Covid-19 in OKC (coronavirus)

[jerrywall]

No, they are not included, according to the director of the Save Our State page last night.

I believe that was in reference to the antibody tests, not the rapid tests. Or are they the same?

[Rover]

Since you bring up NY, i am glad Oklahoma didnt mimic every mandate that Cuomo made. If Oklahoma did we would already have many more deaths.

Based on what? Specifically, what did Cuomo do that relates to the OKC situation? If you are comparing the NYC situation to Oklahoma then you have probably never been to NYC. But please tell us the decisions up there and how it justifies our inaction here? Educate us with FACTs please.

[C_M_25]

Just read that integris is running out of space, and they are opening an over-flow location. That same article also referenced diminishing ppe again.

We're screwed if there isn't another lockdown put into place.

[AP]

This is not great.

https://mobile.twitter.com/kocodillo...990043648?s=21

[OKCretro]

Just read that integris is running out of space, and they are opening an over-flow location. That same article also referenced diminishing ppe again.

We're screwed if there isn't another lockdown put into place.

Has Integris stopped elective surgeries at all locations or did the article mention this?

[PoliSciGuy]

Elective surgeries need to be stopped, municipalities need to enact face mask requirements. We’re in the early stages of this but it’s pretty clear the next 6 weeks are gonna suck, and that’s before things get bad in the fall.

[Bill Robertson]

I believe that was in reference to the antibody tests, not the rapid tests. Or are they the same?

They aren’t the same. But it was verified a number of pages ago that quick tests are not on the daily numbers. So the numbers reported are probably low. Then there’s this from June 24:

"Our best estimate right now is that for every case that's reported, there actually are 10 other infections," Dr. Robert Redfield, director of the CDC, said on a call with reporters Thursday”.

So there’s a lot of people out there spreading this virus. It’s very scary.

[Bill Robertson]

Elective surgeries need to be stopped, municipalities need to enact face mask requirements. We’re in the early stages of this but it’s pretty clear the next 6 weeks are gonna suck, and that’s before things get bad in the fall.

Wasn’t the assumption that it would get worse again in the fall based on the assumption that it would back off some during the summer. Which it hasn’t. Just one more thing about this damn virus that we just don’t know.

[oklip955]

And shopping at Aldi's and no one is social distancing. Seems like people are thinking all is normal.

[C_M_25]

Wasn’t the assumption that it would get worse again in the fall based on the assumption that it would back off some during the summer. Which it hasn’t. Just one more thing about this damn virus that we just don’t know.

This will probably work out quite the opposite. Heat and cold temps drive people indoors, so we'll probably see spikes in the summer and winter. I bet it backs off in the fall and spring when people get back outdoors.

[Pete]

But it hasn't been that hot yet, so I'm not sure I buy the "everyone's inside" argument.

And if that is true, the next few weeks will get a lot worse.

[soonerguru]

Based on what? Specifically, what did Cuomo do that relates to the OKC situation? If you are comparing the NYC situation to Oklahoma then you have probably never been to NYC. But please tell us the decisions up there and how it justifies our inaction here? Educate us with FACTs please.

He was just making a drive-by troll post. If Cuomo did anything wrong it was waiting too long to take action. Everything since has been effective and it is laughable that the troller thinks Oklahoma has done better.

[jdizzle]

Elective surgeries need to be stopped, municipalities need to enact face mask requirements. We’re in the early stages of this but it’s pretty clear the next 6 weeks are gonna suck, and that’s before things get bad in the fall.

The absolute last thing this state and country needs is for more hospitals to shut down. The initial halt of elective procedures caused more financial burden on hospitals than the virus has. This state already has hospitals on the brink of closing.

[soonerguru]

This will probably work out quite the opposite. Heat and cold temps drive people indoors, so we'll probably see spikes in the summer and winter. I bet it backs off in the fall and spring when people get back outdoors.

Zero facts or evidence support this.

[kukblue1]

With a pretty much known positivity rate and pretty much known number of tests conducted over the past couple days today’s number, and high numbers for the foreseeable future, have to be expected. And the three cities that had council meetings last night had to know this and did nothing. I really don’t think we’ll ever see a shut down. I’m skeptical we’ll ever see mask mandates.

We won't have a choice to shut things down if we have no more hospitals beds. I was just going to comment on those council meetings. There are too many anti mask people out there. A mask mandate isn't going to work. I think we have already proven that in the 5 short days Oklahoma City has had it in place for restaurant and bars. Many people still reporting people not wearing mask. Those council meetings unfortunately proved people won't wear mask. I guess they would rather be out of jobs? I don't know but what i do know is when people no longer can get into a hospital there is going to be major issues.

[dankrutka]

Wasn’t the assumption that it would get worse again in the fall based on the assumption that it would back off some during the summer. Which it hasn’t. Just one more thing about this damn virus that we just don’t know.

No, this was not an assumption by experts. It was a proposed hypothesis from some, but most experts I paid attention to said they did not think the virus would be seasonal.

Taking a hypothesis by some and changing it into an assumption by all is really dangerous because it undermines the hard work experts have been doing to inform the public.

[dankrutka]

Zero facts or evidence support this.

It's is so disappointing when a poster offers an opinion—in this case a plausible one—and someone else comes in and shoots it down as lacking "evidence" and provides... [wait for it]... zero evidence or explanation to support their stance.

Of course, there is a lot of evidence that COVID-19 spreads much more indoors (a recent study suggests 20 times more inside than outside) and if more people are spending time inside that it's possible that could result in more spread. Of course, this depends also on how much intermixing, mask wearing, and other factors there is...

A side point on discourse is that C_M_25 actually offered a worthwhile contribution to this board with their post while soonerguru offered nothing of substance.

[Bunty]

Trump rally kicking in.

But OKC has more cases than Tulsa. What's kicking in for OKC?

[chuck5815]

He was just making a drive-by troll post. If Cuomo did anything wrong it was waiting too long to take action. Everything since has been effective and it is laughable that the troller thinks Oklahoma has done better.

Oh, you would trade Oklahoma’s death rate for New York’s?

Very interesting.

[Pete]

But OKC has more cases than Tulsa. What's kicking in for OKC?

OKC now has reported 3,022 cases and Tulsa 2,980.

But OKC has a population of 649,000 to Tulsa's 400,000.

That means that per capita Tulsa's infection rate is fully 60% worse. And they have also been adding more cases than OKC in the last week.

https://looker-dashboards.ok.gov/embed/dashboards/79

[burlap]

It's is so disappointing when a poster offers an opinion—in this case a plausible one—and someone else comes in and shoots it down as lacking "evidence" and provides... [wait for it]... zero evidence or explanation to support their stance.

The claim, if I read right, was that heat and cold will "drive people inside". The counter claim was "no evidence". If there is "no evidence", it seems far fetched to expect written, documented evidence.

If the claim is "it will make people go indoors, therefore, due to it spreading easier indoors, it will cause cases to jump" then I don't know how you expect evidence for that as we haven't had a summer with covid...

Also, it isn't the responsibility of the counter claimant in that instance to have to be the bearer of affirmation. The original claim should be supported or not made as an assumption.

[Pete]

Also:

Tulsa County: 4,365 positive cases on 651,552 population
OK County: 3,819 cases on 797,434 population

That's 40% more per capita for Tulsa County.

[jdizzle]

But OKC has more cases than Tulsa. What's kicking in for OKC?

Is this a serious question?

[soonerguru]

We won't have a choice to shut things down if we have no more hospitals beds. I was just going to comment on those council meetings. There are too many anti mask people out there. A mask mandate isn't going to work. I think we have already proven that in the 5 short days Oklahoma City has had it in place for restaurant and bars. Many people still reporting people not wearing mask. Those council meetings unfortunately proved people won't wear mask. I guess they would rather be out of jobs? I don't know but what i do know is when people no longer can get into a hospital there is going to be major issues.

Okies are freaking hard headed but they aren’t that different than people elsewhere. I would propose a $400 fine to start, the same penalty you receive for simple marijuana possession. Most would follow it, and certainly a ton more that are now.

To your point, EVEN BRAUM’s employees were suddenly masked now that we have a law in OKC, so I disagree entirely with your premise. Even if we only got 80% compliance, that would be much more effective than what we are doing now.

[Snowman]

It seems odd the reports still seem centered around total cases, verses going to something with more focus on the estimate for active cases