one child has died from Covid as of July 2. i believe the youngest person to pass is between 15-24, and on another page it says the youngest person to pass was 22 years old.

https://coronavirus.health.ok.gov/si...t_-_7-6-20.pdf

How many hospitalized? Incapacitated? There is a huge gap between healthy and death.

[runOKC]

In oklahoma, not one child has died from Covid as of July 2. i believe the youngest person to pass is between 15-24, and on another page it says the youngest person to pass was 22 years old.

https://coronavirus.health.ok.gov/si...t_-_7-6-20.pdf

Hundreds of adults congregate in schools every day. Teachers, staff, parents, etc.

[Rover]

In oklahoma, not one child has died from Covid as of July 2. i believe the youngest person to pass is between 15-24, and on another page it says the youngest person to pass was 22 years old.

https://coronavirus.health.ok.gov/si...t_-_7-6-20.pdf

So, in the US there have been approximately 5% of all verified cases which end in death. Another percentage which will have temporary or long term health issues as a result of having it. Now they think there is damage in many who have no OUTWARD sign of having the virus. But you seem to be saying that because kids don't DIE from it, then all is okay, even if they spread it to others who eventually do DIE. Is that what you are indicating or am I misreading?

[jccouger]

In oklahoma, not one child has died from Covid as of July 2. i believe the youngest person to pass is between 15-24, and on another page it says the youngest person to pass was 22 years old.

https://coronavirus.health.ok.gov/si...t_-_7-6-20.pdf

I'm worried about the long term effects this will have on childrens health. Of course, there may be nothing to worry about but the lack of anything concrete is concerning as a parent.

Also of course, if a kid catches it so will their parents & probably their grandparents. Kids have a very relaxed sense of hygiene so schools are going to absolutely explode with spread.

[jerrywall]

My mother is in her mid 60s and just a couple of years from retirement as a teacher. It's great that kids haven't been dying (yet), but I'd rather my mother not die. I wish she was in a place to go ahead and retire now to avoid the risks this fall.